'19 TX WR Isaiah Neyor

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This guy doesn't deserve a 63 page thread if u ask me...Sorry this recruit just left a sour taste in my mouth from start to finish.Yea yea save it old man 😂😂,I already know but I'm just saying it was a dik move!
 
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MemphisVol3 said:
I wouldn't necessarily say we won't outbid schools...looks like they'll bid based on their valuation of the player to the team/program. Someone like Nico for example, they very well may go all out for and can win that "bidding battle" if that makes sense. They just won't offer the same to everyone. What Texas A&M did/spent was unprecedented so we'll see what sort of regulation if any takes place in the future as well as what schools are up to snuff. UGA for example does not have an NIL program set up yet.
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Right. I'm not talking about individual players, just overall. I think there will be at least 3 or 4 schools we are going to have trouble outbidding right now, if they really want them.

I guess UGA is still comfortable doing things the old fashion way (cheating). Hey, if it's not broke...
 
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slice said:
That is part of it, some players just chose to go elsewhere but yes, some Tennessee might have been able to sign one or two if they offered more money.

The biggest reason they are not as active as the public thought they would be in the portal is because they can't be.. They are on a private self-imposed scholarship limit for the football calendar year of 2021. What that means is that they can not exceed a certain number of scholarship players in the program from the Summer of 2021 through the Summer of 2022. The other self imposed penalty was having no unofficial visitors for one game during the 2021 season (Thursday night vs BG)..

This really allowed them to end the NCAA stuff with almost no penalties. They would not have exceeded the number of scholarships this year anyway because of the lost transfer portal guys from last year but the one downside is that they can not be super active right now in the transfer portal because they are very close to that number. They almost have to have someone leave in the portal right now before they can take someone.

While the scholarship limit is 85, most people think Tennessee can do whatever they want in the portal because of their numbers. Truth is, because of the self imposed sanctions that almost no one knows about, they can't until this Summer when they will be allowed 85 scholarships again.
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Hog said there were no self imposed sanctions
 
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Volfansince1980 said:
Not sure who Hog is, but others close to the program seems to think that there are. Curious as to what Hog knows that others don't
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He doesn’t know anything. He likes trashing Heupel and thinks that there is no excuse for the recruiting class Heupel signed. He also said that there have been no sanctions or scholarship reductions and saying there is is just using excuses.
 
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MarcoVol said:
So Tennessee decided that zero of the elite players in the country for the 2022 class were worth it?
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They decided they were going to pay Hooker and Tillman alot because they had proven their worth. They weren't going to pay recruits a bigger sum because that could jeopardize the culture they are building.

They paid James Pearce, and that is why he signed early instead of waiting until February.

In essence, we now seem to have adults making adult decisions and actually thinking about the long game instead of trying to outbid other schools.

I think you will also see us becoming more aggressive in 2023, especially at the skilled positions.
 
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God here I go buying in that maybe,just freaking maybe Heupel is gonna dig us outta this hole.Man how great would it be to have my kids who are 18 over for a UT championship game??One can dream huh I'm not buying it just yet but if Heupel does fail I have no doubts he leaves us better than he found us.If he doesn't cut it,it won't be from lack of character or doin the rite thing,were lucky to have him rite now.
 
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slice said:
This wasn't exactly this simple. In the end, Texas gave him around $1.5M over three years so money played a factor for sure. Tennessee simply decided it was not worth it in terms of potentially losing the locker room. NIL is not simply a bidding war between every program, as some assume it is. Some programs have a certain value on a kid and they won't exceed it.. Lots of things play into those decisions, such as 'What is my best player at this position making? Should I pay this transfer kid more and possibly upset the kids I have?' Those questions get very interesting when the kid coming in is not a sure thing. There are programs that are paying whatever it takes to sign kids, Tennessee is not one of those places, at least not right now while trying to build a new culture and foundation. However, everyone at Tennessee knows that if it is ever truly needed, their pockets are as deep as anyones. They will spend on kids they deem worth it, which won't be as many kids as Texas A&M for example. (The $30M signing class is 100% true for a fact)

Playing at Texas close to family certainly played a factor but the kid was also very enamored by the prospect of playing in Tennessee's offense.
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*Texas* isn't paying him a dime other than his scholarship. NIL deals are businesses outside of the university. Universities in most states can now have some control over the way they are handled (similar to an agent/advisor), but they do not give the student athlete that money. So if they arranged a business to give him 1.5m over 4 years, so be it, but its not at all like they have a slot or cap. The individual athlete and whomever decides to sign them as a spokesperson or representative determine the value of each deal.
 
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Wolfeman_Vol said:
*Texas* isn't paying him a dime other than his scholarship. NIL deals are businesses outside of the university. Universities in most states can now have some control over the way they are handled (similar to an agent/advisor), but they do not give the student athlete that money. So if they arranged a business to give him 1.5m over 4 years, so be it, but its not at all like they have a slot or cap. The individual athlete and whomever decides to sign them as a spokesperson or representative determine the value of each deal.
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Semantics. The boosters are part of the University and they are likely funding most, if not all the NIL deal
 
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CobbVol said:
Heupel is hamstrung from the sins of the past coaches. Let him get on a level playing field where he can sign 32 players with up to 7 transfers like all of our competition is currently able to do with their classes.
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That’s not the problem. I’m all for giving him time, but his failure to sign a single top 100 recruit was not due to a lack of spots
 
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T2P_Priceless said:
Well you answered it. You said not any. Also, maybe not updated online but I thought I saw where ON3 now has Pearce as the overall #11 in the nation
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Honeslty, it’s so new I’ve yet to look into it. Was unaware of the 1 rivals top 100 player prior to posting.

But I think we can both agree that’s not the standard

Edit: they have our highest ranked player at 121
 
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Vol8188 said:
Honeslty, it’s so new I’ve yet to look into it. Was unaware of the 1 rivals top 100 player prior to posting.

But I think we can both agree that’s not the standard

Edit: they have our highest ranked player at 121
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Yeah I still haven't seen enough to say that Heupel can recruit at the level that we need. I'm not saying that he can't I just haven't seen it yet, particularly on defense where we actually need the most help. He can clearly coach, but recruiting the top players are going to be important to winning championships.
 
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Vol8188 said:
That’s not the problem. I’m all for giving him time, but his failure to sign a single top 100 recruit was not due to a lack of spots
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But he did....
He signed a 5 star.
And an high 4 star top 100 former 5 star....
 
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