TrumPutinGate

[Mick]

Did you read that piece?



This is exactly the kind of garbage that passes for "news" nowadays.

Anonymous leaks with alleged "private criticism" of Wray by Trump.

Have you seen any of Trump's tweets directed at Jeff Sessions?

Give me a break. This is #FakeNewsMedia.

The Q thread called looking for their village idiot. You better get back.

 

[evillawyer]

How much has been spent on Trump golfing trips?

Also, the cost figure fails to account for manafort's asset forfeitures

 

[Mick]

Also, the cost figure fails to account for manafort's asset forfeitures

The government will own Trump Tower before it's over.

 

[volfanjustin]

I am sure you left wing loons were also concerned with barry's golfing

 

[BowlBrother85]

So now it's also collusion with wikileaks, HAHAHA. Anyone else you want to throw in there? If true, first who the hell cares? second how is that illegal?

Collusion with WikiLeaks obviously means collusion with Russia, since our intelligence agencies have concluded that they received the stolen documents from Russian agents. I assumed you could connect two dots yourself.... and who cares? I think Mueller cares. This report is not going to be pretty for the Trump team. There was collusion.

 

[volfanjustin]

The government will own Trump Tower before it's over.

You don't believe that

 

[carlos86]

I am sure you left wing loons were also concerned with barry's golfing

Trumps been golfing 327 times so far. Obama went golfing 306 times in a 8 year period.

 

[volfanjustin]

Collusion with WikiLeaks obviously means collusion with Russia, since our intelligence agencies have concluded that they received the stolen documents from Russian agents. I assumed you could connect two dots yourself.... and who cares? I think Mueller cares. This report is not going to be pretty for the Trump team. There was collusion.

The only ones that care are you and your fellow far left wing friends.

 

[volfanjustin]

Trumps been golfing 327 times so far. Obama went golfing 306 times in a 8 year period.

Cool

 

[Hunerwadel]

I am sure you left wing loons were also concerned with barry's golfing

I was, I thought he should have hired a swing coach.

 

[1972 Grad]

Trumps been golfing 327 times so far. Obama went golfing 306 times in a 8 year period.

That is why he can beat Obama's ass on the golf course. Well, that and the fact Obama swings like a girl.

 

[evillawyer]

Trumps been golfing 327 times so far. Obama went golfing 306 times in a 8 year period.

Ah man, good memories here. Trump is always a man of his word

 

[1972 Grad]

I was, I thought he should have hired a swing coach.

Humpin noodle, you seem to be awfully concerned with Trump's golf career.

 

[1972 Grad]

Ah man, good memories here. Trump is always a man of his word

If you like your doctor...…..

 

[Velo Vol]

I am sure you left wing loons were also concerned with barry's golfing

Point being objections to Mueller have nothing to do with money. The real objections are to what he is investigating.

 

[volfanjustin]

I was, I thought he should have hired a swing coach.

I was all in favor of him golfing more

 

[volfanjustin]

Point being objections to Mueller have nothing to do with money. The real objections are to what he is investigating.

It has to do with wasting millions and prosecuting people for stuff they done 20 years ago and forgetting about an email

 

[Weezer]

You are a contradiction of intelligence. Oh I dislike both candidates but Hillary is "historically the worst". We get it, you are a Redhatter that didn't vote for Trump. Trump is by far the worst President I have ever seen. Hillary is not our president. If trying to belittle her and caller her names makes you fell better about Trump, you are the problem.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at your lack of reading comprehension. Go back and read the discussion I had with Luther and let it sink in. America wasn't given a good choice in 2016. If you believe Trump or Hillary either one was a good choice, then you're even dumber than I thought, not that I credit you with much intelligence to begin with.

 

[RockyTop85]

This looks like good news for Trump on its face. It may be.

On the other hand, Mueller and his team are not stupid, No matter how badly the Trumpists want to believe he’s incompetent. Also, I don’t think he will indict a sitting president without some really solid footing.




Honestly, I think he’s FOS.

I think what he is saying is this:

1. Mueller says Manafort lied.
2. Manafort says he didn’t lie.
3. Judge decides whether he lied or not which requires judge to make other findings.
4. Mueller uses judges findings against trump.

That’s not really a thing in criminal prosecutions and the way he’s talking about using it doesn’t make sense in civil cases, either.

Typically, to do that, Trump would have to be a party to the case (indicted) and would have to have an opportunity to put on proof in the hearing where the findings are made.

All that said, I am COMPLETELY ignorant of a lot of federal procedure, especially in conspiracy cases, and as I’ve never represented anyone with executive privilege, I’ve never bothered to learn that law either.

My thought is that this may be a way to ratchet up the political cost for senate republicans. I’m wondering if Manafort’s answers and Trump’s written responses are not consistent. Put Trump on trial by proxy. Make Manafort prove Trump lied in his answers. Then send it all to congress.

Paul Manafort's Nonstop Lying May Have Done Robert Mueller A Huge Favor | HuffPost

Not a fan of Huffington Post but they either read VN or we independently came to the same conclusion.

 

[Velo Vol]

It has to do with wasting millions and prosecuting people for stuff they done 20 years ago and forgetting about an email

Sure, Trump has incessantly been complaining about the Mueller investigation for two years because he's really concerned about Manafort being charged with tax fraud. So very unfair!

 

[volfanjustin]

Sure, Trump has incessantly been complaining about the Mueller investigation for two years because he's really concerned about Manafort being charged with tax fraud. So very unfair!

It's a complete waste of time and he should have never been hired. But since he was he should have been given a time table and told to stay in his lane, you can't charge someone for not paying a parking ticket in 1972 in hopes they flip on the President.

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Point being objections to Mueller have nothing to do with money. The real objections are to what he is investigating.

What is he really investigating?

 

[RockyTop85]

It's a complete waste of time and he should have never been hired. But since he was he should have been given a time table and told to stay in his lane, you can't charge someone for not paying a parking ticket in 1972 in hopes they flip on the President.

You gonna enforce the same rules on the US Attorneys trying to prosecute MS13?

 

[hog88]

Starr investigation ring any bells? 6 + years and nothing to show for it.

Nothing? A governor, the 3rd ranking person at the state department and several others went to prison for actual crimes. That isn’t nothing.

 

[ajvol01]

Collusion with WikiLeaks obviously means collusion with Russia, since our intelligence agencies have concluded that they received the stolen documents from Russian agents. I assumed you could connect two dots yourself.... and who cares? I think Mueller cares. This report is not going to be pretty for the Trump team. There was collusion.

This was completely overblown and misrepresented by the media. The 17 intelligence/government agencies number was garbage.

Not convinced at all. Where's the beef?