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#101
#101
DinkinFlicka said:
Cutting off federal funding would force costs to go up, making it unaffordable to many of those who need it.

That's just fabulous that you don't believe it's an infringement on women's rights. Heard you the first time. Fact is, an attack on abortion is an attack on a service only available to women. Why men even have a say in this, I'll never have a clue, but we shouldn't.
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If it were your son or daughter being aborted would you still feel the same way?
 
#102
#102
DinkinFlicka said:
Going back to the start of this mess, why would Cain want to cut it off?
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because PP is a private organization that should be able to stand on it's own.

hell, the USPS (a Constitutionally mandated organization) doesn't receive a dime of taxpayer money, they are funded solely by the sale of their products and services.
 
#103
#103
droski said:
so say it goes up to $400. these same people who can afford flat screens can't put $400 on their credit card?

how about staff?

bs. he's not lucky. he's smart. it's absurdly easy to not get someone pregnant.
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You're targeting a pretty small demographic there. Most abortions are done by low-income individuals.

how much of a staff pay cut would it take to make it as affordable as it is now?
 
#104
#104
DinkinFlicka said:
You're targeting a pretty small demographic there. Most abortions are done by low-income individuals.

how much of a staff pay cut would it take to make it as affordable as it is now?
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low income individuals in this country have flat screens and ps3 players than can surely afford an abortion.

not really my problem.
 
#107
#107
MG1968 said:
because PP is a private organization that should be able to stand on it's own.

hell, the USPS (a Constitutionally mandated organization) doesn't receive a dime of taxpayer money, they are funded solely by the sale of their products and services.
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So PP is the only gov't funded private organization that needs to be cut off? Come on, now.
 
#113
#113
DinkinFlicka said:
It's a conviction move. I have a feeling Cain could care less about cutting off all the private orgs in this country, or else he would have targeted more of them.
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i'm sure there are some conservative ones that he wouldn't like being cut. not sure what that has to do with the debate though. good ideas don't always come from good motives.
 
#114
#114
droski said:
i have friends who don't want tvs either. rarely is it because of money reasons. generally they are elitist douchebags.
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I shouldn't have used "want" i guess, as it didn't register. Crap neighborhood. Low income. TV's, video games, cable weren't high priorities. Food and utilities were.
 
#115
#115
the left likes to point to liquor stores, fast food joints and cigarette outlets being located in poor neighborhoods as evidence of a kind of commercial conspiracy to keep black people addicted and malnourished. Not to mention the problems with inner-city schools.

What is wrong with Herman Cain having the opinion that PP being located in these same neighborhoods is just as detrimental?
 
#116
#116
droski said:
i have friends who don't want tvs either. rarely is it because of money reasons. generally they are elitist douchebags.
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Nice of you to say that about your friends, LOL. I know what you mean. Some people can't wait to tell you that they don't own a TV. I think "not owning a TV" is in that book Stuff White People Like
 
#118
#118
DinkinFlicka said:
I shouldn't have used "want" i guess, as it didn't register. Crap neighborhood. Low income. TV's, video games, cable weren't high priorities. Food and utilities were.
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ok and? let planned parenthood have an installment program. are you seriously arguing that people are going to start having more children on a level that is noticable because the cost of abortions go up 20%?
 
#119
#119
MG1968 said:
the left likes to point to liquor stores, fast food joints and cigarette outlets being located in poor neighborhoods as evidence of a kind of commercial conspiracy to keep black people addicted and malnourished. Not to mention the problems with inner-city schools.

What is wrong with Herman Cain having the opinion that PP being located in these same neighborhoods is just as detrimental?
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Nah, the left doesn't think that. Serial bloggers who watched "Boyz In Da Hood" like to think that. You forgot pawn shops stocked with tons of guns next to the liquor stores, btw.

Because Herman Cain is calling an ethnicity extinguishing themselves a genocide.
 
#120
#120
DinkinFlicka said:
About men having a say in policy? Absolutely.

About whether or not to abort my child? It all revolves around circumstance.
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You don't think a man should have any say in abortion policy, yet if it were your child being aborted, it would be your business.
 
#121
#121
droski said:
ok and? let planned parenthood have an installment program. are you seriously arguing that people are going to start having more children on a level that is noticable because the cost of abortions go up 20%?
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I'm simply arguing that it's BS for a medical service for women is losing its funding because abortion is evil genocide.
 
#122
#122
Gramps said:
You don't think a man should have any say in abortion policy, yet if it were your child being aborted, it would be your business.
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Where did I say that? I would have a say, but the final decision would be hers. I guess my level of "say" would depend on fiscal matters, living situations etc...
 
#123
#123
DinkinFlicka said:
I'm simply arguing that it's BS for a medical service for women is losing its funding because abortion is evil genocide.
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why? if it effected men and women equally then it would be ok? you can't understand why people would object to taxpayer money going to abortions?
 
#124
#124
DinkinFlicka said:
Nah, the left doesn't think that. Serial bloggers who watched "Boyz In Da Hood" like to think that. You forgot pawn shops stocked with tons of guns next to the liquor stores, btw.

Because Herman Cain is calling an ethnicity extinguishing themselves a genocide.
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actually, the left thinks exactly that. Haven't you seen all the news stories about fast food chains and child obesity, those always mention the prevalence of fast food restaurants over produce markets in poor neighborhoods.
 
#125
#125
droski said:
why? if it effected men and women equally then it would be ok? you can't understand why people would object to taxpayer money going to abortions?
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Wouldn't be as bad. It would be a fairer form of bullsh*t. Everybody would be getting screwed in the process.

I really can't. I consider it a necessary service in certain societies.
 
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