TrumpPutingate III: the beginning of the end

[luthervol]

4 years, Starr started in 1994 and released his final report in 1998. It was actually 2 separate investigations he did try to step down in 1997 after wrapping up convictions in the Whitewater cases. He was asked by the AG to stay on to look into the Paula Jones matter.

I was giving it from '92 to '99. But true, Starr only headed the investigation for 4 and a half years.

The cloud was allowed to cast its shadow on the Clinton administration for 7 years.

Just as the Russian/collusion albatross was hung on Trump prior to the official beginning of the Mueller investigation, which didn't begin until May of '17.

 

[luthervol]

More pertinent than 15 convictions involving real crimes and not just lying to the FBI? Muller has been on the job almost a year, in a little over a year Starr had the Gov of Arkansas facing trial. Muller has some catching up to do.

I have full confidence.

 

[Carl Pickens]

I have full confidence.

You'll end up with a nervous breakdown when you finally realize Trump won't be charged...... once again .... just like election night.... you'll cry and pee

 

[hog88]

I was giving it from '92 to '99. But true, Starr only headed the investigation for 4 and a half years.

The cloud was allowed to cast its shadow on the Clinton administration for 7 years.

Just as the Russian/collusion albatross was hung on Trump prior to the official beginning of the Mueller investigation, which didn't begin until May of '17.

The Whitewater part of the investigation was legit, hence the 15 convictions including the Govenor and an Assistant to the Attorney General. The first special counsel that was appointed by Reno was fired by a panel of judges because they questioned his independence.

Now, I'll grant you the subsequent investigation into the Paula Jones matter that led to Lewinsky was bunk and shouldn't have happened. But Reno shouldn't have asked Starr (who was stepping down and closing shop) to look into it in the hopes he would clear Clinton quickly.

 

[luthervol]

The Whitewater part of the investigation was legit, hence the 15 convictions including the Govenor and an Assistant to the Attorney General. The first special counsel that was appointed by Reno was fired by a panel of judges because they questioned his independence.

Now, I'll grant you the subsequent investigation into the Paula Jones matter that led to Lewinsky was bunk and shouldn't have happened. But Reno shouldn't have asked Starr (who was stepping down and closing shop) to look into it in the hopes he would clear Clinton quickly.

and the Whitewater investigation went on for years. The conclusion would have to be that a legitimate investigation can take years. Were the Clintons ever charged with any crimes relating to Whitewater?

 

[Squints]

I have full confidence.

My name is luthervol. People call me luthervol.

 

[hog88]

and the Whitewater investigation went on for years. The conclusion would have to be that a legitimate investigation can take years. Were the Clintons ever charged with any crimes relating to Whitewater?

The first trials started a little over a year after Starr was appointed. Remember the first SC filed a report of nothing to see here within 7-8 months of being appointed. After he was relieved Starr took over and started rolling them up, his investigation was over in just a little over a year. The trials are what lasted 2-3 years. The whole Paula Jones investigation lasted about a year.

No they were not because he was POTUS.

 

[1972 Grad]

Save me the holier than thou speech.

So many on this bored gleefully cheered as Starr conducted a 7 year meandering investigation and now want to claim that one year is excessive and only being used to undermine Trump.

Unfortunately for you (them), there is no statute of limitations on hypocrisy.

Maybe we can compromise on the investigation lasting only half as long.

bored?

 

[Vol0725]

At some point, we’re going to learn the whole story (possibly). And if it turns out that the political party in power used a dossier filled with raw, unsubstantiated information to spy on its opponents, and spread propaganda, it’ll be a massive scandal.

 

[Orangedogsrule]

Thank God! You will finally be able to go back to ambulance chasing full time.

He won't...too lazy and spends all his time posting on VolNation so there'd be no money in it for him. Assume he did? You gotta work hard at being an ambulance chaser.

 

[hog88]

At some point, we’re going to learn the whole story (possibly). And if it turns out that the political party in power used a dossier filled with raw, unsubstantiated information to spy on its opponents, and spread propaganda, it’ll be a massive scandal.

I seriously doubt it.

 

[Mick]

The House Intelligence Committee decided on Thursday to release the transcript of its meeting with the man who commissioned the infamous Trump-Russia dossier.

Lawmakers used a closed meeting to vote about whether to unveil the text of hours' worth of testimony by Glenn Simpson, founder of the private intelligence firm Fusion GPS.

The testimony shows that Simpson gave the committee a road map of names, places and leads that Fusion GPS unearthed during its investigation, a source with knowledge of the proceedings said before it was released.

House Intel Panel Votes To Release Its Fusion GPS Transcript : NPR

“It gradually reached a point where it seemed like most of the people around Trump had a connection to Russian organized crime or Russia in one way or another,” Simpson said.

But one of Simpson’s most dramatic revelations was that the Kremlin used the publication of his firm’s dossier—which contains salacious and unsubstantiated allegations about Trump—as a pretext for a spate of arrests and killings, Simpson said. He also said some of those people who were purged may have been sources for the American intelligence community.

Fusion GPS: Kremlin ‘Purged’ Suspected Spies After Trump Dossier Release

EDIT ADD:

In one set of transfers the Russian Embassy in the U.S. sent $2.4 million in hundreds of payments to a home improvement company, though the company was viewed as too small to have done any work on the embassy and the funds soon were sluiced elsewhere.

The subpoena and wire transfer investigations suggest that investigators are probing all sides to see if any of the financial trails connect, but uncovering any potential financial crimes by Trump or his associates, if they exist, would take extensive digging by Mueller’s team.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/russia-investigators-money-laundering-article-1.3759077

EDIT ADD:

Special Counsel Robert Mueller, in his indictment, says that a Hamptons firm got $5.4 million in wire transfers from Cyprus over 71 payments. But building permits over the same period examined by Bloomberg show that renovations by Manafort’s Hamptons’ contractor were estimated to cost $1.2 million. That’s less than a quarter of what was ultimately sent—an apparent discrepancy that could draw scrutiny from investigators.

The Questionable Math Behind Manafort’s Extravagant Home Renovations - Bloomberg

 

[Vol0725]

 

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[Vol0725]

Rep. Jim Jordan: My Top 18 Questions on FBI, DOJ Corruption
Monday, 15 Jan 2018

As the new year launches, there are 18 top questions to be answered about Russia and the FBI.

The American people deserve to know whether or not top FBI officials put their fingers on the scales of justice. The American people deserve to know whether or not the FBI worked to protect one presidential candidate while harming another. The American people deserve to know the extent of Russian interference into our free elections.

This is not about partisan politics. This is about equal treatment under the law, justice, and self-government — that is why the American people deserve answers to these questions:

1) Did the FBI pay Christopher Steele, author of the dossier?

2) Was the dossier the basis for securing FISA warrants to spy on Americans? And why won’t the FBI show Congress the FISA application?

3) When did the FBI get the complete dossier and who gave it to them?

Dossier author Christopher Steele?
Fusion GPS?
Clinton campaign/DNC?
Sen. McCain’s staffer?

4) Did the FBI validate and corroborate the dossier?

5) Did Peter Strzok, Lisa Page, or Bruce Orr work on the FISA application?

6) Why and how often did DOJ lawyer Bruce Orr meet with dossier author Christopher Steele during the 2016 campaign?

7) Why did DOJ lawyer Bruce Orr meet with Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson after the election? To get their story straight after their candidate Clinton lost? Or to double down and plan how they were going to go after President-elect Trump?

8) When and how did the FBI learn that DOJ lawyer Bruce Orr’s wife, Nellie Orr, worked for Fusion GPS? And what exactly was Nellie Orr’s role in putting together the dossier?

9) Why did the FBI release text messages between Peter Strzok and Lisa Page? Normally, ongoing investigation is reason not to make such information public.

10) And why did FBI release only 375/10,000+ texts? Were they the best? Worst? Or part of a broader strategy to focus attention away from something else? And when can Americans see the other 96% of texts?

11) Why did Lisa Page leave Mueller probe two weeks before Peter Strzok? This was two weeks before FBI and Special Counsel even knew about the texts.

12) Why did the intelligence community wait two months after the election to brief President-elect Trump on the dossier (January 6, 2017)? Why was James Comey selected to do the briefing?

13) Was the briefing done to “legitimize” the dossier? And who leaked the fact that the briefing was about the dossier?

14) The New York Times reported last week that George Popadopoulos’ loose lips were a catalyst for launching the Russia investigation. Was President-elect Trump briefed on this?

15) Why did Fusion GPS founder Glenn Simpson meet with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya before and after her meeting with Donald Trump Jr.?

16) Why was FBI General Counsel Jim Baker reassigned two weeks ago? Was he the source for the first story on the dossier by David Corn on October 31, 2016? Or was it someone else at the FBI?

17) Why won’t the FBI give Congress the documents it’s requesting?

18) And why would @SenSchumer, leader of the Democrat party, publicly warn President-elect Trump on Jan. 3, 2017 that when you mess with the “intelligence community, they have six ways from Sunday at getting back at you?”

 

[Mick]

Nice VolGenericNumber.

 

[Vol0725]

 

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[luthervol]

Carl Higbie, Trump's appointee as Chief of External Affairs for AmeriCorps, resigns effective immediately when his past racist, sexist, anti-Muslim, and anti-LGBT comments are made public. Carl was a vocal supporter of Trump during the campaign and was spokesman for the Trump-aligned Great America PAC.

"I told this story the other day on my show. Somebody who lives in my condo association that has five kids, and it's her and her husband with the five kids and the mother, the grandmother of the kids, and they don't have jobs, they're there all the time -- I bet you can guess what color they are -- and they have no job," he said.

Speaking on 'Sound of Freedom' in December 2013, Higbie, while recounting a time he placed an advertisement to give away free firewood, said "the black race" had "lax" morals. He added that black women think "breeding is a form of government employment."
"Only one person was actually cordial to me," Higbie said. "Every other black person was rude. They wanted me to either load the wood, completely split it for them or some sort of you know assistance in labor. Now, mind you the ad was for free firewood, come take it all you want. And I believe that this translates directly into the culture that is breeding this welfare and the high percentage of people on welfare in the black race. It's a lax of morality."

"Go back to your Muslim ****hole and go crap in your hands and bang little boys on Thursday nights," Higbie said. "I just don't like Muslim people. People always rip me a new one for that. Carl, you're racist, you can't, you're sexist. I'm like Jesus Christ. I just don't like Muslim people because their ideology sucks."

Above are just a few of the quotes. Trump man through and through.

Trump appointee Carl Higbie made racist, sexist, anti-Muslim and anti-LGBT comments on the radio - CNNPolitics

 

[Mick]

Higbie derided members of the military suffering from severe PTSD as having "a weak mind" and said 75% of those afflicted were either lying or milking it for federal money.

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[Carl Pickens]

Carl Higbie, Trump's appointee as Chief of External Affairs for AmeriCorps, resigns effective immediately when his past racist, sexist, anti-Muslim, and anti-LGBT comments are made public. Carl was a vocal supporter of Trump during the campaign and was spokesman for the Trump-aligned Great America PAC.

"I told this story the other day on my show. Somebody who lives in my condo association that has five kids, and it's her and her husband with the five kids and the mother, the grandmother of the kids, and they don't have jobs, they're there all the time -- I bet you can guess what color they are -- and they have no job," he said.

Speaking on 'Sound of Freedom' in December 2013, Higbie, while recounting a time he placed an advertisement to give away free firewood, said "the black race" had "lax" morals. He added that black women think "breeding is a form of government employment."
"Only one person was actually cordial to me," Higbie said. "Every other black person was rude. They wanted me to either load the wood, completely split it for them or some sort of you know assistance in labor. Now, mind you the ad was for free firewood, come take it all you want. And I believe that this translates directly into the culture that is breeding this welfare and the high percentage of people on welfare in the black race. It's a lax of morality."

"Go back to your Muslim ****hole and go crap in your hands and bang little boys on Thursday nights," Higbie said. "I just don't like Muslim people. People always rip me a new one for that. Carl, you're racist, you can't, you're sexist. I'm like Jesus Christ. I just don't like Muslim people because their ideology sucks."

Above are just a few of the quotes. Trump man through and through.

Trump appointee Carl Higbie made racist, sexist, anti-Muslim and anti-LGBT comments on the radio - CNNPolitics

[Youtube]https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBsuBzulE[/Youtube]

 

[luthervol]

[Youtube]https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZfYBsuBzulE[/Youtube]

It means that a person that Trump respected and admired, and a person that respected and admired Trump is nothing but a complete white supremacist jerk. And was on record as being such.

 

[1972 Grad]

It means that a person that Trump respected and admired, and a person that respected and admired Trump is nothing but a complete white supremacist jerk. And was on record as being such.

Can you folks impeach Trump over this?