TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

What a moron. You right wingers think that every trumped up scandal the right wing media tries to create is big and important national news. It's not. It's all you guys are inundated with because it's all the news you see. Their methods are obviously but sadly very effective.

There there little loony liberal. Don't get your short pink panties all bunched up.

 

[Mick]

Willful ignorance is not knowing who Lois Lerner is (IRS scandal) or Fast and Furious (executive privilege+Holder's Contempt of Congress) and having the ability to obtain that information easily and not choosing to find it.

Seeking the truth should include seeking truth in all areas not in just those that tickle your particular political fancy and ignoring those that run counter.

I guess you know everything. Can you change out a motor in your vehicle and crochet the Power T in a sweater? The information is there. Not being able to do such things just makes you ignorant. Just because someone don't know what you are talking about when you change the subject does not make it willful ignorance. Willful ignorance is the example I presented to your statement.

 

[37L1]

I guess you know everything. Can you change out a motor in your vehicle and crochet the Power T in a sweater? The information is there. Not being able to do such things just makes you ignorant. Just because someone don't know what you are talking about when you change the subject does not make it willful ignorance. Willful ignorance is the example I presented to your statement.

Non sequitur. You need to look it up.

 

[luthervol]

Fast and Furious/IRS scandal of which you have posted you know nothing about. That's a choice you have made.

They are some Obama Administration examples of impeding the exposure of the truth. Yet you are apoplectic about Bannon's "testimony"?

You are by definition willfully ignorant. Continue on.

Go get your daily does of right wing propaganda. The very definition of "willfully ignorant" I use is anyone who gets there news exclusively from right wing sources and then assumes they are well informed.

Carry on. Go outside and play now. Go back to your mom's basement. (pick your favorite juvenile and condesending way to end a post.

 

[lawgator1]

This, dear readers, is what fear looks like.

Fear the whole premise of the investigation might be untrue.

Fear of what's in the memo.

Fear of that he'll be destined to seven years of Trump before it's all said and done.

It's okay, LG. I think you'll survive. Just get a snuggy blanky and hide underneath. Everything will be okay.

Only the most partisan and most gullible would think this Nunes ploy #2 means anything.

I'm not the slightest bit worried. This will not save Bone Spur. Sorry

 

[Mick]

Non sequitur. You need to look it up.

I will give you a better example: I don't believe in god but god comes to me and gives me the universal truth and I dismiss it because I don't believe in god.

 

[hog88]

It is by definition. Call it what you will. Results are the same - hiding the truth (even the repubs. were furious)

Hiding the truth? have you ever watched a congressional hearing?

Anyway I read last night that it was actually Muller that didn’t want Bannon to answer certain questions at the hearing and Trump used EP to accommodate. When I get back to a desktop I’ll see if I can find the article.

 

[37L1]

Go get your daily does of right wing propaganda. The very definition of "willfully ignorant" I use is anyone who gets there news exclusively from right wing sources and then assumes they are well informed.

Carry on. Go outside and play now. Go back to your mom's basement. (pick your favorite juvenile and condesending way to end a post.

What's the matter luther? Scared to find out about the truth you hold so dear because it doen't fit your preconceived political notions? Go ahead go look and see, you'll live.

 

[37L1]

I will give you a better example: I don't believe in god but god comes to me and gives me the universal truth and I dismiss it because I don't believe in god.

You are really bad at this, aren't you.

 

[hog88]

I guess you know everything. Can you change out a motor in your vehicle and crochet the Power T in a sweater? The information is there. Not being able to do such things just makes you ignorant. Just because someone don't know what you are talking about when you change the subject does not make it willful ignorance. Willful ignorance is the example I presented to your statement.

Fast/Furious and the IRS scandal were two huge scandals during Obama’s time. The only way a person can claim to never have heard of them is to be willfully ignorant or wasn’t paying attention to ANY news source.

Or of course he could be 12.

 

[Carl Pickens]

Go get your daily does of right wing propaganda. The very definition of "willfully ignorant" I use is anyone who gets there news exclusively from right wing sources and then assumes they are well informed.

Carry on. Go outside and play now. Go back to your mom's basement. (pick your favorite juvenile and condesending way to end a post.

As if you don't do the same .....or are you joking again

 

[Carl Pickens]

Fast/Furious and the IRS scandal were two huge scandals during Obama’s time. The only way a person can claim to never have heard of them is to be willfully ignorant or wasn’t paying attention to ANY news source.

Or of course he could be 12.

We only watches CNN

 

[hog88]

We only watches CNN

Even CNN covered them.

 

[Mick]

You are really bad at this, aren't you.

When you use preconceived beliefs to dismiss facts is willful ignorance.

It's a witch hunt.
fact they had a meeting with russians comes to light.
It's a witch hunt.

 

[luthervol]

What's the matter luther? Scared to find out about the truth you hold so dear because it doen't fit your preconceived political notions? Go ahead go look and see, you'll live.

I'm guessing you're one of those who believe the national dept grew at a lower rate under Reagan and the Bushes than under Clinton and Obama. I'm guessing you're one of those that believe the federal government grew less under Reagan and the Bushes than under Clinton and Obama. Talk about your willful ignorance.

 

[AirVol]

I'm guessing you're one of those who believe the national dept grew at a lower rate under Reagan and the Bushes than under Clinton and Obama. I'm guessing you're one of those that believe the federal government grew less under Reagan and the Bushes than under Clinton and Obama. Talk about your willful ignorance.

Luther, you seem to follow politics closely. But I find it hard to believe that you know nothing about Holder/Obama’s Fast and Furious gun running escapade in Mexico.

 

[luthervol]

Fast/Furious and the IRS scandal were two huge scandals during Obama’s time. The only way a person can claim to never have heard of them is to be willfully ignorant or wasn’t paying attention to ANY news source.

Or of course he could be 12.

They were not huge scandals, much to the despair of Fox and Rush and the like. I'm assuming they must have tried their best to make them a huge scandal.

 

[37L1]

I'm guessing you're one of those who believe the national dept grew at a lower rate under Reagan and the Bushes than under Clinton and Obama. I'm guessing you're one of those that believe the federal government grew less under Reagan and the Bushes than under Clinton and Obama. Talk about your willful ignorance.

You're talking percentages. You don't want to be talking dollars, do you?

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

-Mark Twain

 

[Vol0725]

Only the most partisan and most gullible would think this Nunes ploy #2 means anything.

I'm not the slightest bit worried. This will not save Bone Spur. Sorry

Let’s start with the foundation; it took 4 Months to get the documents after delayed stonewalling, and Rosenstein was allegedly very resistant...who by the way, he’s one of only a very few people that can swear on and sign off on the FISA warrant applications, and there were ZERO democrats who voted to have these realeased...humm, why?

That said...

So you are saying Nunes is lying, slanting a false narrative, taking an biased perspective from what all the documts said? Basically he and his teams disertation summary of the FISA abuse memo is Trump’d up B.S. and his intent is to get egg on his face after all the documents are thoroughly read and vetted as well?

Just trying to better understand the foundation of your logic.

 

[1972 Grad]

:lolabove::lolabove::lolabove:

You’re either trolling or just started paying attention if you don’t know who Lerner is or what Fast and furious is.

Another possibility is that CNN and MSNBC never covered either.

 

[luthervol]

Luther, you seem to follow politics closely. But I find it hard to believe that you know nothing about Holder/Obama’s Fast and Furious gun running escapade in Mexico.

I honestly don't know (or maybe I just don't remember) any thing about it.

The news sources I use on pretty much a daily basis (and have for decades): AJC, Tennessean (mainly for sports) CNN, and local news stations in Atlanta. I almost never watch Fox and never listen to any kind of right wing radio.

I see nothing on social media. (except what's on my wife's and daughters' face book pages.)

 

[37L1]

They were not huge scandals, much to the despair of Fox and Rush and the like. I'm assuming they must have tried their best to make them a huge scandal.

How do you know? You know nothing about them do you?

Ask the families of those who had relatives killed by Fast and Furious or those harmed by the IRS, they might just have a different opinion then you do and theirs is informed.

 

[luthervol]

You're talking percentages. You don't want to be talking dollars, do you?

Figures don't lie, but liars figure.

-Mark Twain

It's the percentages that lead to the dollars. You understand economics well enough to know that I trust.

Reagan was the worst by many metrics (but many are just willfully ignorant)

 

[1972 Grad]

Only the most partisan and most gullible would think this Nunes ploy #2 means anything.

I'm not the slightest bit worried. This will not save Bone Spur. Sorry

yghn!

 

[37L1]

I honestly don't know (or maybe I just don't remember) any thing about it.

The news sources I use on pretty much a daily basis (and have for decades): AJC, Tennessean (mainly for sports) CNN, and local news stations in Atlanta. I almost never watch Fox and never listen to any kind of right wing radio.

I see nothing on social media. (except what's on my wife's and daughters' face book pages.)

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Operation Fast and Furious Fast Facts - CNN