Tyler Baron has entered the portal

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Score50 said:
Everyone jumping ship and nobody is jumping on the ship. Doesn’t seem to be good for the Vols and Heupel.
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They had to make some room with all the COVID seniors coming back. They will only take 3-4 from the portal at most so they can keep that number at 82.

I'm not saying they told Baron to walk, but most of the folks that left were likely told they would be losing snaps
 
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BP4Prez said:
Maybe they think those underclassmen can match his production? In some cases, it’s time for the 5th and 6th year guys to move on. This is a position that I believe they think they can fill.

There are more critical spots to allocate those resources (online, secondary, etc).
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lol. I don’t think so. Last time he went portal he was a priority to get back. He’s done nothing but prove his worth on the field with his play. Maybe I’ve forgotten how to judge Dline though. 😂
 
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BDP! said:
His NFL grade didn't come back high enough. This is his 2nd time in the portal. Maybe he will change his mind and stay.
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If his grade isn't high enough now after 3 years under Garner, leaving the best DL coach in the country won't make you no better.
 
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Voltopia said:
It's not the individual situation, it's the environment where guys are coming and going yearly. In a vacuum, sure, Hendon Hooker coming to Tennessee was great. A college football sugar high if ever there was one. But an environment that allows that, where the roster radically changes year to year, and you're always at risk of losing your best players to a bigger payday, is hugely detrimental to college athletics as a concept. It completely changes the "value proposition," to borrow a marketing phrase.

Now of course, the chorus will come quickly. "Tough ****." And sure, okay, I think everyone gets that. Some people don't care that it's turned into this, and others even prefer it. But it is impossible to deny that the tone and atmosphere of college football hasn't completely changed. It has dramatically changed.

And, frankly, if we're going to be in an environment where it's soley about money and wins, (and that is the destination here, I believe), then I think it's fair to ask just what any of it has to do with the schools or why the schools have any business being connected to a purely professional product.
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"College athletics as a concept" has been, for a long time, about money. It's just now that the players are able to share in the money that it generates.

The sport generates billions of dollars a year. What is the argument for saying that the players participating in it shouldn't be able to get paid? The coaches make millions and can leave whenever they want, and the admin people make millions and can leave whenever they want. If CFB was still glorified intramurals with 10k seat stadiums, coaches making $75k/year, very few games on TV, etc., then the NCAA's old rules about player benefits make sense. But that isn't the world we live in, and it hasn't been for a very long time.

If anything, the atmosphere of the game changed once it started generating amounts of money that people 100 years ago never thought it would.
 
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hog88 said:
Scholarships can be awarded for 4 years, the NCAA made that change a few years ago.

If they keep the NIL deals through the collective system then they don't have to worry about the employee issue and even if the make the mistake of bringing it inhouse you can be a contractor without being an employee. It's just not sustainable to raise money to land a player then have them break the deal without penalty, this will get worse if there is no control mechanism put in place.
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I don't think it's going to be possible to tell someone like LeBron or Nico, "you can only use your NIL to advertise products we tell you."

I know Quinn Ewers kept the card deal he left high school for despite leaving tOSU. I can't imagine an athlete agreeing to a "single endorsement organization" for that kind of contract.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
If I am an idiot for supporting Joe then so is Heupel. You know the HC of the team? I support the Vols regardless of how good or bad they are. What more do you know than Heupel does about the right starting QB? Go take a lap keyboard warrior. If you can't take a retort on a message board then go record your soft azz feelings in your diary.
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We knew what we were getting Milton two years ago. Quit being stupid. I bet you supported Guarantano into the ground for 4 years too. Just so tired of people that can’t realize a player makes the team worse with him being in.
 
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WhenUrVolUrVFL said:
We knew what we were getting Milton two years ago. Quit being stupid. I bet you supported Guarantano into the ground for 4 years too. Just so tired of people that can’t realize a player makes the team worse with him being in.
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What does any of this have to do with Tyler Baron? Hell, Joe is gone after the bowl game. We can complain until we are blue in the face but that doesn't have an outcome on who plays and who doesn't. I realize Joe wasn't great but apparently he was the best option we had this year because the coaches make those calls.
 
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PEPPERJAX said:
What does any of this have to do with Tyler Baron? Hell, Joe is gone after the bowl game. We can complain until we are blue in the face but that doesn't have an outcome on who plays and who doesn't. I realize Joe wasn't great but apparently he was the best option we had this year because the coaches make those calls.
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Joe wasn’t the best option we had. That is obvious. If you say things like that, you’re not smart. Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.
 
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Us during the games: “our defense is terrible!”

Us now when losing a defensive player: “noooooooooo!”
 
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Voltopia said:
It's not the individual situation, it's the environment where guys are coming and going yearly. In a vacuum, sure, Hendon Hooker coming to Tennessee was great. A college football sugar high if ever there was one. But an environment that allows that, where the roster radically changes year to year, and you're always at risk of losing your best players to a bigger payday, is hugely detrimental to college athletics as a concept. It completely changes the "value proposition," to borrow a marketing phrase.

Now of course, the chorus will come quickly. "Tough ****." And sure, okay, I think everyone gets that. Some people don't care that it's turned into this, and others even prefer it. But it is impossible to deny that the tone and atmosphere of college football hasn't completely changed. It has dramatically changed.

And, frankly, if we're going to be in an environment where it's soley about money and wins, (and that is the destination here, I believe), then I think it's fair to ask just what any of it has to do with the schools or why the schools have any business being connected to a purely professional product.
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Very well said. We have to realize what we've helped create by demanding better and better players, paying huge amounts to coaches, creating massive stadiums, and taking big, big money TV contracts.

It's tempting to blame the players but major schools have had a payment system in place, one way or another, for a long, long time. Now that it's in the open, we choose to blame the players? That's how recruiting has been done years and years.

The schools are academic institutions, not pro sports businesses but this didn't start with NIL starting. It started around the time Johnny got paid $100k to coach. That should've tipped us off that "academic enhancement" was no longer the purpose of UT football.
 
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Stownterry said:
Well remove him from the VFL
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He is not
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He might not fit your definition, but he's got to do what he thinks is best for him and I'm not holding that against anybody. Hope it works out for him.
 
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I kinda like the old days when recruits came in because they wanted to play and get an education from a particular college.
College football has became a business and it’s seems to be only money driven and no player seems to have an allegiance to a team and what it means to lay it all out there a call their Team a team.
Now we hear where major colleges can offer 30K to each player regardless of their participation which seems to be fair when one player gets millions to play and the others get nothing.
We then wonder what causes locker room issues when some players roll in with shiny new cars and others have to take the bus.
I’m of an opinion college football will be forever changed, but this being said, it’s hard to blame a young man when he can earn a basket of cash.
Just my opinion….
 
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