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volfanjustin said:
Just remember the new standard your side has set and how your side treats a fairly elected President, it will come back to bite you all one day. I didn’t think it could get any worse how you all treated GWB but this is a new low even for democrats
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Yep. Even if they elected Billy Graham (I know he’s dead...) next time around I think it’s fair game to get a special prosecutor appointed to investigate ethics and sex crimes. Why not, let’s make our own ish up!!
 
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ajvol01 said:
You avoided my question.
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No, I didn't. The answer isn't one or the other. The investigation is about both the criminal activity (which made it possible) and politics (tainting Trump enough to defeat him in 2020). Politics aside, there couldn't be an over year long special counsel investigation without the wholesale number of conflicts of interest, lies to federal agents and generally suspicious activity which resulted from Trump surrounding himself with dishonest people (while also being dishonest himself - he wrote the narrative that the June 9, 2016 Trump Tower meeting was about Russian adoptions. He has since admitted it was about obtaining dirt on Hillary Clinton).
 
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zeppelin128 said:
Don't underestimate the Red Hats. Cult gonna act like a cult. Trump will get a pass on everything by his base. It has already happened, and will continue.
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Has nothing to do with a cult my man , I find it amusing you throw around words like cult , but ignore that it the left has leaders openly supporting socialism , Antifa and ms13 . By the way ... I don’t think “ red hat” has the degrotory effect you want it to have on people . From what I’ve seen , after Hillary called half the country Deplorables, people wear that red hat thing as well like a trophy .
 
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volfanjustin said:
Just remember the new standard your side has set and how your side treats a fairly elected President, it will come back to bite you all one day. I didn’t think it could get any worse how you all treated GWB but this is a new low even for democrats
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Stop with that “your side is so bad” nonsense. Both parties have ripped the other side every time the opposition party is in the White House. Many on this forum have called Obama homosexual, not born in this country, and a secret Muslim Manchuria candidate. All of that is beyond stupid. The Dems are doing the same to trump. Show us his taxes, he’s a Russian plant, he likes to be peed on.....all equally stupid. And do you see the similarities of the attacks?
 
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volfanhill said:
Stop with that “your side is so bad” nonsense. Both parties have ripped the other side every time the opposition party is in the White House. Many on this forum have called Obama homosexual, not born in this country, and a secret Muslim Manchuria candidate. All of that is beyond stupid. The Dems are doing the same to trump. Show us his taxes, he’s a Russian plant, he likes to be peed on.....all equally stupid. And do you see the similarities of the attacks?
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Saying Barry is a Muslims isn’t the same as trying to get a President locked up, impeached and calling for violence against him and his supporters. Both sides bash the other, but one side is violent and anti what we have always stood for, screw them all.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Trump tweets this morning and he is lashing out at Cohen, expressing sympathy to Manafort for not "breaking."

Cohen is cooperating and has cut his deal. There is no point in pardoning him. Manafort is perched to do so, but hasn't yet, and so its Manafort he encourages to stay strong.

Gee, wonder why.
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Cohens crooked lawyer told him to plead guilty of 2 offenses that aren’t offenses. Is that how lawyers work? Oh nvm, you don’t know.
 
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volfanhill said:
Stop with that “your side is so bad” nonsense. Both parties have ripped the other side every time the opposition party is in the White House. Many on this forum have called Obama homosexual, not born in this country, and a secret Muslim Manchuria candidate. All of that is beyond stupid. The Dems are doing the same to trump. Show us his taxes, he’s a Russian plant, he likes to be peed on.....all equally stupid. And do you see the similarities of the attacks?
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Many on this forum are right about Obama .
 
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You know I’m not sure where to put this and I don’t believe it deserves it’s own thread but can we all come together as we set here tonight watching the talking heads and say enough is enough!!!!

Stop with all the makeup !!! It’s bad enough that we have to see all the host this way but now the politicians are doing it too!!! And someone, anyone please tell Tom Fetton to stop using lipstick.
 
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#17,164
volfanjustin said:
Saying Barry is a Muslims isn’t the same as trying to get a President locked up, impeached and calling for violence against him and his supporters. Both sides bash the other, but one side is violent and anti what we have always stood for, screw them all.
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Both sides are violent. See the death of Heather Heyer.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
I think Trump will be impeached by the House... but obviously won't be removed from office by the Senate. Any way you look at it, his re-election bid is looking shaky and defeating him in 2020 really is the whole point anyway.
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I think you seriously underestimate how little the average voter cares about this
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I think you seriously underestimate how little the average voter cares about this
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No, I don't. I just understand how close the 2016 election was and how few votes that the Democrats will actually need to flip in 2020. Most of the uninformed people on this forum believe the Trump spin that he won a landslide but in reality, he won the 2016 election by 104,000 votes spread across 3 swing states:

Pennsylvania - Trump won by 68,000
Michigan - Trump won by 12,000
Wisconsin - Trump won by 24,000

If you take those 3 states away from Trump and give them to Hillary, she wins. It's not the "average voter" the Democrats need to reach. They just need to appeal to a small percentage of Independents who didn't turn out in 2016 for Clinton.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
No, I don't. I just understand how close the 2016 election was and how few votes that the Democrats will actually need to flip in 2020. Most of the uninformed people on this forum believe the Trump spin that he won a landslide but in reality, he won the 2016 election by 104,000 votes spread across 3 swing states:

Pennsylvania - Trump won by 68,000
Michigan - Trump won by 12,000
Wisconsin - Trump won by 24,000

If you take those 3 states away from Trump and give them to Hillary, she wins. It's not the "average voter" the democrats need to reach. They just need to appeal to a small percentage of independents who didn't turn out in 2016.
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If you take those 3 states away haha. If Tennessee had scored 40 more points they would have beat Alabama
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
No, I don't. I just understand how close the 2016 election was and how few votes that the Democrats will actually need to flip in 2020. Most of the uninformed people on this forum believe the Trump spin that he won a landslide but in reality, he won the 2016 election by 104,000 votes spread across 3 swing states:

Pennsylvania - Trump won by 68,000
Michigan - Trump won by 12,000
Wisconsin - Trump won by 24,000

If you take those 3 states away from Trump and give them to Hillary, she wins. It's not the "average voter" the Democrats need to reach. They just need to appeal to a small percentage of Independents who didn't turn out in 2016 for Clinton.
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If yall nominate another dud, it will not be a foregone conclusion Trump loses.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Check the electoral college map results of every Presidential election since 1992 and tell me if I was right or wrong about those 3 states normally going to the Democratic candidate.
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At the end of the day, it's not how...…... it's how many. Trump had more of what counted, so Hillary stumbles through the woods, trying to find herself while Trump does a great job of righting the ship.
 
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