TrumPutinGate

[Grand Vol]

I agree. Ask Bernie what should be done.

Bernie sold out to the whims of the DNC during the convention.

 

[Velo Vol]

I agree. Ask Bernie what should be done.

Sanders lost 55% - 43%, but in the 2016 bizarro world where the 2nd place candidate wins I guess he does have a beef.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Sanders lost 55% - 43%, but in the 2016 bizarro world where the 2nd place candidate wins I guess he does have a beef.

Looking at that map though, in retrospect it's easy to see how Clinton lost the general election. Sanders winning Michigan and Wisconsin should have been bigger red flags then what they were at the time.

 

[1972 Grad]

I agree. Ask Bernie what should be done.

Just got back from Cape San Blas by the way. Took your advice and had the BBQ from the Sand Bucket, was great.

How was your stay there?

 

[luthervol]

Sanders lost 55% - 43%, but in the 2016 bizarro world where the 2nd place candidate wins I guess he does have a beef.

I agree with you. I was throwing the "Bernie was wronged" red herring back at them. If he was so betrayed by the party, then he would have to want revenge; so let him decide what should be done in regards to the Trump/Russia election interference...who better?

 

[luthervol]

How was your stay there?

Had a blast. My nephew got married on the beach last night. We ate at Indian Pass, Sunset Cove, Cone Heads, Peppers, and Sand Bucket (all good). I give the golf course an average rating. The water was crystal clear.

 

[Grand Vol]

I agree with you. I was throwing the "Bernie was wronged" red herring back at them. If he was so betrayed by the party, then he would have to want revenge; so let him decide what should be done in regards to the Trump/Russia election interference...who better?

Let me ask, do you think the results might have been different had the DNC not thrown their weight behind Clinton from the start?

 

[luthervol]

Let me ask, do you think the results might have been different had the DNC not thrown their weight behind Clinton from the start?

I think it would have been Clinton. As much as many despise her, there are also many that feel she was highly qualified and would have been an excellent president.

 

[volger]

I understand the reasoning. The problem is we cannot have the political party that benefited from collusion stay in power. The only fair thing to do is have a new election.

Welp, I see this ending well for you too. smfh

 

[joevol33]

I agree with you. I was throwing the "Bernie was wronged" red herring back at them. If he was so betrayed by the party, then he would have to want revenge; so let him decide what should be done in regards to the Trump/Russia election interference...who better?

I'm sure he would like revenge, but I'm also sure he probably doesn't want to commit suicide.

 

[Velo Vol]

[twitter]https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/884016887692234753[/twitter]

[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d53lXivZsHc[/youtube]

 

[37L1]

This is mostly accurate (except I don't remember Romney being branded a racist for the 47% comment - it was just a careless thing to concede). There is no doubt that Romney was ahead of the curve on Russia and that Obama and Hillary showed weakness in their own right. Still, if the discussion is Trump - he has done more than show weakness. He has shown indifference to Russian intrusion into our democratic process and defended them for their human rights abuses by drawing a moral equivalency between the US and Russia. "Are we so innocent?" The links and undisclosed contacts between Russian agents and Trump surrogates (even family members) continue to become more and more apparent and as they do... the suspicion over possible collusion continues to grow.

Are you sure you want to go down the "moral equivalency" road?

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

I think it would have been Clinton. As much as many despise her, there are also many that feel she was highly qualified and would have been an excellent president.

How could many feel she was highly qualified and would have made a good president? There is only two real reasons that HC made it as far as she did. #1 she is a woman. #2 she is the wife of a former president.

 

[hog88]

I said earlier that i did not know whether Pence could be president under circumstances where his own election is also tainted. I think it would fall to Ryan,, with a special election for president 6 months out.

What section of the constitution is that provision in again?

 

[Grand Vol]

I think it would have been Clinton. As much as many despise her, there are also many that feel she was highly qualified and would have been an excellent president.

It still might have been. However, would you think it might have been nice to have seen a primary without DNC interference?

 

[AirVol]

It still might have been. However, would you think it might have been nice to have seen a primary without DNC interference?

Did Hillary ever apologize to anyone, especially Bernie?

 

[Grand Vol]

Did Hillary ever apologize to anyone, especially Bernie?

Did the Devil apologize to God for tempting Adam and Eve?

 

[zeppelin128]

Trump could admit on live television that he personally asked Putin to help him win the election through fraud and his supporters still would not care and would somehow attempt to rationalize it. It is just the nature of our politics in these days of hyper partisanship.

I'm not saying it happened, just that his voters don't care. Anything to stick it to liberals.

 

[hog88]

Trump could admit on live television that he personally asked Putin to help him win the election through fraud and his supporters still would not care and would somehow attempt to rationalize it. It is just the nature of our politics in these days of hyper partisanship.

I'm not saying it happened, just that his voters don't care. Anything to stick it to liberals.

And if Muller clears him and his campaign his detractors will scream conspiracy.

 

[TheColdVolTruth]

This is mostly accurate (except I don't remember Romney being branded a racist for the 47% comment - it was just a careless thing to concede). There is no doubt that Romney was ahead of the curve on Russia and that Obama and Hillary showed weakness in their own right. Still, if the discussion is Trump - he has done more than show weakness. He has shown indifference to Russian intrusion into our democratic process and defended them for their human rights abuses by drawing a moral equivalency between the US and Russia. "Are we so innocent?" The links and undisclosed contacts between Russian agents and Trump surrogates (even family members) continue to become more and more apparent and as they do... the suspicion over possible collusion continues to grow.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/1896569

From the article...

And then there are the racial dog whistles in Romney’s speech. No matter how much Republicans deny playing the race card by talking about welfare and “dependence,” much of the point of talking about it is to trigger pictures in Republican heads. Let’s be honest. For most Republicans, the mental image isn’t of a lazy white kid in front of an Xbox. The “freeloaders” are always people of color, usually black. (Doubt it? Then why did Romney play the “victims” trope immediately after the “dependent upon government” trope?) It used to work on me.

 

[AirVol]

Did the Devil apologize to God for tempting Adam and Eve?

Good point. Yet there are some on here that defend her actions tells me what kind of person they are too.

 

[Grand Vol]

Good point. Yet there are some on here that defend her actions tells me what kind of person they are too.

The same could be said of Trump. Even the hardcore supporters can admit he's over the line from time to time.

 

[lawgator1]

Yesterday morning, the line was that the meeting was to discuss Russian adoption.

Last night, it was admitted that it was to get info that would hurt Clinton.

What changed?

(Hint: it was the NYT article)

 

[hog88]

Yesterday morning, the line was that the meeting was to discuss Russian adoption.

Last night, it was admitted that it was to get info that would hurt Clinton.

What changed?

(Hint: it was the NYT article)

Was this meeting before or after a foreign spy was paid to write a damaging dossier on Trump?

 

[zeppelin128]

And if Muller clears him and his campaign his detractors will scream conspiracy.

This is also true.