Trump takes the 5th

#377
#377
whodeycin85 said:
I was just asking...because if it's not societal pressure then the argument is about science. How the body/brain works hasn't changed...how we interpret it has...meaning how society has influenced that interpretation. To societal pressure can change how medicine, especially psychology views sexual orientation....given that 2 men cannot create a life goes against nature and the need to create life.
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Infertile couples then go against nature and should be condemned. Whereas I guess a transgendered couple where the male carries the child as the husband should not.
 
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#379
ClearwaterVol said:
Infertile couples then go against nature and should be condemned. Whereas I guess a transgendered couple where the male carries the child as the husband should not.
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Where did I say that? One would argue if a couple cant reproduce nature is dropping the genetic line...no male can carry a child..its not possible naturally....now with medical advancement they are trying and failing....sorry I hurt your feels sport
 
#380
#380
C-south said:
Sure they do. They just chose to go the politically correct route and diagnose them with other mental illnesses instead of calling it what it is.
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Okay. So with no facts, no evidence you come boldly forward to let us know what medical professionals actually think. Facts be damned... full speed ahead.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
Okay. So with no facts, no evidence you come boldly forward to let us know what medical professionals actually think. Facts be damned... full speed ahead.
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What made it change? It wasn’t science. Same reason we don’t use terms like “mentally retarded” anymore even though the condition still exists. Fact is over 70% are diagnosed with a another mental disorder instead of just calling it what it is. How many attempt or contemplate suicide? Hope you got your monkeypox vaccine.
 
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n_huffhines said:
It's not certain at all.

The law is not sacred. Human beings are.

Who cares about non English speaking children? They learn it in less than 2 years from cartoons.

Not sure what any of this has to do with inflation.
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Yes they will leach off the system, they come here with nothing in their pockets, no health insurance, no housing. The government has to spend more and more to take care of the hordes of poor coming here. We don't need more poor people.
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
You're a piece of work. You are confronted with evidence that it is not a mental disorder and then try to boot strap other disorders into "proving" gayness is a mental disorder.

LGB people 'more likely to have mental health issues'

Interesting article. Based on that article there is a correlation between being straight and being fatso. Are you a fatty?
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Honestly, I can see that. A higher percentage of gay/trans people would have more mental stress and depression which would lead to higher rates of anorexia. Also, gay men attribute to the highest percentage of HIV rates along with IV drug users (look up the numbers from the CDC if you don't believe me). People with HIV generally lose weight. I would expect the HIV numbers to come down over time with new drugs that are out to fight it and prevent it, so I guess they can start getting fatter in that community. Trans have a very high rate of suicide btw. A lot going on in their craniums that isn't pleasant it would seem.
 
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whodeycin85 said:
I was just asking...because if it's not societal pressure then the argument is about science. How the body/brain works hasn't changed...how we interpret it has...meaning how society has influenced that interpretation. To societal pressure can change how medicine, especially psychology views sexual orientation....given that 2 men cannot create a life goes against nature and the need to create life.
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How does it go against nature? Homosexuality is very common nature.

But scientific advancement is a form of societal pressure. As scientific consensus changes, scientists are required to adapt or be left on an island.
 
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norrislakevol said:
Yes they will leach off the system, they come here with nothing in their pockets, no health insurance, no housing. The government has to spend more and more to take care of the hordes of poor coming here. We don't need more poor people.
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You're not talking about inflation at all anymore.

Believe it or not, many illegals come here alone for seasonal work with fake SSN's and they pay into SS and Medicare and they never collect. They also pay property takes when they rent apartments, trailers, and homes. This is also the case for visa workers.

Some immigrants become drains on the system and some are net benefits to the system, just like native born people. We need to design a system that allows for more legal flow of labor so that we can better control it so that our government budgets benefit. But improving it means that neither side can use it to their political advantage. Politicians love that it's a broken mess because they can just use it to hold you hostage every election cycle. Smart government can solve all of this. Like I said, Trump was just plugging a few leaks with his fingers and promising you he was gonna fix stuff. In this regard, it's as if he were never President. Well done, 45.
 
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#387
n_huffhines said:
You're not talking about inflation at all anymore.

Believe it or not, many illegals come here alone for seasonal work with fake SSN's and they pay into SS and Medicare and they never collect. They also pay property takes when they rent apartments, trailers, and homes. This is also the case for visa workers.

Some immigrants become drains on the system and some are net benefits to the system, just like native born people. We need to design a system that allows for more legal flow of labor so that we can better control it so that our government budgets benefit. But improving it means that neither side can use it to their political advantage. Politicians love that it's a broken mess because they can just use it to hold you hostage every election cycle. Smart government can solve all of this. Like I said, Trump was just plugging a few leaks with his fingers and promising you he was gonna fix stuff. In this regard, it's as if he were never President. Well done, 45.
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We can agree on the bolded part I suppose.
 
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n_huffhines said:
Look at it like this....we had an immigration mess and then spent 5 years rallying and fighting immigration and now we have inflation and an immigration mess.
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And Joe has done nothing. One look at the border tells you he is a complete disaster. Say what you will about Trump, but damn, he would have never let it get this bad.
 
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#390
n_huffhines said:
We've got multiple people in here crediting the man for listening to his lawyers. That's how low expectations are for Trump...
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You’re not wrong, but I’m still impressed. Didn’t think he had the level of self control required to plead the fifth.
 
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