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luthervol said:
Attacking the media as an institution is wrong. Attacking various segments of the media based on their practices is justified. Trump and co. have a strategy of attacking the legitimate and legitimizing the illegitimate. It was his calculated strategy from day one and it has worked better than I would have ever expected.
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Should CNN be "attacked" for the producer admitting there is nothing to the story or should they be "attacked" for pushing an illegitimate story? Neither? Both?
 
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McDad said:
Should CNN be "attacked" for the producer admitting there is nothing to the story or should they be "attacked" for pushing an illegitimate story? Neither? Both?
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The ratings are in the toilet even the Democrats some of them are starting to wake up
 
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luthervol said:
Attacking the media as an institution is wrong. Attacking various segments of the media based on their practices is justified. Trump and co. have a strategy of attacking the legitimate and legitimizing the illegitimate. It was his calculated strategy from day one and it has worked better than I would have ever expected.
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All you just said was that it's wrong to attack the media, but it's not wrong to attack the media (by ref to your former posts, the media you disagree with).

And all you just did was establish yourself as the ultimate judge of what is real media, while ignoring the massive scandals where your favorite segment of the media was outed for what you accuse Fox News of.

You're not much benefit to yourself, luther.
 
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luthervol said:
Attacking the media as an institution is wrong. Attacking various segments of the media based on their practices is justified. Trump and co. have a strategy of attacking the legitimate and legitimizing the illegitimate. It was his calculated strategy from day one and it has worked better than I would have ever expected.
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Orange_Crush said:
All you just said was that it's wrong to attack the media, but it's not wrong to attack the media (by ref to your former posts, the media you disagree with).

And all you just did was establish yourself as the ultimate judge of what is real media, while ignoring the massive scandals where your favorite segment of the media was outed for what you accuse Fox News of.

You're not much benefit to yourself, luther.
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OK... I didn't get a response, so I'll ask for clarification, luther.

Are you saying that it's OK to attack media that one believes to be pushing an agenda and passing along fake news? To pass them off as detrimental/enemies to the country, and breed distrust for them as Obama did?

Is that the stance you're taking?
 
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FLVOL69 said:
The ratings are in the toilet even the Democrats some of them are starting to wake up
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And snopes calls them out on it. Proves them wrong...




Broadly speaking, most of the falsehoods levelled against Trump fall into one or more of four categories, each of them drawing from and feeding into four public personas inhabited by the President. They are:

* Donald Trump: International Embarrassment
* Trump the Tyrant
* Donald Trump: Bully baby
* Trump the Buffoon.

Some of these claims are downright fake, entirely fabricated by unreliable or dubious web sites and presented as satire, or otherwise blatantly false. But the rest — some of which have gained significant traction and credibility from otherwise serious people and organizations — provide a fascinating insight into the tactics and preoccupations of the broad anti-Trump movement known as “the Resistance,” whether they were created by critics of the President or merely shared by them.

Generally speaking, we discovered that they are characterized and driven by four types of errors of thought:

* Alarmism
* A lack of historical context or awareness
* Cherry-picking of evidence (especially visual evidence)
* A failure to adhere to Occam’s Razor — the common-sense understanding that the simplest explanation for an event or behavior is the most likely.

Infused throughout almost all these claims, behind their successful dissemination, is confirmation bias: the fuel that drives the spread of all propaganda and false or misleading claims among otherwise sensible and skeptical people. Confirmation bias is the tendency to look for, find, remember and share information that confirms the beliefs we already have, and the tendency to dismiss, ignore and forget information that contradicts those beliefs. It is one of the keys to why clever people, on all sides of every disagreement, sometimes believe stupid things that aren’t true.

Velo gonna be mad. Some of the claims he has made (twitter) are debunked by snopes.

http://www.snopes.com/2017/07/12/trump-lies/
 
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luthervol said:
I think it will be part of the ongoing investigations. Who would want the people trying to dig up dirt on HRC silenced at this point? hmmmmm...Trump maybe?
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🎶luther lives in la la land🎶
🎶la la land
🎶la la land🎶
🎶luther lives in la la land🎶
🎶where sanity will not go🎶

🎶ba ....ding🎵
 
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hog88 said:
Accurate statement for a twatter user.
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This should be a pinned post for posterity.

A self-proclaimed "patriot" just agreed that the American media is more a danger to the West than Russia.

I didn't realize the media had 5,000 nukes, was waging war in Ukraine, destabilizing governments, and killing people it disagreed with.

There are not many things in life you can count on, but you can always count on Hero of the Russian Federation, Hog88, the number 88 of course taking on more significance the more we learn about him.
 
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We can go ahead and lay this to rest.

The dems colluded with Ukraine in an attempt to bring down President Trump and blame it on the Russians.
 
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volprof said:
This should be a pinned post for posterity.

A self-proclaimed "patriot" just agreed that the American media is more a danger to the West than Russia.

I didn't realize the media had 5,000 nukes, was waging war in Ukraine, destabilizing governments, and killing people it disagreed with.

There are not many things in life you can count on, but you can always count on Hero of the Russian Federation, Hog88, the number 88 of course taking on more significance the more we learn about him.
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88 was the number of his victims attributed to his war record , I told you he's ex delta force , you best not **** with him..
 
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Obsessed said:
We can go ahead and lay this to rest.

The dems colluded with Ukraine in an attempt to bring down President Trump and blame it on the Russians.
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If you feel strongly enough, why don't you start a new thread about it?

You can call it "Seth Rich Ate Pizza in Ukraine Gate."
 
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Orange_Crush said:
For me, I'm open to pretty much anything here and just want the truth to come out. But for anyone to fully admit to limiting possibilities of what may possibly be true based on their feelings, while then accusing others of an inability to recognize or accept truth...

Well, that just becomes too much.
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Again, you misinterpreted my post. Try this....

You come in from work and all the fish are dead in your aquarium. You feel the water and it is hot. You then realize the heater has been turned all the way up. Those are all indisputable facts. The question becomes, how and why was the heater turned all the way up.

Your 9 year old son enters the room and says "I did it".
Now you're faced with the realization that there was a very negative outcome directly caused by someone you desperately want to think the best of. Now assume your son must leave immediately before you have anytime to get answers.

In your head you start running through all the possible explanations. I could expand here, but I'll cut to the chase. Did he do it because of misinformation he read on the internet, were the instructions wrong, did a friend tell him it would be okay, did he just not know how hot the water would get and that it would kill the fish, or did he do it with full knowledge of what was going to happen? These are all possible and some more plausible than others. The one with the most unacceptable implications is the latter.

Misinformation on the internet would be bad, a misprinting in the instructions would be bad, a friend either intentionally or unintentionally encouraging the action would be bad, his own ignorance would be bad, acting on his own with full knowledge would be far worse.
 
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A whistleblower provided a very damaging email showing that the Democrats were plotting to ‘manufacture false evidence of the Russian security services’ involvement in cyber attacks during the U.S. presidential elections 2016′.


“We all agree there is a need to provide technical details on Russian hacking. (Redacted) urges you and (redacted) to bring up again the issue with (redacted). It’s quite important, especially as we approach the hearings.

If there are no technical details we have to find some by all means. I am sure his guys can do it.”

Cyber Berkut stated that they redacted the names in order not to expose their sources:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/201...show-democrats-plotting-blame-russia-hacking/
 
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FLVOL69 said:
88 was the number of his victims attributed to his war record , I told you he's ex delta force , you best not **** with him..
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And I've told you those days are behind him now.

He gave up patriotism some years ago.

Plus, your blowhard threats mean nothing to me, Frank.
 
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