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lawgator1 said:
The interesting thing about that argument is that it does not deny that Trump may have colluded with the Russians or obstructed justice. That is, even if you were right that the Dems are mad that they lost when they thought they would win, that would not diminish the significance of either collusion or obstruction. That is to say, Trump having won does not excuse either collusion or obstruction.

By all accounts, there are written questions now being answered. Original reporting was that the questions were just about collusion. Since then, however, reporting is that there are also written questions about obstruction, but that the Trump legal team is simply not going to answer those.

Now why would that be, and on what grounds? This may be the defense we heard earlier this year -- that Trump is legally entitled to obstruct in the form that he has, i.e. fire people and replace them with loyalists. Basically, that his right to hire who he wants supersedes the authority of the investigation. The problem with that argument, of course, is that ignores the why, i.e. why fire and replace with a loyalist?

What this is about is conspiracy tied to Roger Stone. Clearly, there is strong evidence that he and his associate were in contact with Wikileaks and knew in advance of the release of emails. The question is going to be, how much did Trump's team know about that, and specifically who knew? The fact is, Trump, Jr. is almost certainly facing an indictment at this point for perjury, having lied about all of that in the past, when it is clear that he was the conduit for information about it.

Who did he share that with? Manafort? Kush? Donnie, himself?
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There was no collusion or obstruction, that is all part of the hissy fit your side is still pitching.
 
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TN Ribs said:
How convenient. Trump has professed his innocence, I don't know, hundreds of times. If he is truly innocent of collusion or obstruction, let the damn investigation play out because he's got nothing to worry about. All this "witch hunt" and "hoax" stuff just makes him look guilty. In fact, if the Mueller report comes out and he finds that Trump did nothing wrong, it virtually guarantees that Trump gets reelected.
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That's why Trey Gowdy once loudly proclaimed to Trump to "Quit acting guilty!"
 
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luthervol said:
Nope. But you go right along telling yourself that. I do actually believe that internally, you know better.
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BS Luther and you know it. So far he has done nothing detrimental to the country, he has made no moves to roll back civil rights, hasn't started any new wars so why continue the hissy fit?
 
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C-south said:
Didn’t Obama rub shoulders with him?
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There may be a slight difference between rubbing shoulders with an individual and bringing them into your white house as your right hand man and top strategist......just a tad.

And think of how you guys reacted to the shoulder rubbing, now just imagine if Obama had made Farrakhan what Trump made Bannon. lol.........but I would have joined you guys in the outrage (that's the difference)
 
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luthervol said:
There me be a slight difference between rubbing shoulders with an individual and bringing them into your white house as your right hand man and top strategist......just a tad.

And think of how you guys reacted to the shoulder rubbing, now just imagine if Obama had made Farrakhan what Trump made Bannon. lol.........but I would have joined you guys in the outrage (that's the difference)
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You’re comparing Bannon to Farrakhan? Lol
 
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luthervol said:
There me be a slight difference between rubbing shoulders with an individual and bringing them into your white house as your right hand man and top strategist......just a tad.

And think of how you guys reacted to the shoulder rubbing, now just imagine if Obama had made Farrakhan what Trump made Bannon. lol.........but I would have joined you guys in the outrage (that's the difference)
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Why would he do that , Farrakhan is a racist pig that needs to be disavowed by everyone . You want to check the Dems list to see who has done that and who didn’t ?
 
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US preparing to prosecute Assange: report

The Department of Justice is preparing to prosecute Wikileaks founder Julian Assange and hope to try him in a U.S. courtroom, people familiar with the matter told The Wall Street Journal.

Prosecutors have reportedly been discussing different charges to level against Assange and how to bring him back to the U.S. Ecuador granted him asylum in 2012 and he has been living in that country’s London embassy ever since.
 
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