TX QB Kaidon Salter (Liberty signee)

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The rumors on Chaney not being really high on hb are true, but it doesn’t matter because bailey will be given every opportunity to prove him wrong and I believe he will.
 
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tatervol said:
The rumors on Chaney not being really high on hb are true, but it doesn’t matter because bailey will be given every opportunity to prove him wrong and I believe he will.
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I Just don’t think it’s true.. not high on him? Why recruit him? He may like more weapons that salter could have like legs but I do not think we waste all this time recruiting a kid for so long if he’s not “high” on him. He’s had maybe two practices at UT if that. HB has been the talk of VN and now we have posters already spewing fodder about him not being what Chaney likes... Chaney took Nathan Peterman and made him a draft pick yet he’s not “high” on bailey? The same Chaney that some of y’all said JG has all the tools? I’m not buying it.
 
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I know AV said they are bullish on Salter but idk how any coaches could not be “high” on any kid they just signed and hasn’t even had a full weeks worth of practice. I don’t see it as a slight to HB to say Salter could have a higher ceiling to the coaches but for Chaney just to not be high on him just seems dumb. He’s a 5 star QB who is in a class of his own with Deshaun Watson, Jake Fromm and Trevor Lawrence I’m Georgia high school football just look at the stats. I think it’s either a pitch to sell to Salter to get him to UT or our fans are truly dumb and setting it up so they can bitch and moan and say “I told you so” the moment HB throws his first pick. AV said nothing about Chaney not being high on HB just that they like Salter.
 
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Who knows, maybe they feel Bailey has peaked and Salter could be a more accurate Cam like qb... I hope bailey proves him wrong because that means 3 winning years and Atlanta trips.
 
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I think both these kids can be elite but I’m not going to believe any HB rumors until he gets practice or game reps and even then he will be a freshman. I think he’s our 3 year starter and has us playing at a VERY high level. Could be wrong but I think he’s the one that gets us to Atlanta for the first time I’m too long.
 
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jakez4ut said:
Peaked?

Wut?
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Meaning he has reached near his ceiling of potential. This is completely hypothetical and I’m no scout, for all I know this could be Chaney’s train of thought. I was only offering a possible reason for them being higher on Salter 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
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DarkAvenger said:
Meaning he has reached near his ceiling of potential. This is completely hypothetical and I’m no scout, for all I know this could be Chaney’s train of thought. I was only offering a possible reason for them being higher on Salter 🤷🏼‍♂️
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They can be high on them both. I wouldn't over think it.
 
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DarkAvenger said:
Who knows, maybe they feel Bailey has peaked and Salter could be a more accurate Cam like qb... I hope bailey proves him wrong because that means 3 winning years and Atlanta trips.
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Already in the rear view mirror, huh? I hope your “your hope” plays out.
 
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KPT_VFL said:
If Chaney believed in Nathan Peterman enough to have him transfer in and get him drafted then I have no clue how he wouldn’t have been thrilled to coach HB.
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IF TRUE... then basically because he knows the kid and his ability much better than you, me, or the recruiting sites that gave Bailey 5*.

I have resisted buying the hype... and am still not buying it. I don't think he wins the job or even becomes #2 this year. If I'm wrong then great... UT will have a star in the making. But I've watched a ton of highlights from various QB's over the years. I didn't see anything to make me think HB was in the Lawrence range.
 
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sjt18 said:
IF TRUE... then basically because he knows the kid and his ability much better than you, me, or the recruiting sites that gave Bailey 5*.

I have resisted buying the hype... and am still not buying it. I don't think he wins the job or even becomes #2 this year. If I'm wrong then great... UT will have a star in the making. But I've watched a ton of highlights from various QB's over the years. I didn't see anything to make me think HB was in the Lawrence range.
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well, the lawrence range is a very small one....

and we've seen other young QB's coming, not the caliber of TL, and be very good from the jump.

that said, i'm not necessarily one to believe or buy in to the notion that he HAS to do that if he's every gonna be what we need/want him to be at TN......

i think a true freshman generally has true freshman moments unless you're just surrounded by a bunch of erasers on the OL, RB, TE, and/or WR that can hide or make up for being a freshman QB..........................................................

so, ideally JG takes a big step forward, and ends the QB debate. allow the other QB's to develop.

that also said, i think that's gonna be difficult for all invovled given how there's been virtually NO spring, and summer doesn't look great.

so even moreso than usual.............TBD.
 
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sjt18 said:
IF TRUE... then basically because he knows the kid and his ability much better than you, me, or the recruiting sites that gave Bailey 5*.

I have resisted buying the hype... and am still not buying it. I don't think he wins the job or even becomes #2 this year. If I'm wrong then great... UT will have a star in the making. But I've watched a ton of highlights from various QB's over the years. I didn't see anything to make me think HB was in the Lawrence range.
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That’s the standard? You got highlights putting Salter up there?
 
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KPT_VFL said:
I know AV said they are bullish on Salter but idk how any coaches could not be “high” on any kid they just signed and hasn’t even had a full weeks worth of practice. I don’t see it as a slight to HB to say Salter could have a higher ceiling to the coaches but for Chaney just to not be high on him just seems dumb. He’s a 5 star QB who is in a class of his own with Deshaun Watson, Jake Fromm and Trevor Lawrence I’m Georgia high school football just look at the stats. I think it’s either a pitch to sell to Salter to get him to UT or our fans are truly dumb and setting it up so they can bitch and moan and say “I told you so” the moment HB throws his first pick. AV said nothing about Chaney not being high on HB just that they like Salter.
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Wrap it up, B
 
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DarkAvenger said:
Meaning he has reached near his ceiling of potential. This is completely hypothetical and I’m no scout, for all I know this could be Chaney’s train of thought. I was only offering a possible reason for them being higher on Salter 🤷🏼‍♂️
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You have got to be kidding. He hasn't even been through a full spring practice, and he may have "peaked" lol
 
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butchna said:
That’s the standard? You got highlights putting Salter up there?
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No. Not a "standard"... just the basis for my doubts.

I assume that he put his best plays on his highlight videos, right? He may be great. I just didn't see it in his highlights.
 
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sjt18 said:
No. Not a "standard"... just the basis for my doubts.

I assume that he put his best plays on his highlight videos, right? He may be great. I just didn't see it in his highlights.
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Lot of highlights. I interpret higher level of play off of them. Eye of the beholder thing.
 
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butchna said:
Lot of highlights. I interpret higher level of play off of them. Eye of the beholder thing.
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Probably.

But when I consider arm strength Bray and Shuler are kind of my bench marks. Neither HB nor Salter have that kind of pure arm talent. Doesn't mean they cannot be good.... just not enough reason for me to buy in until their other abilities are displayed. HB may have great instincts for timing and ball placement.... I just don't think I can conclude that based on his highlights.
 
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sjt18 said:
Probably.

But when I consider arm strength Bray and Shuler are kind of my bench marks. Neither HB nor Salter have that kind of pure arm talent. Doesn't mean they cannot be good.... just not enough reason for me to buy in until their other abilities are displayed. HB may have great instincts for timing and ball placement.... I just don't think I can conclude that based on his highlights.
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Ball gets there in a hurry...and where he wants it. Not always the end result for either Shuler or Bray. Jeff George had the most gifted arm talent of my generation...not my standard for face of the program QB’s. Beholder eyes.
 
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