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#21,726
Hunerwadel said:
The FBI are not corrupt. The bunch in the WH now and Fox News want you to believe they are though. Some individuals no doubt, are. But the Agency.....no. And certainly not enough to get together and get an investigation of the President going without cause.
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The FBI leadership has been corrupt since Hoover. Nobody rises to the top of an organization like the FBI without being corrupt.
 
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A little lunch time op-ed reading from Joe Di

The brazen plot against Trump by the Obama-era FBI and DOJ continues, enabled by a complicit media

A stench has been emanating from the J. Edgar Hoover Building (FBI headquarters) for over two years. It landed Saturday on the front page of the New York Times in an article citing “former law enforcement officials” claiming they had to deal with “explosive implications” that President Donald Trump was “knowingly” or “unwittingly” working for Russia. Thus, the story goes, there was a basis to begin the Russia collusion investigation.

In fact, “The Gray Lady” was covering the derrieres of the Obama administration officials involved in the cabal to frame Trump, who now fear an imminent Special Counsel finding that during the 2016 campaign there was no collusion between Trump and the Russians. The article is intended to convey the following message: Even though there was no evidence to support the allegations, those making the decision to investigate Trump did so in good faith.
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Matt2496 said:
They as a whole certainly aren't corrupt. No reasonable human being has tried to insinuate that.

Just the few at the top of the ladder in 2016-2017 like the McCabes, Comeys, Strzok's, etc.
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CNN doesn't tell him about those folks so it's likely he is now searching their names to learn who they are.
 
#21,729
#21,729
Matt2496 said:
Do yall realize the FBI tried investigated a sitting President for what is essentially treason with no evidence to back it up other than Comey, one of their own, being fired?

Let that sink in for a minute.

Insane times we live in.
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None of us here know what evidence or information the FBI may have had to open an investigation. Also the investigation may not be over or it could now be in Muellers hands.
 
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hog88 said:
Who said he's worked hard at it?
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/14/politics/trump-russia-mueller/index.html

These two paragraphs, from The Washington Post's Greg Miller, are staggering stuff:
"President Trump has gone to extraordinary lengths to conceal details of his conversations with Russian President Vladimir Putin, including on at least one occasion taking possession of the notes of his own interpreter and instructing the linguist not to discuss what had transpired with other administration officials, current and former U.S. officials said....
"The constraints that Trump imposed are part of a broader pattern by the president of shielding his communications with Putin from public scrutiny and preventing even high-ranking officials in his own administration from fully knowing what he has told one of the United States' main adversaries."
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He personally took the notes of his own interpreter and he ordered him/her not to discuss what was said to any government officials.

WTF????

Now, Trump knows at the time that this is an issue and there are suspicions. Why, given that, would he have ensured no record of a meeting with Putin? To the point of taking the notes and swearing the translator to secrecy?

There is only one explanation I can think of.....
 
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lawgator1 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/14/politics/trump-russia-mueller/index.html




He personally took the notes of his own interpreter and he ordered him/her not to discuss what was said to any government officials.

WTF????

Now, Trump knows at the time that this is an issue and there are suspicions. Why, given that, would he have ensured no record of a meeting with Putin? To the point of taking the notes and swearing the translator to secrecy?

There is only one explanation I can think of.....
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Why can't you just wait till the Mueller report comes out?
 
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#21,732
Matt2496 said:
Do yall realize the FBI tried investigated a sitting President for what is essentially treason with no evidence to back it up other than Comey, one of their own, being fired?

Let that sink in for a minute.

Insane times we live in.
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This is the Tucker Carlson line from last week: the investigation was retaliation for firing Comey. Yeah, good luck with that theory. (Hint: it is bogus because there was already investigation into meddling, investigation into Flynn, and the possibility of Trump as coopted by Russia had been discussed for quite some time, all before Comey was fired.)
 
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#21,733
lawgator1 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/14/politics/trump-russia-mueller/index.html




He personally took the notes of his own interpreter and he ordered him/her not to discuss what was said to any government officials.

WTF????

Now, Trump knows at the time that this is an issue and there are suspicions. Why, given that, would he have ensured no record of a meeting with Putin? To the point of taking the notes and swearing the translator to secrecy?

There is only one explanation I can think of.....
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That Obama is on Vlads payroll?
 
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#21,734
Matt2496 said:
Why can't you just wait till the Mueller report comes out?
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I can. I'm just saying, I cannot currently think of a reason for him to go to such lengths to keep anyone from learning what was said unless it was really bad.

I hope the Dems subpoena the translator, next.
 
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#21,735
Hunerwadel said:
None of us here know what evidence or information the FBI may have had to open an investigation. Also the investigation may not be over or it could now be in Muellers hands.
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If there is evidence that Trump is being controlled, working with or conspiring with Putin and The Muell hasn't attempted to remove him from office does that make Mully a traitor?
 
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lawgator1 said:
https://www.cnn.com/2019/01/14/politics/trump-russia-mueller/index.html




He personally took the notes of his own interpreter and he ordered him/her not to discuss what was said to any government officials.

WTF????

Now, Trump knows at the time that this is an issue and there are suspicions. Why, given that, would he have ensured no record of a meeting with Putin? To the point of taking the notes and swearing the translator to secrecy?

There is only one explanation I can think of.....
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How much effort would any of that take?

You think he's the first POTUS to do something like that?
 
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hog88 said:
If there is evidence that Trump is being controlled, working with or conspiring with Putin and The Muell hasn't attempted to remove him from office does that make Mully a traitor?
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IKR. If there was a sitting President knowingly working on behalf of the Russian government and Mueller has all the goods, why has he (Mueller) waited so long? Wouldn't leaving him in office for this long be a major breach to national security?
 
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VolStrom said:
That Obama is on Vlads payroll?
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I don't believe he is some recruited, trained agent.

I think he owed them a lot of money and considered themselves friends, that he did not realize until too late that they were setting up to own him and/or to have the goods on him so as to manipulate him. They offered to help, he and his folks promised in return to go easy on sanctions and help them out in return.

He made some deals. He found out as time went on what that meant and he was threatened with exposure as either a blow hard ignoramus, or a greedy SOB who traded on position for personal enrichment or squelching of bad info on him.

Take your pick on the motivation, they are both disqualifying for POTUS because of the effect.
 
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#21,739
hog88 said:
If there is evidence that Trump is being controlled, working with or conspiring with Putin and The Muell hasn't attempted to remove him from office does that make Mully a traitor?
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The consequences are building by the minute. Mueller knows that Trump works for the Kremlin and for two years he's been hiding it. Our democracy is toast.
 
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hog88 said:
How much effort would any of that take?

You think he's the first POTUS to do something like that?
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Personally confiscate the notes of his interpreter and make the interpreter promise to not tell anyone, including within our own government, what he and Putin said? During a time where people are questioning your loyalties?

I think that is a wee bit unusual, yes.
 
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lawgator1 said:
This is the Tucker Carlson line from last week: the investigation was retaliation for firing Comey. Yeah, good luck with that theory. (Hint: it is bogus because there was already investigation into meddling, investigation into Flynn, and the possibility of Trump as coopted by Russia had been discussed for quite some time, all before Comey was fired.)
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F.B.I. Opened Inquiry Into Whether Trump Was Secretly Working on Behalf of Russia

"But the president’s activities before and after Mr. Comey’s firing in May 2017, particularly two instances in which Mr. Trump tied the Comey dismissal to the Russia investigation, helped prompt the counterintelligence aspect of the inquiry, the people said."
 
#21,742
#21,742
lawgator1 said:
I don't believe he is some recruited, trained agent.

I think he owed them a lot of money and considered themselves friends, that he did not realize until too late that they were setting up to own him and/or to have the goods on him so as to manipulate him. They offered to help, he and his folks promised in return to go easy on sanctions and help them out in return.

He made some deals. He found out as time went on what that meant and he was threatened with exposure as either a blow hard ignoramus, or a greedy SOB who traded on position for personal enrichment or squelching of bad info on him.

Take your pick on the motivation, they are both disqualifying for POTUS because of the effect.
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It would take a forensic accountant a matter of days to find out who Trump is indebted to, not years. The rest of you post is rubbish, you can't point to one single action he has taken.
 
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Obama allowed Russia's annexation of Crimea and Ukraine. Obama allowed the Russians to move into Syria.

Obama lied to Congress and the American people about funneling billions of dollars to a foreign adversary (Iran).

Obama was caught on a hot mic telling the Russian PM that he would allow more flexibility.

Under the Obama administration, the elections were hacked and he gave a stand-down order to allow the Russians to infiltrate the DNC.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Personally confiscate the notes of his interpreter and make the interpreter promise to not tell anyone, including within our own government, what he and Putin said? During a time where people are questioning your loyalties?

I think that is a wee bit unusual, yes.
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I would bet this has happened many, many times over the years.
 
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#21,746
hog88 said:
It would take a forensic accountant a matter of days to find out who Trump is indebted to, not years. The rest of you post is rubbish, you can't point to one single action he has taken.
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Come on Hog. LG likes to inflame people and emotions on VN and is pretty much a pimple on the sites ass. He's bored and has nothing better to do and this site gives him mental stimulus to get out of bed in a really crappy "adult" only living area in Florida.
 
#21,750
#21,750
Hunerwadel said:
The FBI are not corrupt. The bunch in the WH now and Fox News want you to believe they are though. Some individuals no doubt, are. But the Agency.....no. And certainly not enough to get together and get an investigation of the President going without cause.
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Just the ones in leadership positions.
 
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