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evillawyer said:
Let's accept, arguendo, that WaPo is biased. Hell, you can even believe they're really supercalifragilisticexpialidocious bias. WaPo reports that X, where X is some factual statement about what Trump said or did. Isn't it the case that X is or is not true? So, regardless of how biased they are, it's still the case that they're either getting their factual reporting right or wrong. I'm simply asking you to show me where they've been wrong in their factual reporting to the point where they're not to be considered credible. Can you do that?
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You have made my point. So how is it that these news outlets and reporters can get different reports. And info from the same event? Lets say Trump says or does something. Reporters from Fox, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo and others report on it. Why is it that many times there are conflicting reports? If you and I were attending a Trump address and heard him say something, whats the likelihood that our recollection of his words would differ?

Its bias. News out,ets and reporters report what will enhance their bias. Again, if you dont believe it exists then thats on you. I personally dont believe any news outlet other than BBC and even then I am skeptical.
 
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Velo Vol said:
A fair criticism is the extent to which anonymous sources are being used these days. No one is held responsible when information is wrong.
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Last night I posted a Fresh Air interview that Terry Gross did with Greg Miller of the WaPo, who broke the Michael Flynn story that led to his resignation and the this weekend's story about Trump's conversations with Putin, that specifically addressed the use of anonymous sources and how WaPo vets these stories prior to publication. It's worth a listen.
 
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evillawyer said:
Last night I posted a Fresh Air interview that Terry Gross did with Greg Miller of the WaPo, who broke the Michael Flynn story that led to his resignation and the this weekend's story about Trump's conversations with Putin, that specifically addressed the use of anonymous sources and how WaPo vets these stories prior to publication. It's worth a listen.
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Starts at the 27:30 point

 
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There are some areas that WaPo has excellent reporting they do have some good staff... until it gets even remotely close to the Trump admin. There is obvious bias between Bezos/WaPo and Trump. And yeah I believe there’s a Bezos agenda... nor do I believe he had to push very hard.
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
You have made my point. So how is it that these news outlets and reporters can get different reports. And info from the same event? Lets say Trump says or does something. Reporters from Fox, MSNBC, NYT, WaPo and others report on it. Why is it that many times there are conflicting reports?
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Reporters recounting short, on-the-record comments (that for some reason weren't recorded)?

I don't think there's that much variation on direct quotes.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Yeah... probably smart. I don't need ND40 stalking me.
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Oh hell no. Ok cupcake I want you to think back. Way back...when your dumbass posted personal info that could out you and be used by somebody against you. Myself and @Orange_Crush implored that you take that crap down. Don’t even try that BS shade.
 
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evillawyer said:
Starts at the 27:30 point
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Guy says their track record has been good, and I assume he's been paying close attention.

I just know that a few people in the White House have a real incentive for people to distrust WaPo/NYT. And they can very easily leak false information.
 
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This is so polarizing, I'd question Mueller's integrity if it's anti-Trump.
If it comes out Trump is clean, the liberal media will ignore it and let it fall into the cracks as much as possible.
 
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shotgun83 said:
This is so polarizing, I'd question Mueller's integrity if it's anti-Trump.
If it comes out Trump is clean, the liberal media will ignore it and let it fall into the cracks as much as possible.
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That's interesting. If you don't like the result, you question Mueller's integrity. If you do like the result, you will embrace it.

I'm good with either result.
 
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lawgator1 said:
That's interesting. If you don't like the result, you question Mueller's integrity. If you do like the result, you will embrace it.

I'm good with either result.
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I know that seems backwards, but I want honesty. The hate coming from the Democrats or the unbiased opinions can't be ignored. He's only somewhat embraced by Republicans because the Democrats are so hard against him. How would you account for the unbias???
 
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Hunerwadel said:
...................and I never said Mexico would pay for the wall.
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If only somebody would write a parable about why you shouldn't lie constantly and how that may affect whether people believe you later on. Maybe we could use a boy and a wolf for that parable. Just spitballing here.
 
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shotgun83 said:
I know that seems backwards, but I want honesty. The hate coming from the Democrats or the unbiased opinions can't be ignored. He's only somewhat embraced by Republicans because the Democrats are so hard against him. How would you account for the unbias???
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Easy, follow the facts.

I think we will get a preview of some of them with Cohen's testimony. But, I'm not sure how linked in he was to Russia dealings other than the Trump Tower project he lied about to Congress. The reason it seems like it might be really important -- and this i imagine will be among the first questions -- is that in some of the charging documents it is stated that before offering that perjurious testimony Cohen coordinated it with someone at the WH. We do not know who.

Whoever that person might be is at grave risk for indictment. And if it was Trump, himself, or someone working at Trump's direction, that will be cataclysmic for Trump.
 
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