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#6,851
lawgator1 said:
Bullspit.

Watergate took over a year to unfold. And, just like Trump now, Nixon tried to blame the press and painted himself as the victim.

We'll see how this all ends up. But despite Trump's repeated efforts to head off the investigations, they are moving forward and the press will not just sit back and do nothing because it annoys Trump.

Maybe Trump will be vindicated. I doubt it. I suspect you doubt he will, too.
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You are correct Watergate took a year to unfold. The biggest difference?

Reporters back then actually took the time to investigate and properly vet the information they received. These days? Everyone wants a scoop and will toss out whatever "information" they get regardless of how bad it is or not even properly fact checking it hoping to beat the competition.

Additionally, Watergate started off as a low level situation that didn't involve Nixon. It took them a while to get around to his involvement. Now? The first thing the media does has been go directly to Trump.

Investigative journalism at the national level is dead. Even Bob Woodward says the media needs to calm the eff down in regards to Trump. And Carl Bernstein says the media needs to "find the best obtainable version of the truth." And:

"We are struggling to cover factually, contextually, with nuance, who this president is, who this individual is, who his family is, who his business relationships are with, what his policies are, and how those working with him are doing," he said.
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And it's not like they are small fish or anything. When the two main reporters from Watergate are giving advice to the media to hold up and get their facts straight, that's telling.

Trump may or may not be vindicated. Don't know at this time. What I do know is I can't trust any of the media outlets to provide the truth without either withholding facts or putting their spin on it.
 
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#6,852
lawgator1 said:
Bullspit.

Watergate took over a year to unfold. And, just like Trump now, Nixon tried to blame the press and painted himself as the victim.

We'll see how this all ends up. But despite Trump's repeated efforts to head off the investigations, they are moving forward and the press will not just sit back and do nothing because it annoys Trump.

Maybe Trump will be vindicated. I doubt it. I suspect you doubt he will, too.
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Most here won't remember it but Nixon created and had written down an "enemies list". On that list were the names of 56 TV, newspaper reporters and columnists. It wasn't pretty when that list became public. Wonder if Donny has a list?
 
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MT LeConte said:
Most here won't remember it but Nixon created and had written down an "enemies list". On that list were the names of 56 TV, newspaper reporters and columnists. It wasn't pretty when that list became public. Wonder if Donny has a list?
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But the real question is, did he keep it in his back pocket?
 
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#6,854
MT LeConte said:
Most here won't remember it but Nixon created and had written down an "enemies list". On that list were the names of 56 TV, newspaper reporters and columnists. It wasn't pretty when that list became public. Wonder if Donny has a list?
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It's ok if he does. Obama had such a list and the Dems didn't have a problem.
 
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#6,859
MT LeConte said:
Most here won't remember it but Nixon created and had written down an "enemies list". On that list were the names of 56 TV, newspaper reporters and columnists. It wasn't pretty when that list became public. Wonder if Donny has a list?
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His list is he hates everyone but Fox, and them too if they dare question him.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Bullspit.

Watergate took over a year to unfold. And, just like Trump now, Nixon tried to blame the press and painted himself as the victim.

We'll see how this all ends up. But despite Trump's repeated efforts to head off the investigations, they are moving forward and the press will not just sit back and do nothing because it annoys Trump.

Maybe Trump will be vindicated. I doubt it. I suspect you doubt he will, too.
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Ok counselor tell us exactly where anyone in the Trump organization broke the law? Oh and I'd also add cite the criminal statutes. You can't.
 
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#6,861
I'm increasingly hearing the "Russian misinformation" excuse for fake news spread by "anonymous sources". I guess that's the game plan when this all gets blown up - is to keep blaming Russia
 
#6,863
#6,863
VolStrom said:
Ok counselor tell us exactly where anyone in the Trump organization broke the law? Oh and I'd also add cite the criminal statutes. You can't.
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The President of The United States asking the NSA Director to intervene in the FBI's investigation is obstruction of justice.
 
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VolStrom said:
Ok counselor tell us exactly where anyone in the Trump organization broke the law? Oh and I'd also add cite the criminal statutes. You can't.
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Meanwhile, we're awash in illegal leaks and news that the Obama admin illegally spied on Americans and nobody cares.
 
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#6,868
golfballs said:
I'm increasingly hearing the "Russian misinformation" excuse for fake news spread by "anonymous sources". I guess that's the game plan when this all gets blown up - is to keep blaming Russia
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The people actually doing the investigation aren't getting their information from the Russians or the media or anonymous sources. Their information is coming from the IC. They already know the answer to many if not most of the questions they are asking the people they are interviewing to see if they are being truthful. If there were nothing out there this thing would be over already.
 
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VolStrom said:
Ok counselor tell us exactly where anyone in the Trump organization broke the law? Oh and I'd also add cite the criminal statutes. You can't.
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The "it's not technically illegal to collude with Russia" was last week's Trump defender narrative. This week it's that it's fake news because it's unsourced.

Please try to keep up with the excuses a little bit better, mkay?
 
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lawgator1 said:
The "it's not technically illegal to collude with Russia" was last week's Trump defender narrative. This week it's that it's fake news because it's unsourced.

Please try to keep up with the excuses a little bit better, mkay?
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Still waiting for you to cite the actual law?
 
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So no one that you know of in Trumps organization broke the law, right lawgator? But lets be a ***** and claim collusion is the reason Clinton lost right? Jesus Christ you left wingers are dilusional.
 
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