TrumPutinGate

[golfballs]

Again, why the lying to Congress?

You serious? Did you actually read this?

 

[AirVol]

 

[hog88]

Pfft, spare me your armchair lecture on patriotism, I've served. I've also seen more outrage over those four by the right than I've seen over the totality of the kids that have been gunned down in American schools. All four of those killed in Benghazi Libya KNEW sh*t could kick off at any time and they were in harm's way, it's a risk they accepted. It's tragic, nevertheless that they were killed but please don't pretend that those four weren't drug through D.C. simply and purely for political expediency.

Spare us your faux outrage over the kids gunned down in schools until you can point us to the post where you were outraged over inner city kids gunned downed on the street corner in far greater numbers.

There must be something in the water down in FL that turns normal people into hypocritical trolls.

 

[AirVol]

 

[golfballs]

Again, why the lying to Congress?

Did you guys catch the correction on this article?

Another day, another piece of fake news that you fools fall for. Even Septic! Sad!

 

[luthervol]

Ok then as long as we are all on the same page here Luther ... lying to Congress is not a big deal and only the ones that draw the short straw will be punished for it , others that do it will just be allowed to do it .

Every lie to congress is bad.
Every lie to congress is NOWHERE equally bad.

 

[AirVol]

 

[luthervol]

Good question. Why did the State Department, of which she was the head, deny additional security requests in an area where it was vitally needed? Why did they decide it was important to keep a low profile rather than protect American citizens? I'm not sure an adequate answer has ever been provided.

It certainly wasn't with the intent of them being murdered.

 

[AirVol]

It certainly wasn't with the intent of them being murdered.

BS

You don’t attack for 13 hours and no one is intended to get killed.

 

[Weezer]

It certainly wasn't with the intent of them being murdered.

What matters more, her intent or the consequences of her actions, or in this case, inaction.

 

[luthervol]

What was it you said? "None of these yahoos g.a.s." Speaking for myself, you're wrong. You can take your cynical horse **** and shove it up your ass. I'm not speaking for anyone but myself, but I did and still do give a ****. And yes, I give a **** about school shootings as well. But back to Benghazi, Hillary Clinton and the state department she led left those men with their asses hanging out and insufficient protection. You know that's ****ing true, but go ahead and continue your bull **** deflection.

How many people serving abroad have been killed due to poor decision making by their superiors? It happens. It's always sad and unfortunate. Nobody in a position of power has ever batted 1000 on decision making. In hindsight, Clinton, for whatever reason, made the wrong decision. The right has spent years harping on it for no reason other than to demonize Clinton. They succeeded, much to the shame of the gullible.

 

[luthervol]

Between Hillary and Donald, there was no good option. Dems rigged their primaries for Hillary, yet not a single Dem has raised outrage over it? Why?

That may be because we don't completely buy the "rigged" angle that right continuously parrots.

 

[luthervol]

Wow that could be the biggest down play statement I’ve seen this year on politics! Congrats well done!

It's only the right wing that buys into the "rigged" talking points.

 

[luthervol]

You sound even more unhinged than usual. Everything OK?

Things are going great. Moved from high school football to basketball and that's been a refreshing change. Daughter graduates in a couple of weeks. And it's the holiday season. Thanks for the concern.

 

[Weezer]

How many people serving abroad have been killed due to poor decision making by their superiors? It happens. It's always sad and unfortunate. Nobody in a position of power has ever batted 1000 on decision making. In hindsight, Clinton, for whatever reason, made the wrong decision. The right has spent years harping on it for no reason other than to demonize Clinton. They succeeded, much to the shame of the gullible.

Military leaders have to account for their actions. They are held responsible for incompetence, especially when their incompetence costs lives. Was Hillary held responsible? The answer is no.

 

[Weezer]

That may be because we don't completely buy the "rigged" angle that right continuously parrots.

Originated from the left. Even Warren claimed it to be so.

 

[luthervol]

What matters more, her intent or the consequences of her actions, or in this case, inaction.

That's true of every poor decision in history. This is no different.

 

[luthervol]

Military leaders have to account for their actions. They are held responsible for incompetence, especially when their incompetence costs lives. Was Hillary held responsible? The answer is no.

She's been through multiple investigations. More than any military leader whose poor decision led to four deaths. The propagandized bastardization of the incident was one of many single things that cost her the election. Again, a higher price than any military leader has ever paid for a poor decision that cost four lives.

 

[Weezer]

That's true of every poor decision in history. This is no different.

So not only do you think she should get a pass for her poor decision making, you think she should have been rewarded by making her POTUS? You know that's insane, right?

 

[luthervol]

So not only do you think she should get a pass for her poor decision making, you think she should have been rewarded by making her POTUS? You know that's insane, right?

Get a pass? Hardly. She's paid far more for that decision than anyone else would have. No one ever said reward her. That's like saying we rewarded Trump with the presidency because he said he could grab women by their pu$$y. You know that's insane, right?

 

[Weezer]

She's been through multiple investigations. More than any military leader whose poor decision led to four deaths. The propagandized bastardization of the incident was one of many single things that cost her the election. Again, a higher price than any military leader has ever paid for a poor decision that cost four lives.

LOL! A higher price than any military leader has paid? Luther, that's idiotic.

Luther, I know you actually believe your whole Republican propaganda campaign against Hillary conspiracy theory, but have you ever questioned how she continues to end up in scandal after scandal? The Republicans aren't competent enough to have set her up that many times. The woman is corrupt. Ignore the "D" next to her name and see her for what she is.

 

[Weezer]

Get a pass? Hardly. She's paid far more for that decision than anyone else would have. No one ever said reward her. That's like saying we rewarded Trump with the presidency because he said he could grab women by their pu$$y. You know that's insane, right?

Insane that Trump's President? I don't totally disagree. I've told you before, neither he nor Hillary should have been serious candidates IMO.

And she's paid jack squat for that decision. Unless of course you're claiming that's why she lost and not "collusion".

 

[luthervol]

LOL! A higher price than any military leader has paid? Luther, that's idiotic.

Luther, I know you actually believe your whole Republican propaganda campaign against Hillary conspiracy theory, but have you ever questioned how she continues to end up in scandal after scandal? The Republicans aren't competent enough to have set her up that many times. The woman is corrupt. Ignore the "D" next to her name and see her for what she is.

Repubs. have spent 25 years trying their damnedest to pin something on Hillary. Take the collusion "witch hunt" and multiply it by 20 and you will come close to the effort expended on demonizing Hillary.

 

[luthervol]

Insane that Trump's President? I don't totally disagree. I've told you before, neither he nor Hillary should have been serious candidates IMO.

And she's paid jack squat for that decision. Unless of course you're claiming that's why she lost and not "collusion".

I'm claiming it is one of multiple single individual things that cost her the election.
Without Benghazi, collusion alone wouldn't have been enough to cost her.
Without collusion, Benghazi alone wouldn't have been enough to cost her.

 

[Weezer]

Repubs. have spent 25 years trying their damnedest to pin something on Hillary. Take the collusion "witch hunt" and multiply it by 20 and you will come close to the effort expended on demonizing Hillary.

Hillary has been corrupt since her days as a young attorney but the Republicans have failed to pin anything on her despite her giving them chance after chance after chance. No one has ever had to "demonize" her. She does it all to herself. I know you feel the need to desperately defend any and every Democrat, but guess what, corruption happens in both parties, not just the Republicans. The Democratic Party as a whole would be better off if they distanced themselves from Hillary Clinton.