TrumPutinGate

I sort of made up the numbers.

There is no "sort of" in your post. You pulled that whole thought process straight from your ass.

As for your zero context point, Trump again brings it on himself. How many former presidents Tweeted and complained about the other party being horrible and refusing to confirm appointees? You show me where any previous president made even remotely similar comments as Trump, and I'll give you a bonus point.

Oh, they may not have made their comments into 140 characters or less, but they sure as hell have made comments about the other party. Maybe a bit more flowery and not as, well, Trump-like, but there are always comments.

Don't forget Obama putting the SCOTUS on blast at a State of the Union Address. That was a pretty big deal.
 
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I sort of made up the numbers. His approval rating is below 40% so the converse is more than 60% disapprove. I thought it was the Trumpsters' point that Washington insiders, the media, and intellectuals hated Trump. I thought I was just restating what you believed....maybe not. Maybe less than 60% of those people hate Trump.

As for your zero context point, Trump again brings it on himself. How many former presidents Tweeted and complained about the other party being horrible and refusing to confirm appointees? You show me where any previous president made even remotely similar comments as Trump, and I'll give you a bonus point.

It may be a chicken or egg situation. I think Trump is getting exactly what he deserves based on his continued idiotic attacks on the media, Obama, and the left.

Approval ratings are meaningless. Trump is vastly unike any former president. And thats not an inherently bad thing.
 
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Democrat Narrative DESTROYED: Comey Opening Statement Says Trump Isn't Under Personal Investigation, Didn't Pressure Comey To Kill Russian Campaign Collusion Investigation

But MUH sources

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According to whom?

How about anyone with a brain and will be honest with themselves. The problem with Trumpskters is they won't admit it after he is impeached.
Have you ever seen a president with this many scandals in the first 6 months? All he does is watch cable news and tweet.
 
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How about anyone with a brain and will be honest with themselves. The problem with Trumpskters is they won't admit it after he is impeached.
Have you ever seen a president with this many scandals in the first 6 months? All he does is watch cable news and tweet.

You old enough to remember Clinton?
 
Comey's statement reads like a novel. Entertaining to read. There were several interesting impressions.

1. Comey states Trump was not being personally investigated in a counter intelligence investigation

2. Comey repeatedly uses the word personally when discussing the investigation into Trump. Could mean something? The FBI also not wanting to release a statement about Trump not being investigated is interesting, albeit likely standard practice.

3. Pretty funny that Trump brought up the hookers himself.

Tomorrow will be interesting
 
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There is no "sort of" in your post. You pulled that whole thought process straight from your ass.

I thought it might be fun to let everyone play along.

Fill in the blanks:

In your opinion what % of each group feels Trump is doing a horrible job.

General voting age population _________
Media _________
Washington insiders __________
Intellectuals ______________

My answers are 60, 70, 75, and 85.

I would think that at least half of those who think he is doing a horrible job, would like to see him removed from office.
 
I thought it might be fun to let everyone play along.

Fill in the blanks:

In your opinion what % of each group feels Trump is doing a horrible job.

General voting age population _________
Media _________
Washington insiders __________
Intellectuals ______________

My answers are 60, 70, 75, and 85.

I would think that at least half of those who think he is doing a horrible job, would like to see him removed from office.

1) Who gives a sh!t?
2) Who gives a flying f***?
3) Hopefully most.
4) Don't know. Don't care.
 
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Who’s Conspiracy Mongering Now?
Every presidency is a mixed bag, but today’s intelligence follies cross a Rubicon.
Donald Trump and Jared Kushner in Rome, May 24.
Donald Trump and Jared Kushner in Rome, May 24. PHOTO: ETTORE FERRARI/EUROPEAN PRESSPHOTO AGENCY

By Holman W. Jenkins, Jr.
June 6, 2017 7:41 p.m. ET
492 COMMENTS
The president who tweeted last week to complain about his “covfefe” last year ran a campaign. Whatever you like to believe about certain Trump companions and their conversations with Russian persons, nothing about it suggested an organization capable of participating in an arch conspiracy with a foreign intelligence agency. The campaign was a typically disorganized, free-form, low-budget Trump production. People came and went with head-spinning speed while having distressingly little effect on the candidate.

That’s why the storm that is getting ready to break may have a lot less to do with Trump collusion than you think. House Intelligence Committee subpoenas name three former Obama officials related to the “unmasking” of Americans captured in the vast electronic trawl supposedly undertaken purely for foreign intelligence purposes.

One subpoena concerns former U.N. Ambassador Samantha Power, with no intelligence responsibilities but personally close to President Obama. Why?


This comes amid a report from the U.S.’s Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court about a pattern of Obama violations of the privacy of Americans “incidentally” caught up in foreign surveillance. We already know of one unmasking illegally leaked to the press for political purposes, Mike Flynn.

More important, we know one case of foreign intelligence seen by U.S. officials turning out to be a Russian plant, i.e., the fake document concerning Hillary Clinton that prompted James Comey’s intervention in the campaign.

So add two questions to the list. Did Obama officials use allegations about Trump-Russia connections as an excuse to abuse intelligence collection for political purposes, and how much intelligence that caught their interest was actually fake intelligence planted by Russia? The obvious case being the scurrilous Trump dossier that was widely circulated internally and leaked to the media.

You can doubt his perspicacity, but Mr. Trump’s view of Russia is far from inexplicable, and voters got a full blast of it during the campaign. Vladimir Putin walks all over the U.S. because our leaders are weak. Russia relations were a specific case of the general Trumpian pitch. He is a strong leader who, with his amazing personality, would transform bad situations into good ones.

Improved relations with Russia have been the aim of every president since the collapse of the Berlin Wall, and indeed every president since FDR.

Presidents and presidents-elect have been using secret emissaries and back channels forever.

If the Trump campaign directed or cooperated in illegal acts by Russia, that would be collusion in the sense of contributing to a crime. If Mr. Flynn promised privately what Trump was saying publicly, that he would seek better relations with Russia, as a deliberate inducement to encourage Russian meddling in the race, most of us would consider that an impeachable offense.

But unable to substantiate any such allegation, the media reach for an error so bad it has a name—the equivocation fallacy. Thus Jared Kushner is accused of, after the election, trying to “collude” with Russia in settling the Syrian war—the ad absurdum case of trying to make those seven letters c-o-l-l-u-d-e substitute for proof of something nefarious.

The qualifications for president are light and Donald Trump meets them all. He’s a natural-born U.S. citizen of the requisite age. He received a majority of the electoral vote. U.S. voters are entitled to elect someone whom their fellow citizens consider an idiot, and may even have good reason for doing so since every election is a binary choice between X and Y.


Let’s also recognize that the U.S. voter has hit very few home runs in 228 years. Presidents are a mixed bag—always. Even Obama idolaters by now should be rethinking how he spent his first two years, which ended up throwing away the last six and helped bring Mr. Trump to power (ironically, thanks to many frustrated “hope and change” Obama voters in the Midwest).

And certainly nothing about Sarbanes-Oxley, the Medicare drug benefit, the Iraq war, or the Department of Homeland Security makes us particularly long for George W. Bush.

Mr. Trump is many things, but he’s not an idiot. He has a deep, instinctive understanding of New York political, real estate and media culture, and, like many presidents, now is struggling to apply his mostly irrelevant knowledge to a job he is poorly prepared for. He still strikes us as a good bet not to finish his term—his age, his temperament, the anti-synergy between his business interests and his White House life, the latter not helped by his classy in-laws.

But unless you think everything was hunky dory, or unless you’re a member of the class for whom his status is a threat to your status, his election was exactly what you want in a democracy, a timely message from the electorate to the class of people who make it their profession to try to lead us. Never mind what fairer-minded historians write, even liberal ones will say the seminal fact of Mr. Trump’s time was how quickly his critics sank to his conspiracy-mongering level and worse.
 
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Comey's statement reads like a novel. Entertaining to read. There were several interesting impressions.

1. Comey states Trump was not being personally investigated in a counter intelligence investigation

2. Comey repeatedly uses the word personally when discussing the investigation into Trump. Could mean something? The FBI also not wanting to release a statement about Trump not being investigated is interesting, albeit likely standard practice.

3. Pretty funny that Trump brought up the hookers himself.

Tomorrow will be interesting

The one thing I've learned from all this is that Trump is extremely protective of Flynn. Not Kushner, Page, Sessions, or Manafort put Flynn. And out of all those people, Flynn is the only one with a federal grand jury hanging over his head.
 
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You have numbers, but I fully understand your response.

Your post was not really funny or fun at all. You seem to erroneously believe that those who support Trump are somehow less intelligent. Or those who voted for him are not intellectuals. Thats just fallacious. But I undersand why you do it.
 
You have numbers, but I fully understand your response.
I have no numbers. I would not waste one second of my time worrying about D.C, insiders, the Media, or your so called intellectuals. Those 3 groups thought that the jug eared community organizer did a good job, and he was a f*****g disaster in my book. Obama, Bush, Clintons, the Media, and the beltway establishment are the reason you have Trump today.
 
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I have no numbers. I would not waste one second of my time worrying about D.C, insiders, the Media, or your so called intellectuals. Those 3 groups thought that the jug eared community organizer did a good job, and he was a f*****g disaster in my book. Obama, Bush, Clintons, the Media, and the beltway establishment are the reason you have Trump today.

The Trump fiasco is weighing heavily.
 
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SIAP - Oh CNN, you've done it again.

Originally they claimed "sources" told them Comey would refute Trump's claim that Comey told him 3 times he was not under investigation. Linking Zero Hedge since CNN has changed their story.

A Tuesday story with four bylines carried this headline: “Comey expected to refute Trump.” Here’s a key part of that story:

Trump has made a blanket claim that Comey told him multiple times that he was not under investigation. But one source said Comey is expected to explain to senators that those were much more nuanced conversations from which Trump concluded that he was not under investigation.
On CNN’s air, analyst Gloria Borger put matters more starkly, saying, “Comey is going to dispute the president on this point if he’s asked about it by senators, and we have to assume that he will be. He will say he never assured Donald Trump that he was not under investigation, that that would have been improper for him to do so.”

Now that Comey did in fact claim he told Trump 3 times he was not under investigation CNN changed the story and added this correction

CORRECTION AND UPDATE: This article was published before Comey released his prepared opening statement. The article and headline have been corrected to reflect that Comey does not directly dispute that Trump was told multiple times he was not under investigation in his prepared testimony released after this story was published.

C'mon CNN! Just admit that Comey did indeed tell Trump he was not under investigation. You got it wrong. Saying "Comey does not directly dispute" is not manning up.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/06/politics/comey-testimony-refute-trump-russian-investigation/index.html
 
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