'19 TX WR Isaiah Neyor

[AstonRoyal]

According to?

Edit: I’m familiar with the former 5 star but no current

He's talking about Pearce who's a 5 star on On3. As good as he looks, I don't really see him as a 5 star but I def think he's gonna be a good player.

..yeah I know, I know, someone here will say they'll trust the opinion of On3 before they trust mine, some random poster. It's just my opinion

 

[Vol8188]

He's talking about Pearce who's a 5 star on On3. As good as he looks, I don't really see him as a 5 star but I def think he's gonna be a good player.

..yeah I know, I know, someone here will say they'll trust the opinion of On3 before they trust mine, some random poster. It's just my opinion

Thanks. When I was looking on the team page instead of his individual page there it only showed what I assume is a composite ranking in the 100s. Glad to hear it though. I know VQ is really excited about him.

 

[Vol8188]

He's talking about Pearce who's a 5 star on On3. As good as he looks, I don't really see him as a 5 star but I def think he's gonna be a good player.

..yeah I know, I know, someone here will say they'll trust the opinion of On3 before they trust mine, some random poster. It's just my opinion

I realize the recruiting services aren’t perfect but unless coaches start releasing their big boards (obviously not happening) it’s the best we have.

 

[Nashvegas31]

Close thread and let this douche fondle Ewers mullet next yr

 

[Carp]

Total points are relevant when comparing teams that have the same or almost the same # of recruits but then of course the average is about the same. During the recruiting cycle when there arr larger discrepancies in recruits committed, average ranking is always the best indicator of the talent being brought in at that time. Of course when NSD is completed, average ranking and total ranking will closely parallel each other.
Fry

So still finished 17th in the end. Pretty much exactly what I said. Imagine that.

 

[Carp]

Honeslty, it’s so new I’ve yet to look into it. Was unaware of the 1 rivals top 100 player prior to posting.

But I think we can both agree that’s not the standard

Edit: they have our highest ranked player at 121

He had less than a year to make relationships with 90% of the elite recruits of the country. That combined with A&M spending probably over 20 million on 17 of the top 100 players in the country, sort of makes things pretty hard.

 

[Vol8188]

He had less than a year to make relationships with 90% of the elite recruits of the country. That combined with A&M spending probably over 20 million on 17 of the top 100 players in the country, sort of makes things pretty hard.

I don’t disagree about him needing time. My first post was that the issue wasn’t a lack of spots as someone else had claimed.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

He's talking about Pearce who's a 5 star on On3. As good as he looks, I don't really see him as a 5 star but I def think he's gonna be a good player.

..yeah I know, I know, someone here will say they'll trust the opinion of On3 before they trust mine, some random poster. It's just my opinion

I trust the opinion of the coaches more than any of the services or posters. Their livelihood depends on their decisions. Ours do not.

 

[Vol8188]

I trust the opinion of the coaches more than any of the services or posters. Their livelihood depends on their decisions. Ours do not.

Until they start posting their honest boards (not just saying "we like the guys we got") the recruiting services are the best we can come up with.

 

[VOLINVONORE]

Until they start posting their honest boards (not just saying "we like the guys we got") the recruiting services are the best we can come up with.

If I was coaching, I would trust what my eyes saw rather than what some journalist writes in his column or publication He makes money selling his or someone on his staff‘s thinks after looking at highlight film. I would be making my money on winning football games. You take the recruiting services data and I take my data and I will beat you, assuming we bothe get the dude’s we want. I realize that we may end up wanting many of the same guys, but if I fail, I want it to be based on my decisions.

 

[Vol8188]

If I was coaching, I would trust what my eyes saw rather than what some journalist writes in his column or publication He makes money selling his or someone on his staff‘s thinks after looking at highlight film. I would be making my money on winning football games. You take the recruiting services data and I take my data and I will beat you, assuming we bothe get the dude’s we want. I realize that we may end up wanting many of the same guys, but if I f@il, I want it to be based on my decisions.

That's great, but it had 0 to do with my point.

You do not not know who they covet. Nor do I. Even when we hear from VQ "this guy is their top RB", sometimes that means there's 5 other guys they aren't considering because they don't see them coming here.

So until coaches start releasing their honest recruiting boards (obviously will never happen), the best we can do as fans is use the recruiting sites as our measurement.

 

[Wolfeman_Vol]

Semantics. The boosters are part of the University and they are likely funding most, if not all the NIL deal

There's more than just boosters involved. But yes, some of them run these companies. My point is that these are external forces, even if only technically. And I find it difficult to think that very many college players are signing deals worth millions. Hell, Tua only makes an estimated $450 grand a year from endorsements, which is essentially the same as an NIL.

 

[T2P_Priceless]

There's more than just boosters involved. But yes, some of them run these companies. My point is that these are external forces, even if only technically. And I find it difficult to think that very many college players are signing deals worth millions. Hell, Tua only makes an estimated $450 grand a year from endorsements, which is essentially the same as an NIL.

Yea, but not all these “NIL” deals are true endorsements. They’re just a legal way to pay them to come to the University. I don’t think very many are worth more than 6 figures but with A&M I don’t know

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Yea, but not all these “NIL” deals are true endorsements. They’re just a legal way to pay them to come to the University. I don’t think very many are worth more than 6 figures but with A&M I don’t know

I think several are over 7 figures for the life of the deal. I don’t think anybody is 7 figures per year.

I also don’t believe the 30 million number. I think it’s closer to 12-18 though

 

[VOLINVONORE]

That's great, but it had 0 to do with my point.

You do not not know who they covet. Nor do I. Even when we hear from VQ "this guy is their top RB", sometimes that means there's 5 other guys they aren't considering because they don't see them coming here.

So until coaches start releasing their honest recruiting boards (obviously will never happen), the best we can do as fans is use the recruiting sites as our measurement.

That is why I don't get too upset about who we get and who we don't get based on the players ranking by the rating services. Our coaches try to get the players who will fit best in our system regardless of they ranking by the rating services. We already know that different rating services rank the same players differently. Therefore, when we get the players our coaches want , I am a happy camper. As we increase getting the number of players the coaches want, we SHOULD become a better team. However, the real key is getting the most out of the players you recruit.

 

[BlinghamptonVol]

I'm becoming more and more convinced that Heupel simply believes he can outscheme everyone and doesn't need elite talent across the board. I don't agree with that idea, necessarily, especially on defense, but it just seems like he believes that he can win at a high level without the best talent. At some point it does, at least partially, become about the Jimmys and Joes, and not just the Xs and Os.

Let’s hope Heup believing he can outscheme everyone isn’t reality. Flashbacks to Charlie Weis there.
I’m not saying Heup is Weis. Just hoping he doesn’t think scheme outweighs talent. Sure it can get you an upset here or there, but it’s not sustainable longer term. That’s why ‘scheme’ coaches do well in G5, but struggle in P5. I hope he schemes with some talent, then we got something cooking.

 

[Volfansince1980]

Let’s hope Heup believing he can outscheme everyone isn’t reality. Flashbacks to Charlie Weis there.
I’m not saying Heup is Weis. Just hoping he doesn’t think scheme outweighs talent. Sure it can get you an upset here or there, but it’s not sustainable longer term. That’s why ‘scheme’ coaches do well in G5, but struggle in P5. I hope he schemes with some talent, then we got something cooking.

Yeah, he’s going to need to recruit. Hopefully next year the self imposed handcuffs come off

 

[ABINGDON VOL FAN]

So still finished 17th in the end. Pretty much exactly what I said. Imagine that.

Not as high as some people thought when we were in the low teams which was the point I was making at the time.

 

[MemphisVol3]

Yeah, he’s going to need to recruit. Hopefully next year the self imposed handcuffs come off

Agreed. I think with Heupel's scheming ability, Top 10ish classes would have us being regular contenders.

 

[slice]

However, everyone at Tennessee knows that if it is ever truly needed, their pockets are as deep as anyones. They will spend on kids they deem worth it,

 

[BigOrangeTrain]

Why the self bump??

 

[T2P_Priceless]

Why the self bump??

I assume he’s saying the recent NIL stuff is backing up his claim