Tucker Carlson Obsession Thread (merged)

[BreatheUT]

Tucker is just continuing the mission Ailes began after the Nixon administration. Fox does exactly what it was started to do.

Ok, thanks.

I don't care as long as he is being intellectually honest unless you're calling him a liar.

It's an opinion show.

 

[AshG]

Ok, thanks.

I don't care as long as he is being intellectually honest unless you're calling him a liar.

It's an opinion show.

I'm not calling him a liar. He's very careful not to.

 

[BreatheUT]

I'm not calling him a liar. He's very careful not to.

You seem to be an antagonist to everyone but yourself.

 

[BreatheUT]

I'm not calling him a liar. He's very careful not to.

Let me ask you a follow-up. You admitted that Tucker is not a liar which I agree with. He base his position on what he believes is factual info. You don't have to agree with it.

What are you thoughts on any popular opinion person on MSNBC or CNN? Let's just take Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper to give you some direction. Just one from each network.

 

[AshG]

Let me ask you a follow-up. You admitted that Tucker is not a liar which I agree with. He base his position on what he believes is factual info. You don't have to agree with it.

What are you thoughts on any popular opinion person on MSNBC or CNN? Let's just take Rachel Maddow, Joy Reid, Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper to give you some direction. Just one from each network.

I don't really care for any of them, from what experiences I've had watching them. They tell their audiences exactly what they want to hear, and they use the bulwark of the "news" network to provide themselves a sense of legitimacy. The power these individuals have over the minds of their weaker viewers is scary.

In short, I don't have much care for any of them. They have done as much damage as I believe Carlson has.

 

[BreatheUT]

I don't really care for any of them, from what experiences I've had watching them. They tell their audiences exactly what they want to hear, and they use the bulwark of the "news" network to provide themselves a sense of legitimacy. The power these individuals have over the minds of their weaker viewers is scary.

In short, I don't have much care for any of them. They have done as much damage as I believe Carlson has.

So you think a liberal assault on America should go undefended? That is mostly what we see in msm. Up until Trump, they just hid it well. They are so mad because he exposed them. Do you not think he knew what was going on behind the scenes at NBC?

 

[AshG]

So you think a liberal assault on America should go undefended? That is mostly what we see in msm. Up until Trump, they just hid it well. They are so mad because he exposed them. Do you not think he knew what was going on behind the scenes at NBC?

There isn't a liberal assault on America, there's a hard slide of the Overton Window to the right. For example, the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation created a comprehensive health system overhaul in the 1980s, but it never got much traction. Now that same conservative plan in its same form is considered "socialist hogwash".

An examination of political trends save ideological stances, nationally and internationally, will confirm my point. Yes, there are some true socialists who are gaining notoriety but a good part of what is considered the Left here would fit closely to Center Right as far back as Reagan.

One of my favorite debates to watch is the League of Women Voters Debate between Reagan and Bush, especially when it comes to immigration. They would be called RINOs if either of them made those remarks today.

 

[AshG]

As for Tucker himself, I'm afraid he will become old news at some point. While I don't agree with most of what I see attributed to him here, I do reassert my previous statement that I don't believe he would lie intentionally.

Unfortunately, as the Overton Window continues its lurch to the right, so go the viewers. The viewers tantalized by OAN and NewsMax have begun complaining that Fox is beginning to lean left rather than accepting that it is their own viewpoint that has changed.

 

[BreatheUT]

There isn't a liberal assault on America, there's a hard slide of the Overton Window to the right. For example, the conservative think tank Heritage Foundation created a comprehensive health system overhaul in the 1980s, but it never got much traction. Now that same conservative plan in its same form is considered "socialist hogwash".

An examination of political trends save ideological stances, nationally and internationally, will confirm my point. Yes, there are some true socialists who are gaining notoriety but a good part of what is considered the Left here would fit closely to Center Right as far back as Reagan.

One of my favorite debates to watch is the League of Women Voters Debate between Reagan and Bush, especially when it comes to immigration. They would be called RINOs if either of them made those remarks today.

I'm not sure if your using twisting logic but there was consensus on the border in the early 90's. Yes Reagan did grant legal status I believe some migrants in the US without looking it up. The left is the left.

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.​

Ronald Reagan

 

[BreatheUT]

As for Tucker himself, I'm afraid he will become old news at some point. While I don't agree with most of what I see attributed to him here, I do reassert my previous statement that I don't believe he would lie intentionally.

Unfortunately, as the Overton Window continues its lurch to the right, so go the viewers. The viewers tantalized by OAN and NewsMax have begun complaining that Fox is beginning to lean left rather than accepting that it is their own viewpoint that has changed.

Maybe it's because FoxNews us the most fair and balanced cable news channel there is.

 

[AshG]

I'm not sure if your using twisting logic but there was consensus on the border in the early 90's. Yes Reagan did grant legal status I believe some migrants in the US without looking it up. The left is the left.

Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. We didn't pass it to our children in the bloodstream. It must be fought for, protected, and handed on for them to do the same, or one day we will spend our sunset years telling our children and our children's children what it was once like in the United States where men were free.​

Ronald Reagan

I'm not trying to twist logic at all. I don't want to "own the ______" or gotcha anyone on this. I am just nervous by what I'm seeing around me. We're going to end up destroying our country while trying to save it, and each "side" is going to see themselves as the saviors.

 

[BreatheUT]

I'm not trying to twist logic at all. I don't want to "own the ______" or gotcha anyone on this. I am just nervous by what I'm seeing around me. We're going to end up destroying our country while trying to save it, and each "side" is going to see themselves as the saviors.

I do think we are headed that direction. The next generation will bear the brunt of it.

 

[Franklin Pierce]

CNN’s Brian Stelter draws only 656K viewers for smallest audience of 2021

Stelter’s left-wing media program has fallen short of the one-million viewer benchmark for 12 straight weeks

The Father’s Day edition of CNN host Brian Stelter’s struggling program averaged only 656,000 viewers for its smallest audience of the year as "Reliable Sources" continues to suffer in the ratings department during the Biden era.

The dismal turnout marked the first time in 2021 that "Reliable Sources" failed to attract 700,000 viewers and Stelter’s left-wing media program has now fallen short of the one-million viewer benchmark for 12 straight weeks.

Fox News’ "MediaBuzz," which is Stelter’s direct timeslot competitor, averaged 1.14 million viewers to top "Reliable Sources" by 74 percent.

The 35-year-old Stelter’s program managed to lose 13 percent of viewers from its June 13 episode which had previously been the show’s smallest audience of the year. The CNN host has found it difficult to attract viewers despite a recent book tour that included hobnobbing with Jeffrey Toobin days after CNN welcomed him back from an embarrassing masturbation scandal.

CNN’s Brian Stelter draws only 656K viewers for smallest audience of 2021

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Friday, June 18 Scoreboard: In Prime Time, Fox News Out-Delivers CNN and MSNBC Combined

 

[BreatheUT]

This stuff is insane Tucker is covering in his monologue.

 

[Orangeslice13]

Yes, I have seen it many times. I wouldn't call his whiny fear mongering "good reporting". His ratings are so high because of his style. It appeals to LIV citizens and those with narrow minds. He shouts at the rain. Makes you afraid of it, and then tells you who to blame for it. Whether YOU like it or not, that's Fox's model

Lololololol

 

[AshG]

Lololololol

I hate to agree with him, but he's right. It's exactly as Ailes intended. It's sound and well researched methodology and it achieves the end goal of return viewership.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I hate to agree with him, but he's right. It's exactly as Ailes intended. It's sound and well researched methodology and it achieves the end goal of return viewership.

I’m lol at the “fox model”.
Fox is the great satin!!

 

[AshG]

I’m lol at the “fox model”.
Fox is the great satin!!

No, they're not. They have a research backed model that results in return viewership and increased revenue from ad slots.

Unless you're being sarcastic and I'm missing it, which is entirely possible.

 

[Orangeslice13]

I can’t decide who is worse
Sean H from fox with his “you’re never going to believe this….”
Or
Don Lemon with “if you disagree with me you’re a racist….”

 

[hog88]

No, they're not. They have a research backed model that results in return viewership and increased revenue from ad slots.

Unless you're being sarcastic and I'm missing it, which is entirely possible.

They're no different than the other newstainment networks.

 

[hog88]

I can’t decide who is worse
Sean H from fox with his “you’re never going to believe this….”
Or
Don Lemon with “if you disagree with me you’re a racist….”

They are both great at generating ad revenue. Nothing else but that.

 

[Orangeslice13]

No, they're not. They have a research backed model that results in return viewership and increased revenue from ad slots.

Unless you're being sarcastic and I'm missing it, which is entirely possible.

Theses partisan hacks think there’s a difference in cnn msmbc and fox. The only difference is fox is stomping their ass in the ratings

 

[Orangeslice13]

They're no different than the other newstainment networks.

Hey look @BowlBrother85 ^^^^^ it’s a Republican

 

[BreatheUT]

I hate to agree with him, but he's right. It's exactly as Ailes intended. It's sound and well researched methodology and it achieves the end goal of return viewership.

Lolol