TrumPutinGate

[volfanjustin]

Cohen has no credibility so if you guys are leaning on him well..... you might want to find another source.

crooked lawyers and porn stars, thats their star witnesses

 

[Orange_Crush]

I see absolutely nothing in evidence supporting your claim.

I didn't follow. What are you supposed to admit to being wrong about?

 

[NorthDallas40]

I didn't follow. What are you supposed to admit to being wrong about?

Luther is demanding I admit Cohen’s claims as true. My reply “nah, I’ll pass”

 

[Septic]

You mean you can’t fully believe a guy that will say anything to save his own butt. Surely he wouldn’t just tell the what they want to hear.

Does that mean we should or shouldn't believe trump when he says "no collusion?"

 

[lawgator1]

Nobody will take Cohen at his word with no corroborating information as actionable evidence and you know it. And you’re already laying the ground work for the buzzfeed/Cohen cross validation mantra you moonbats are going to claim.

Depends on how he appears and how much his story makes sense, and fits with all of the other things we know. Including Trump's history of lying and obstruction to date.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Luther is demanding I admit Cohen’s claims as true. My reply “nah, I’ll pass”

I suspected as much. It's too sad to even mock.

 

[Velo Vol]

May be in Dems interest to let this proceed slowly to ensure Trump defeat in 2020 (assuming the evidence warranting removal is strong) and make GOP senators run while officially supporting Trump still.

From a 2020 (and beyond) standpoint, I think the Democrats' best play is to investigate the hell out of the grifting, incompetence, and Russian issues. Then sit back and watch the wounded duck flail around in the White House.

Big downside: as long as Trump is president he can still do crazy stuff.

 

[theFallGuy]

You mean you can’t fully believe a guy that will say anything to save his own butt. Surely he wouldn’t just tell the what they want to hear.

He will say whatever and all of these folks that are fully invested in the Russian collusion case will lap it up as gospel. Until there is another source I wouldn't put any weight in what he says.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Does that mean we should or shouldn't believe trump when he says "no collusion."

Don't believe him. I don't blindly believe him. Your problem is that, short of any good evidence, the need to believe Trump evaporates.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Depends on how he appears and how much his story makes sense, and fits with all of the other things we know. Including Trump's history of lying and obstruction to date.

No. No it really doesn’t depend on that at all. Nobody and I mean nobody will take Cohen’s word without corroborating evidence.

 

[NorthDallas40]

Don't believe him. I don't blindly believe him. Your problem is that, short of any good evidence, the need to believe Trump evaporates.

Exactly

 

[C-south]

Does that mean we should or shouldn't believe trump when he says "no collusion."

You believe what you want. Do I think Russia helped get him elected? Hell no. I don’t care about polling data. All I see is irrational and delusional hatred by dims because they lost. If anything you need to be worried about the socialist wave of idiot dims getting elected to office.

 

[Orange_Crush]

Exactly

These are supposed lawyers.

1 -- Accusations are unproven.
2 -- Well then neither are his denials.
3 -- Refer to number one.

 

[Septic]

No. No it really doesn’t depend on that at all. Nobody and I mean nobody will take Cohen’s word without corroborating evidence.

I'll take it.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I'll take it.

Hush bridge troll. That doesn’t meet your standard and you know it.

 

[lawgator1]

No. No it really doesn’t depend on that at all. Nobody and I mean nobody will take Cohen’s word without corroborating evidence.

You are categorically wrong.

If Cohen provides compelling testimony and it matches the pattern of Trump's prior lies and efforts to obstruct, there will be plenty of people who will believe him over Trump. Including, I suspect, a lot of Republicans.

Especially those that see light at the end of the tunnel for Trump, and realize it is an oncoming train.

 

[DC_Vol]

I've admitted I was wrong on that multiple times. Now it's time for you to realize you were wrong and then admit it.

I admit I was wrong about Trump.

 

[NorthDallas40]

You are categorically wrong.

If Cohen provides compelling testimony and it matches the pattern of Trump's prior lies and efforts to obstruct, there will be plenty of people who will believe him over Trump. Including, I suspect, a lot of Republicans.

Especially those that see light at the end of the tunnel for Trump, and realize it is an oncoming train.

The president’s former fixer who absolutely nobody believed before, plead to felonies (a dumb plea at that) and is most likely acting to save his own hide is suddenly an air tight credible witness. I repeat...

 

[lawgator1]

These are supposed lawyers.

1 -- Accusations are unproven.
2 -- Well then neither are his denials.
3 -- Refer to number one.

I try cases all the time where the evidence is testimony. Plaintiff and his witnesses say A, B,, C, the defense and its witnesses say no, it was X, Y, Z. The jury listens and decides which has the air of authenticity to it.

The same is possible here. Absolutely.

 

[NorthDallas40]

I admit I was wrong about Trump.

?

 

[tvolsfan]

crooked lawyers and porn stars, thats their star witnesses

The reason the witnesses are of seemingly low character is because those are the people Trump associates with.

 

[Septic]

All I know is that I sure wouldn't want to be known as "individual #1."

"The cover-up is always worse than the crime" - B. Pearl

 

[Orange_Crush]

I try cases all the time where the evidence is testimony. Plaintiff and his witnesses say A, B,, C, the defense and its witnesses say no, it was X, Y, Z. The jury listens and decides which has the air of authenticity to it.

The same is possible here. Absolutely.

You're unhinged in that you actually believe the Republicans will impeach their own president with no proof and only unverified testimony of wrongdoing.

 

[Septic]

The reason the witnesses are of seemingly low character is because those are the people Trump associates with.

 

[Orange_Crush]

I try cases all the time where the evidence is testimony. Plaintiff and his witnesses say A, B,, C, the defense and its witnesses say no, it was X, Y, Z. The jury listens and decides which has the air of authenticity to it.

The same is possible here. Absolutely.

You're unhinged in that you actually believe the Republicans will impeach their own president with no proof and only unverified testimony of wrongdoing.