TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

[FLVOL_79]

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[Grand Vol]

GV you're a smart guy. You avoided my question. Convince me why it took Trump 4 months to fire Comey for something that occurred a year earlier.

Perhaps the truth, or as a minimum all the known facts, didn't come out until the time right before he was fired. Until that point, it appeared Comey was a fairly pristine individual in the case and it appeared the decision to clear Hillary came from higher than him. If that was the case and it later came up he had a far larger part than he let on, it could give the President (any of them) just cause to terminate for lack of confidence.

Take the Russia investigation out of the equation for just a brief moment in time and consider that point of view.

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Perhaps the truth, or as a minimum all the known facts, didn't come out until the time right before he was fired. Until that point, it appeared Comey was a fairly pristine individual in the case and it appeared the decision to clear Hillary came from higher than him. If that was the case and it later came up he had a far larger part than he let on, it could give the President (any of them) just cause to terminate for lack of confidence.

Take the Russia investigation out of the equation for just a brief moment in time and consider that point of view.

No. Comey was explicitly empowered by the Department of Justice prior to his July, 2016 pronouncement that Clinton would not be charged.

"On July 1, 2016, the New York Times reported in the name of a "Justice Department official" that Attorney General Loretta Lynch will accept "whatever recommendation career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director make about whether to bring charges related to Hillary Clinton's personal email server."


On July 5, 2016, former FBI Director Comey announced in a statement he read to press and television reporters at FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, that the FBI had completed its investigation and was referring it to the State Department with the recommendation "that no charges are appropriate in this case."

Hillary Clinton email controversy - Wikipedia

Even high-ranking White House officials were caught flat-footed by the firing. Press secretary Sean Spicer insisted on May 9 that “no one from the White House” was involved in Rosenstein’s letter. “That was a DOJ decision.” But by the next day, Spicer’s deputy Sarah Huckabee Sanders was at the White House podium describing Trump’s meeting with Rosenstein and Sessions in which the President asked for the letter

James Comey: Why Did Trump Fire Comey? | Time

Everything that occurred gives the appearance that:

1. Comey was given power to make a decision on Clinton.
2. He chose not to prosecute her.
3. Trump campaigned on the platform of "lock her up" so OBVIOUSLY Comeys SINGLE HANDED decision NOT to prosecute her would not sit well with him.
4. Yet, Trump didn't fire or replace him when he became President. Why?
5. Probably because egomaniac Comey inserted himself into the election process by publicly reopening the Clinton case just days before the election.
6. Trump loved this. Why? It largely helped him win.
7. As President, though, Trump discovers Comey won't grant his demanded "loyalty" to him.
8. Trump got livid over Comey’s statements confirming the Russia investigation and knocking down the President’s tweeted claim that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower.
9. Trump wanted to fire Comey by May, 2017.
10. Trump directed Sessions and Rosenstein to come up with something... ANYTHING to legitimize his firing.

This is why Trump will face the music on Obstruction charges. He did not fire Comey for the Clinton email scandal. This is obvious to a second grader.

 

[Vol0725]

Comey lied. He's full-o-**** with his boy scout 'holier than thou' attitude....let's get real.

Can you say, exoneration before investigation? Like Loretta Lynch didn't know Hillary would be exonerated, lol...check the Strozk-Page texts.

That's why Rosenstein recommended 'in part' Comey's firing.

Check this...

Senator Ratcliff TX catches Comey lie | User Clip | C-SPAN.org

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Comey lied. He's full-o-**** with his boy scout 'holier than thou' attitude....let's get real.

Can you say, exoneration before investigation? Like Loretta Lynch didn't know Hillary would be exonerated, lol...check the Strozk-Page texts.

That's why Rosenstein recommended 'in part' Comey's firing.

Check this...

Senator Ratcliff TX catches Comey lie | User Clip | C-SPAN.org

Good Lord, man. You're liked a spinning top.

Your post amounts to zero.

 

[AirVol]

Good Lord, man. You're liked a spinning top.

Your post amounts to zero.

Irony

 

[OuterBanksVol]

Irony

Dude you love to snipe, yet you offer... nothing. Hmmm.

 

[Vol0725]

No. Comey was explicitly empowered by the Department of Justice prior to his July, 2016 pronouncement that Clinton would not be charged.

"On July 1, 2016, the New York Times reported in the name of a "Justice Department official" that Attorney General Loretta Lynch will accept "whatever recommendation career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director make about whether to bring charges related to Hillary Clinton's personal email server."


On July 5, 2016, former FBI Director Comey announced in a statement he read to press and television reporters at FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, that the FBI had completed its investigation and was referring it to the State Department with the recommendation "that no charges are appropriate in this case."

Hillary Clinton email controversy - Wikipedia

Even high-ranking White House officials were caught flat-footed by the firing. Press secretary Sean Spicer insisted on May 9 that “no one from the White House” was involved in Rosenstein’s letter. “That was a DOJ decision.” But by the next day, Spicer’s deputy Sarah Huckabee Sanders was at the White House podium describing Trump’s meeting with Rosenstein and Sessions in which the President asked for the letter

James Comey: Why Did Trump Fire Comey? | Time

Everything that occurred gives the appearance that:

1. Comey was given power to make a decision on Clinton.
2. He chose not to prosecute her.
3. Trump campaigned on the platform of "lock her up" so OBVIOUSLY Comeys SINGLE HANDED decision NOT to prosecute her would not sit well with him.
4. Yet, Trump didn't fire or replace him when he became President. Why?
5. Probably because egomaniac Comey inserted himself into the election process by publicly reopening the Clinton case just days before the election.
6. Trump loved this. Why? It largely helped him win.
7. As President, though, Trump discovers Comey won't grant his demanded "loyalty" to him.
8. Trump got livid over Comey’s statements confirming the Russia investigation and knocking down the President’s tweeted claim that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower.
9. Trump wanted to fire Comey by May, 2017.
10. Trump directed Sessions and Rosenstein to come up with something... ANYTHING to legitimize his firing.

This is why Trump will face the music on Obstruction charges. He did not fire Comey for the Clinton email scandal. This is obvious to a second grader.

In a three-page letter, Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein wrote that he "cannot defend the Director's handling of the conclusion of the investigation of Secretary Clinton's emails, and I do not understand his refusal to accept the nearly universal judgment that he was mistaken."

Read the full letter below:

A closer look at Deputy Atty. Gen. Rod Rosenstein's letter on Comey's firing

Furthermore, here's what Deputy AG Rod Rosenstein told Congress about James Comey’s firing:

What Rod Rosenstein told Congress about James Comey’s firing

 

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[Mick]

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When B says something it must be true. lol

 

[Vol0725]

I know this is totally whacky, but what if? That would be nuts if it was 'inferred'

 

[Vol0725]

Good Lord, man. You're liked a spinning top.

Your post amounts to zero.

 

[AirVol]

Dude you love to snipe, yet you offer... nothing. Hmmm.

Talking to you is like talking to a fence post. There’s no point. Hmmm

 

[LouderVol]

No. Comey was explicitly empowered by the Department of Justice prior to his July, 2016 pronouncement that Clinton would not be charged.

"On July 1, 2016, the New York Times reported in the name of a "Justice Department official" that Attorney General Loretta Lynch will accept "whatever recommendation career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director make about whether to bring charges related to Hillary Clinton's personal email server."


On July 5, 2016, former FBI Director Comey announced in a statement he read to press and television reporters at FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, that the FBI had completed its investigation and was referring it to the State Department with the recommendation "that no charges are appropriate in this case."

Hillary Clinton email controversy - Wikipedia

Even high-ranking White House officials were caught flat-footed by the firing. Press secretary Sean Spicer insisted on May 9 that “no one from the White House” was involved in Rosenstein’s letter. “That was a DOJ decision.” But by the next day, Spicer’s deputy Sarah Huckabee Sanders was at the White House podium describing Trump’s meeting with Rosenstein and Sessions in which the President asked for the letter

James Comey: Why Did Trump Fire Comey? | Time

Everything that occurred gives the appearance that:

1. Comey was given power to make a decision on Clinton.
2. He chose not to prosecute her.
3. Trump campaigned on the platform of "lock her up" so OBVIOUSLY Comeys SINGLE HANDED decision NOT to prosecute her would not sit well with him.
4. Yet, Trump didn't fire or replace him when he became President. Why?
5. Probably because egomaniac Comey inserted himself into the election process by publicly reopening the Clinton case just days before the election.
6. Trump loved this. Why? It largely helped him win.
7. As President, though, Trump discovers Comey won't grant his demanded "loyalty" to him.
8. Trump got livid over Comey’s statements confirming the Russia investigation and knocking down the President’s tweeted claim that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower.
9. Trump wanted to fire Comey by May, 2017.
10. Trump directed Sessions and Rosenstein to come up with something... ANYTHING to legitimize his firing.

This is why Trump will face the music on Obstruction charges. He did not fire Comey for the Clinton email scandal. This is obvious to a second grader.

Loretta Lynch who had a secret meeting with the "suspects" husband right as this was going down?

 

[ajvol01]

When B says something it must be true. lol

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[FLVOL_79]

No. Comey was explicitly empowered by the Department of Justice prior to his July, 2016 pronouncement that Clinton would not be charged.

"On July 1, 2016, the New York Times reported in the name of a "Justice Department official" that Attorney General Loretta Lynch will accept "whatever recommendation career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director make about whether to bring charges related to Hillary Clinton's personal email server."


On July 5, 2016, former FBI Director Comey announced in a statement he read to press and television reporters at FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, that the FBI had completed its investigation and was referring it to the State Department with the recommendation "that no charges are appropriate in this case."

Hillary Clinton email controversy - Wikipedia

Even high-ranking White House officials were caught flat-footed by the firing. Press secretary Sean Spicer insisted on May 9 that “no one from the White House” was involved in Rosenstein’s letter. “That was a DOJ decision.” But by the next day, Spicer’s deputy Sarah Huckabee Sanders was at the White House podium describing Trump’s meeting with Rosenstein and Sessions in which the President asked for the letter

James Comey: Why Did Trump Fire Comey? | Time

Everything that occurred gives the appearance that:

1. Comey was given power to make a decision on Clinton.
2. He chose not to prosecute her.
3. Trump campaigned on the platform of "lock her up" so OBVIOUSLY Comeys SINGLE HANDED decision NOT to prosecute her would not sit well with him.
4. Yet, Trump didn't fire or replace him when he became President. Why?
5. Probably because egomaniac Comey inserted himself into the election process by publicly reopening the Clinton case just days before the election.
6. Trump loved this. Why? It largely helped him win.
7. As President, though, Trump discovers Comey won't grant his demanded "loyalty" to him.
8. Trump got livid over Comey’s statements confirming the Russia investigation and knocking down the President’s tweeted claim that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower.
9. Trump wanted to fire Comey by May, 2017.
10. Trump directed Sessions and Rosenstein to come up with something... ANYTHING to legitimize his firing.

This is why Trump will face the music on Obstruction charges. He did not fire Comey for the Clinton email scandal. This is obvious to a second grader.

Omfg. Bro. Trump won because Clinton was terrible. Clinton had the charisma of a well starched pants suit. She ran a TERRIBLE campaign. 75% of her campaign ads were attack ads. Many HRC voters knew little of what she stood for but they knew Trump bad Hillary good I like turtles Lick windows, etc. Literally no one who was voting for Clinton suddenly changed their minds to vote for Trump over her emails, Podestas emails, Russia, or any of that nonsense.

Hillary and her peoples can point to Russia and their elite Facebook meme game, or Comey's email investigation, or the fact it was the year of the monkey in China, the simple fact is the only person to blame is who she sees in a mirror. She does have a reflection right?

 

[Vol0725]

I think Mueller probe is nearing an end, and he'll report his findings in the coming months. May end with 'small hanging fruit' getting nipped, and worst case he tries to impose 'some type' obstruction of justice on Trump (which is a slippery slope). Not sure what that 'may' be..."Firing Comey, telling Comey not to investigate Flynn, those are all within the president's constitutional authority. The other place it may be going is toward collusion, but collusion is not a crime," Dershowitz said

But Dershowitz acknowledged that allegations of abuses within the FBI must be examined.

"Every civil libertarian, whether a liberal or conservative, should be concerned about abuses from within the FBI," he said.

Access Denied

 

[Mick]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr's staff has not been given access to a classified memo drafted by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, a sign of how closely House Republicans are guarding allegations of Justice Department wrongdoing over surveillance activities in the Russia investigation.

According to three sources familiar with the matter, Burr's staff requested a copy of the memo and has been denied, just as the FBI and Justice Department have also been denied reviewing a copy of the document. The memo is based on highly classified intelligence that only a select group of House and Senate lawmakers have accessed.

Senate Intelligence Committee not given access to Nunes FISA mem - KBZK.com | Continuous News | Bozeman, Montana

 

[Vol0725]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- Senate Intelligence Committee Chairman Richard Burr's staff has not been given access to a classified memo drafted by House Intelligence Committee Chairman Devin Nunes, a sign of how closely House Republicans are guarding allegations of Justice Department wrongdoing over surveillance activities in the Russia investigation.

According to three sources familiar with the matter, Burr's staff requested a copy of the memo and has been denied, just as the FBI and Justice Department have also been denied reviewing a copy of the document. The memo is based on highly classified intelligence that only a select group of House and Senate lawmakers have accessed.

Senate Intelligence Committee not given access to Nunes FISA mem - KBZK.com | Continuous News | Bozeman, Montana

There may be a reason, beyond my paygrade. However, I see no problem to show them, in the same secure setting, with appropriate security protocol...but I wouldn't send a copy anywhere, for privacy matters at this time.

 

[ajvol01]

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[Grand Vol]

No. Comey was explicitly empowered by the Department of Justice prior to his July, 2016 pronouncement that Clinton would not be charged.

"On July 1, 2016, the New York Times reported in the name of a "Justice Department official" that Attorney General Loretta Lynch will accept "whatever recommendation career prosecutors and the F.B.I. director make about whether to bring charges related to Hillary Clinton's personal email server."


On July 5, 2016, former FBI Director Comey announced in a statement he read to press and television reporters at FBI headquarters in Washington, DC, that the FBI had completed its investigation and was referring it to the State Department with the recommendation "that no charges are appropriate in this case."

Hillary Clinton email controversy - Wikipedia

Even high-ranking White House officials were caught flat-footed by the firing. Press secretary Sean Spicer insisted on May 9 that “no one from the White House” was involved in Rosenstein’s letter. “That was a DOJ decision.” But by the next day, Spicer’s deputy Sarah Huckabee Sanders was at the White House podium describing Trump’s meeting with Rosenstein and Sessions in which the President asked for the letter

James Comey: Why Did Trump Fire Comey? | Time

Everything that occurred gives the appearance that:

1. Comey was given power to make a decision on Clinton.
2. He chose not to prosecute her.
3. Trump campaigned on the platform of "lock her up" so OBVIOUSLY Comeys SINGLE HANDED decision NOT to prosecute her would not sit well with him.
4. Yet, Trump didn't fire or replace him when he became President. Why?
5. Probably because egomaniac Comey inserted himself into the election process by publicly reopening the Clinton case just days before the election.
6. Trump loved this. Why? It largely helped him win.
7. As President, though, Trump discovers Comey won't grant his demanded "loyalty" to him.
8. Trump got livid over Comey’s statements confirming the Russia investigation and knocking down the President’s tweeted claim that Obama had wiretapped Trump Tower.
9. Trump wanted to fire Comey by May, 2017.
10. Trump directed Sessions and Rosenstein to come up with something... ANYTHING to legitimize his firing.

This is why Trump will face the music on Obstruction charges. He did not fire Comey for the Clinton email scandal. This is obvious to a second grader.

I bet you think you're in a "GOTCHA!" moment with me, but your post is nothing by your meandering thoughts and crazy assumptions as well.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I think Mueller probe is nearing an end, and he'll report his findings in the coming months. May end with 'small hanging fruit' getting nipped, and worst case he tries to impose 'some type' obstruction of justice on Trump (which is a slippery slope). Not sure what that 'may' be..."Firing Comey, telling Comey not to investigate Flynn, those are all within the president's constitutional authority. The other place it may be going is toward collusion, but collusion is not a crime," Dershowitz said

But Dershowitz acknowledged that allegations of abuses within the FBI must be examined.

"Every civil libertarian, whether a liberal or conservative, should be concerned about abuses from within the FBI," he said.

Access Denied

Texting a joke to your girlfriend is not a crime (or an abuse) either. The faux outrage being expressed by Republicans (specifically Gowdy and Johnson) on Fox News because FBI Agent Peter Strzok sent a text message to Lisa Page about a "secret society" meeting is a pathetically transparent attempt to undermine the Mueller probe and shamefully taint the FBI. Republicans are being very careful not to give any context to the reference to this so-called "secret society" because it was obviously meant to be a joke between two people who know each other on a very personal level. Strzok was taken off the Mueller investigation last summer and had a menial role in it to begin with. This is grasping for straws by Republicans... and nothing short of propaganda by Fox News.

 

[ajvol01]

Trump ‘looking forward’ to under-oath meeting with Mueller

 

[FLVOL_79]

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I've been in government for almost 20 years..you never use email, phones (Recorded lines), or cell phones to do anything stupid.

Thats why I bring my personal laptop to work :thumbsup:

 

[FLVOL_79]

Texting a joke to your girlfriend is not a crime (or an abuse) either. The faux outrage being expressed by Republicans (specifically Gowdy and Johnson) on Fox News because FBI Agent Peter Strzok sent a text message to Lisa Page about a "secret society" meeting is a pathetically transparent attempt to undermine the Mueller probe and shamefully taint the FBI. Republicans are being very careful not to give any context to the reference to this so-called "secret society" because it was obviously meant to be a joke between two people who know each other on a very personal level. Strzok was taken off the Mueller investigation last summer and had a menial role in it to begin with. This is grasping for straws by Republicans... and nothing short of propaganda by Fox News.

Doing it on gubmint issued phones is plain dumb.


And its mistress..that homie is still married.