Trump's false claims about disaster response are beyond the pale

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James Varney: FEMA is Hoarding Billions of Dollars in Disaster Relief Money

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Mayorkas says FEMA has no more disaster funds, but IG report says agency is sitting on billions

Homeland Security Secretary Mayorkas says FEMA has no more disaster funds, but a report from the department IG says the agency has billions in untapped funds it could use for relief
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Is that actual funds they are sitting on, or just authorization to spend money that hasnt actually been distributed?
 
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Orangeburst said:
Is that actual funds they are sitting on, or just authorization to spend money that hasnt actually been distributed?
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Budget experts warn that this new firestorm shows that FEMA has been turned into a slush fund that the agency and the Biden-Harris White House can spend at will.

An August 2024 report from Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General noted, "As of October 2022, FEMA estimated that 847 disaster declarations with approximately $73 billion in unliquidated funds remained open." The report also says "$8.3 billion in unliquidated obligations" was "for disasters declared in 2012 or earlier" that analysts say could be returned to help people battling for survival in disasters now.

The IG report concurs, saying, "More than $7 billion in unliquidated funds... could potentially be returned to the Disaster Relief Fund."

Jeremy Portnoy, at the watchdog group Open the Books, notes that the way FEMA has set it up, the agency has locked in grant money that it must use during and before a "period of performance" deadline. That means the funds are obligated for that time period.

However, the Inspector General report finds that FEMA has been extending deadlines by up to 16 years for $7 billion worth of grants, sometimes without explanation. For example, FEMA is still sitting on $4.5 billion in unused, frozen funds for Super Storm Sandy, which happened 12 years ago, in 2012. FEMA officials have to justify and explain why they’re extending deadlines in writing, but it’s unclear what they’re saying to justify freezing the funds for so long.

The IG report also notes that FEMA officials extend spending programs based on "subjective" criteria and that "as a result, the potential risk for fraud, waste, and abuse increases the longer a program remains open."
 
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volfanhill said:
Can potus increase the funding by EO on this? If the answer is no then she's right.
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Respectfully, she is not. She is inflaming partisan rhetoric by calling a question “misinformation” when she could have a answered the question.

Yes, the President can send funds to Lebanon. No, he can not do that for the victims of Helene.
Why? It is the law. That is why. (And then explain the law.)

This admin had a chance to actually educate Americans on some of the inanities of their own government, and maybe decrease the temperature of the reaction to their response, and the spokeswoman chose to take cheap political shots at Fox instead. Shots that increased the temperature, as evidenced by the initial Tweet.

It is yet another missed opportunity at leadership by this admin, and it is not a good look.
 
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volfanhill said:
Can potus increase the funding by EO on this? If the answer is no then she's right.
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McDad said:
If we had a president, and not a brain-rotting husk in the oval office, funding could be done the expedient way with Executive Order...especially since Congress isnt in session. Try to be better.

The president has several executive orders and other tools that can be used in emergency situations, including:

  • Executive Order 10427: Administers disaster relief


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Budget experts warn that this new firestorm shows that FEMA has been turned into a slush fund that the agency and the Biden-Harris White House can spend at will.

An August 2024 report from Homeland Security’s Office of Inspector General noted, "As of October 2022, FEMA estimated that 847 disaster declarations with approximately $73 billion in unliquidated funds remained open." The report also says "$8.3 billion in unliquidated obligations" was "for disasters declared in 2012 or earlier" that analysts say could be returned to help people battling for survival in disasters now.

The IG report concurs, saying, "More than $7 billion in unliquidated funds... could potentially be returned to the Disaster Relief Fund."

Jeremy Portnoy, at the watchdog group Open the Books, notes that the way FEMA has set it up, the agency has locked in grant money that it must use during and before a "period of performance" deadline. That means the funds are obligated for that time period.

However, the Inspector General report finds that FEMA has been extending deadlines by up to 16 years for $7 billion worth of grants, sometimes without explanation. For example, FEMA is still sitting on $4.5 billion in unused, frozen funds for Super Storm Sandy, which happened 12 years ago, in 2012. FEMA officials have to justify and explain why they’re extending deadlines in writing, but it’s unclear what they’re saying to justify freezing the funds for so long.

The IG report also notes that FEMA officials extend spending programs based on "subjective" criteria and that "as a result, the potential risk for fraud, waste, and abuse increases the longer a program remains open."
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still isnt clear to me..is there actually $73B in a FEMA account, or just authorization to withdraw these funds from the Treasury..

If they have $73B just sitting around looking for a new source of spending, I would think Congress would snatch that back..of course we are run by fools, so who knows.
 
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Orangeburst said:
still isnt clear to me..is there actually $73B in a FEMA account, or just authorization to withdraw these funds from the Treasury..

If they have $73B just sitting around looking for a new source of spending, I would think Congress would snatch that back..of course we are run by fools, so who knows.
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Sounds like they have been hoarding with no oversight. Slush fund for the government.
 
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InVOLuntary said:
I wouldn't take her call either. What was she going to say? "We're going to the hurricane victims seven fiddy!"
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Well, if the storm eye makes landfall 20 to 50 miles north of Tampa Bay the economic loss will be in the hundreds of billions. Maybe then he will put politics aside and take the help which is offered.
 
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Gladiator1 said:
I don't mind helping people who need it. Don't like giving money for votes or hushing foreign governments laundering money for our president and famil. But I guess that's just me
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Hmmmm. Trump's promised spending will increase the debt by $4 to $5 trillion and he's doing that to buy votes. Whether its tax breaks for wealthy benefactors, protectionist policies, or something else he will add three times the the debt what Harris' proposed spending would.

But MAGA loons insist the spending problem is Dem socialists. Idiots.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Hmmmm. Trump's promised spending will increase the debt by $4 to $5 trillion and he's doing that to buy votes. Whether its tax breaks for wealthy benefactors, protectionist policies, or something else he will add three times the the debt what Harris' proposed spending would.

But MAGA loons insist the spending problem is Dem socialists. Idiots.
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Rump spending was higher than Obaaaama's before he exited. Remember, P01135809 doesn't golf. He pays for things out his own pocket. But, when truth comes out, he doesn't.

I'm saying he's full of more **** than a Christmas turkey.
 
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