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The internet is not the best thing to check for that.

That's a pretty intelligent response, Burger. But I tend to disagree with it because "We the people..." has never been stronger than it is right now because of the Internet. And it's a ball "We the people..." fumble day after day after day.
 
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Your ability to hold the views which you have is becoming more understandable. Truth seems to be an irrelevant factor.

There is no standard. It's one of the many areas where the country must put faith in the wisdom and judgement of their elected leader. Obama lived up to the role and Trump does not. It's subjective. It falls to the court of public opinion.

If there is ever to be a concrete standard developed, I'd gladly sit in and offer my insight.

You went back to opinion, my friend. If you're going to chastise others about their supposed failures per truth, don't you think that you should be willing to bring some, as opposed to resting all of your arguments on your opinion?

I mean... Like I said... Now's your chance to step up and seize the day, luther. You may never have an opportunity like this again...

lol. I already smell vinegar. I'll consider changing my MO incrementally as you are changing yours. Cool?

I'm more than willing to change my mind and MO if you'll bring something of substance that would indicate that I should. I've done it many times here and expect I will many more times. If you'd like, go check out historic discussions between me and PKT, or TRUT (unlike your stamina, many of them went for dozens of pages and hundreds of posts). There was give and take. When they've showed me wrong, or poked holes in my philosophy, I've changed.

You on the other hand---and this is my primary issue with you--you never do. Never ever. You cock and crow, strut and proclaim. You chastise others, call them wrong, crazy, cooks... You insult intellect, morality ethics, etc of your political adversaries. But when someone actually pushes back and shows how vacuous your arguments are, you always...

ALWAYS take it back to relativity. It goes back to opinion, appearances, group-think, popular opinion, personal opinion. You always...

ALWAYS retreat from objective reality.

And that's not so bad in and of itself, except for people like you who claim objective truth in the convenience of taking others to task.

Look at the above.

You called Grand's grasp/use of truth into questopn. You accused him of having no care for truth.

This was after you admitted that you select the truths you're willing to consider.

I pointed that out, trying to get you to see your own internal inconsistencies. You literally saw the internal contradiction, yet refused to admit it, or make a change based on it.

We went about, and I admit that with your contradictions and refusal to admit them, it did feel like a dog chasing its tail.

You have repeatedly claimed Trump objectively wrong for the his treatment of the media. Yet when it was shown that Obama did the EXACT same thing, you bent the world trying to excuse it.

So, I pressed, and pressed, and pressed, seeking clarification while also trying to show you that it is an internal contradiction that you need to deal with. But you won't. You refuse to. You will lie to everyone here and/or yourself before admitting your hypocrisy.

And with those lies, you flee yet again--as you always do--to personal opinion, group-think and popular opinion.

Then, you try to chastise me by inferring that I need to stop being so severe by demanding such objectivity.

You ignored the fact that the comment that brought me in was the fact that you accused (was it Grand?) of "Truth seems to be an irrelevant factor [for you]."

You started by accusing an opponent of refusing truth. You ended by refusing truth, once again escaping to relativity, and telling me to stop being such a stickler for truth.

You are a hypocrite. You want to wield truth against people when you think you have it, but escape its reality when it's shown you don't.

So, I have some advise for you. If you want to go through life as a relativist, that's cool. But you need to be a bit less of a hypocrite about it, and stop thinking that your relativity is the platform to tell Trump and everyone else how wrong they are. You should stop using your relativity as an escape pod when you're not quite as smart as you thought you were, and lead with it instead.

Now, note that I'm perfectly happy to converse and get along famously with people I radically disagree with. But when you saunter in, seeking to inform everyone else of just how the world is, while invariably retreating to some form of "it's all opinion anyway", don't be surprised when someone tells you what an idiot you look like.

And it's doesn't help when you insult someone for taking the time to show it.
 
Enough of the pleasantries.

Word on the street is that Problem Child was handed a portfolio in his meeting on adoption policy.

Mueller's boomhammer is coming, countrymen.
 
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That's a pretty intelligent response, Burger. But I tend to disagree with it because "We the people..." has never been stronger than it is right now because of the Internet. And it's a ball "We the people..." fumble day after day after day.

It also shows how twisted and sick people can be. The internet is a double edged sword like most things.
 
Mueller is a fraud also VP.

This is one of the most spineless posts I've ever seen, proving the measure of you as a man.

It's doubly spineless:

1. It cast aspersions on Mueller, assuming he is biased, with absolutely no proof.

2. In the unlikely event he clears Donny and his gang, you have already degraded his character and dug your grave.
 
This is one of the most spineless posts I've ever seen, proving the measure of you as a man.

It's doubly spineless:

1. It cast aspersions on Mueller, assuming he is biased, with absolutely no proof.

2. In the unlikely event he clears Donny and his gang, you have already degraded his character and dug your grave.

He and Comey are best friends, just look at the legal team he's assembled . No bias my ass
 

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