U.S. Has UFOs of 'Non-Human Origin', Ex-Intelligence Officer Claims

[marcusluvsvols]

The MIC runs this country man. Eisenhower warned us about it im the 1940s, saying they were the greatest threat to our nation, when he was President. Nobody listened though, or at least did anything about it. All of our reps are bought and paid for. Lobbying should be illegal, and come with prison terms when guilty. Its ridiculous. Not to be confused with the military themselves....its the private corporations. No way can it be Constitutional for companies to bribe, buy, and own all the people who are supposed to represent citizens only.

 

[BreatheUT]

The MIC runs this country man. Eisenhower warned us about it im the 1940s, saying they were the greatest threat to our nation, when he was President. Nobody listened though, or at least did anything about it. All of our reps are bought and paid for. Lobbying should be illegal, and come with prison terms when guilty. Its ridiculous. Not to be confused with the military themselves....its the private corporations. No way can it be Constitutional for companies to bribe, buy, and own all the people who are supposed to represent citizens only.

That is a consequence of the government getting too big to regulate itself. With as many safeguards, the founders put in place 240 years ago they couldn't forecast the size of the world and the US population growing at this pace where the WH, congress and bureaucracies created departments for almost every idea.

 

[davethevol]

That is a consequence of the government getting too big to regulate itself. With as many safeguards, the founders put in place 240 years ago they couldn't forecast the size of the world and the US population growing at this pace where the WH, congress and bureaucracies created departments for almost every idea.

The founders also dumbed down the amendments so it was very clear what the government was restricted to follow. And yet we still have illegal rules put in place by the ATF which should have zero legal authority as they cannot write the laws, and the Supreme Court does jack about it. This country turned on its citizens a long time ago, and We the people continue to allow it to happen.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

The timestamps to automatically skip to the UFO related parts are in the top comment on the video. He gives 1st hand testimony from himself and his units encounters with the craft off the coast of VA. Hes the 1st pilot i have heard say definitively that the way the crafts flew when they intercepted them was NOT consistent with being a drone or machine, but piloted by living beings due to their erratic flight. He gives specifics about formations and reactions to humans. Hes quite sharp as you would expect, he was no1 in his class and the only guy to get the 1 fighter jet slot in his class...everyone else is flying transport/tanker/bombers or a desk.

 

[TVOLS]

Grab first YouTube video I found of this new release. I'm not liking this one guy if this is not some kind of object that can be identified.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Grab first YouTube video I found of this new release. I'm not liking this one guy if this is not some kind of object that can be identified.

Wow thats crazy too. Doesnt show up on optical (cameras) but shows up clearly on thermal imaging like FLIR weapons systems. Again a craft with no visible means of propulsion either... but the craft itself rapidly changes temperature as it travels. Also correlates with nuclear facilities again like so many other UFO encounters. Also it can....like the other type of craft on the Navy pilots FLIR....go from flying thru the air to traveling underwater. Which there are zero man made crafts that can do this...primarily because we currently have to build craft very lightweight to fly them, and no craft light enough to fly is strong enough to dive into the water at speed without disintegrating. This is apparently at least the 2nd type of craft caught on FLIR that can do so....and then accelerate straight out of the water to ??? At speeds and G forces that would make humans a pink puddle of goo in the floorboards (in the Navy footage) At some point hopefully we get full access to the videos our military has of these non human origin crafts.

 

[Hunerwadel]

Grab first YouTube video I found of this new release. I'm not liking this one guy if this is not some kind of object that can be identified.

Did anyone else notice this thing had rather...er...well...big feet?

I'm a hard core skeptic. Special effects editing can explain this thing much better or at least as well as anything else. Occam's razor sez hey.

Edit: @TVOLS, I do appreciate you posting this and I hope everyone who has something continues to post. I just have never seen anything that screams "OK, this is ET". Even the accumulation of all we have seen is really not that impressive. At least IMO.

 

[TVOLS]

Wow thats crazy too. Doesnt show up on optical (cameras) but shows up clearly on thermal imaging like FLIR weapons systems. Again a craft with no visible means of propulsion either... but the craft itself rapidly changes temperature as it travels. Also correlates with nuclear facilities again like so many other UFO encounters. Also it can....like the other type of craft on the Navy pilots FLIR....go from flying thru the air to traveling underwater. Which there are zero man made crafts that can do this...primarily because we currently have to build craft very lightweight to fly them, and no craft light enough to fly is strong enough to dive into the water at speed without disintegrating. This is apparently at least the 2nd type of craft caught on FLIR that can do so....and then accelerate straight out of the water to ??? At speeds and G forces that would make humans a pink puddle of goo in the floorboards (in the Navy footage) At some point hopefully we get full access to the videos our military has of these non human origin crafts.

i don’t know what that is, but Jeremy spoke about this very thing back in 2021 or early 2022 on Joe Rogan I watched it on Reddit earlier today to. Kinda strange if fake to hold on to it for this long. That does not look like any kind of craft to me. Looks creepy.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

This is not new, but it is new to me so i linked it here. Theres no being vague, or worrying over getting locked up/ only being able to speak in detail in a SCIF etc....this guy flat lays it out. Tells dates and locations of crashes, where he was stationed as an AF investigator/counterintelligence officer...etc etc. Either he (and many others by now) are completely FOS and willing to go lie about these UFO encounters and face all the public scrutiny and ridicule for NO discernable reason....OR our government has had contact with UFO crashes and ships for at least 75 years now.

Btw...yall may have heard of the music group "Foo Fighters"...know where they got the name? Look it up. The real "Foo Fighters" were the fighter pilots from the same timeframe in Europe that got sent to chase the UFOs that simply would not leave them alone. Crafts described exactly as the ones at Roswell and still seen today....that moved 10x faster than anything manmade could, changed direction on a dime, no visible means of propulsion etc. Fighter pilots have been tasked with trying to intercept these things for as long as there have been airplanes to fly.....so either hundreds and hundreds of the best and brightest humans all chose to tell the same lies generation after generation....OR we have visitors here on Earth.

Occams razor my ass. Occams razor has been on the side of UFOs being real for a very long time...versus " impossibly huge conspiracy spanning hundreds of totally unrelated strangers, across dozens of countries, on several continents around the world, in many different languages across many generations." ^^^ even that is limiting the scope of the impossibly large conspiracy ONLY to 1st person accounts by pilots, astronauts, and other folks who personally saw these things and made record of them. No conjecture about for example the UFOs pictured in art from ancient Egypt all the way up through some of the most famous oil paintings of the Masters in Europe....nor the impossibly huge perfectly hewn stones up into 100s of TONS in mass that fit together so tight you cannot fit a sheet of paper between them that makeup megalithic structures all over the world.....structures which mankind does not have the tools to cut nor cranes capable of moving even today, yet those stones makeup these structures that are thousands of years old when men didnt even have metal tools yet. Not copper, not iron, no elecricity....nothing. There are structures like this in South America, and in the Far East, with stones many, many times the size of the largest stones in Egypt. We have absolutely no idea how any of them were built. We cannot replicate them today. Whats really crazy is the edges and flat sides of these incredibly huge stones dont even have tool marks on them. No circular marks from spinning blades or bits. No chatter marks from chisels or hammers. Many of them have been burned by something extremely hot though which changes the surface. The case for UFOs doesnt even need to get into all these things though, there are plenty of 1st person accounts from pilots, astronauts etc.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Heres a pretty good video about megalithic structures. From Peru and Bolivia, to Japan and Asian islands, to Northern Europe, Egypt and the ME there are megalithic structures all over this planet that are clearly thousands of years old....yet we have no idea how humans could have possibly constructed them. The stones in Egypt at the pyramids are tiny in comparison...even the impossibly big obelisks from Egypt are dwarfed by the stones used in these structures. Often times in very weird shapes that still somehow fit perfectly together with the stones surrounding them....with NO mortar or concrete used to join them. No tools left behind for us to discover, and no inscriptions or depictions describing the unimaginable amount of effort that would have gone into building these sites. So thousands of people without even metal tools worked for hundreds and hundreds of years to build just 1 of these sites but nobody left any records of who was responsible for the construction? Nobody wanted credit for that? Check out the molten metal they poured as "keys" to join some of the stones together permanently in those earthquake zones....yet there are zero metal tools left behind? Weird stuff man. Vitrification is weird too...

 

[LouderVol]

Heres a pretty good video about megalithic structures. From Peru and Bolivia, to Japan and Asian islands, to Northern Europe, Egypt and the ME there are megalithic structures all over this planet that are clearly thousands of years old....yet we have no idea how humans could have possibly constructed them. The stones in Egypt at the pyramids are tiny in comparison...even the impossibly big obelisks from Egypt are dwarfed by the stones used in these structures. Often times in very weird shapes that still somehow fit perfectly together with the stones surrounding them....with NO mortar or concrete used to join them. No tools left behind for us to discover, and no inscriptions or depictions describing the unimaginable amount of effort that would have gone into building these sites. So thousands of people without even metal tools worked for hundreds and hundreds of years to build just 1 of these sites but nobody left any records of who was responsible for the construction? Nobody wanted credit for that? Check out the molten metal they poured as "keys" to join some of the stones together permanently in those earthquake zones....yet there are zero metal tools left behind? Weird stuff man. Vitrification is weird too...

totally possible to move big rocks by hand. here is a 50 year old moving 20 ton rocks by himself with no machinery or modern equipment.



the stones fitting together probably used some type of naturally produced clay that helps mold the rocks together.



cutting and drilling the egyptian stones would be pretty simple using sand as additional grit. sand from the very same source as the stone itself. so you wouldn't have to rely on a softer material grinding through the stone.

the ancients had NO distractions like we have today. Their brain power would have been solely dedicated to figuring stuff like this out, instead of posting online about an orange sports team for months on end. we are also trained to think with the tools and methods we have now, and then put ourselves back in their shoes and go "yup, no way they could have done it." when there are some very straightforward explanations.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

totally possible to move big rocks by hand. here is a 50 year old moving 20 ton rocks by himself with no machinery or modern equipment.



the stones fitting together probably used some type of naturally produced clay that helps mold the rocks together.



cutting and drilling the egyptian stones would be pretty simple using sand as additional grit. sand from the very same source as the stone itself. so you wouldn't have to rely on a softer material grinding through the stone.

the ancients had NO distractions like we have today. Their brain power would have been solely dedicated to figuring stuff like this out, instead of posting online about an orange sports team for months on end. we are also trained to think with the tools and methods we have now, and then put ourselves back in their shoes and go "yup, no way they could have done it." when there are some very straightforward explanations.

Molding rocks together? Do what? Men molding rocks together?

 

[LouderVol]

Molding rocks together? Do what? Men molding rocks together?

chemistry existed before we had beaker tubes and bunsen burners.

 

[Hunerwadel]

This is not new, but it is new to me so i linked it here. Theres no being vague, or worrying over getting locked up/ only being able to speak in detail in a SCIF etc....this guy flat lays it out. Tells dates and locations of crashes, where he was stationed as an AF investigator/counterintelligence officer...etc etc. Either he (and many others by now) are completely FOS and willing to go lie about these UFO encounters and face all the public scrutiny and ridicule for NO discernable reason....OR our government has had contact with UFO crashes and ships for at least 75 years now.

Btw...yall may have heard of the music group "Foo Fighters"...know where they got the name? Look it up. The real "Foo Fighters" were the fighter pilots from the same timeframe in Europe that got sent to chase the UFOs that simply would not leave them alone. Crafts described exactly as the ones at Roswell and still seen today....that moved 10x faster than anything manmade could, changed direction on a dime, no visible means of propulsion etc. Fighter pilots have been tasked with trying to intercept these things for as long as there have been airplanes to fly.....so either hundreds and hundreds of the best and brightest humans all chose to tell the same lies generation after generation....OR we have visitors here on Earth.

Occams razor my ass. Occams razor has been on the side of UFOs being real for a very long time...versus " impossibly huge conspiracy spanning hundreds of totally unrelated strangers, across dozens of countries, on several continents around the world, in many different languages across many generations." ^^^ even that is limiting the scope of the impossibly large conspiracy ONLY to 1st person accounts by pilots, astronauts, and other folks who personally saw these things and made record of them. No conjecture about for example the UFOs pictured in art from ancient Egypt all the way up through some of the most famous oil paintings of the Masters in Europe....nor the impossibly huge perfectly hewn stones up into 100s of TONS in mass that fit together so tight you cannot fit a sheet of paper between them that makeup megalithic structures all over the world.....structures which mankind does not have the tools to cut nor cranes capable of moving even today, yet those stones makeup these structures that are thousands of years old when men didnt even have metal tools yet. Not copper, not iron, no elecricity....nothing. There are structures like this in South America, and in the Far East, with stones many, many times the size of the largest stones in Egypt. We have absolutely no idea how any of them were built. We cannot replicate them today. Whats really crazy is the edges and flat sides of these incredibly huge stones dont even have tool marks on them. No circular marks from spinning blades or bits. No chatter marks from chisels or hammers. Many of them have been burned by something extremely hot though which changes the surface. The case for UFOs doesnt even need to get into all these things though, there are plenty of 1st person accounts from pilots, astronauts etc.

When you apply Occam's razor to Machu Picchu which is the simpler explanation? 1. Machu Picchu is a very good example of ancient ashlar masonry and craftsmanship by the Incas. 2. Aliens came to earth and either constructed Machu Picchu or provided the technology to the Incas to build it themselves.

I do understand that Occam's razor does not exclude less likely explanations from being correct.

To say that we have no idea how they built Machu Picchu is not completely true. There are many publications and media productions that offer explanations other than extraterrestrial origins. https://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.edu/anthpubs/ucb/text/nap021-006.pdf

I guess the way things stand presently people will just have to decide for themselves if they believe that aliens have been or are presently engaged on earth. I still haven't seen enough to make me a believer.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

When you apply Occam's razor to Machu Picchu which is the simpler explanation? 1. Machu Picchu is a very good example of ancient ashlar masonry and craftsmanship by the Incas. 2. Aliens came to earth and either constructed Machu Picchu or provided the technology to the Incas to build it themselves.

I do understand that Occam's razor does not exclude less likely explanations from being correct.

To say that we have no idea how they built Machu Picchu is not completely true. There are many publications and media productions that offer explanations other than extraterrestrial origins. https://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.edu/anthpubs/ucb/text/nap021-006.pdf

I guess the way things stand presently people will just have to decide for themselves if they believe that aliens have been or are presently engaged on earth. I still haven't seen enough to make me a believer.

My post clearly says that Occams razor is longsince on the side of all the pilots and astronauts with 1st person accounts... without adding conjecture regarding art, megaliths etc.

 

[Hunerwadel]

My post clearly says that Occams razor is longsince on the side of all the pilots and astronauts with 1st person accounts... without adding conjecture regarding art, megaliths etc.

I don't see how an explanation that is based on traveling through unknown light years of space, any amount of time or between dimensions can be considered a simple or most likely conclusion for any phenomenon that I've seen so far. Occam's razor IMO is not on the side of ET.

When I really look at it I still haven't seen anything but a bunch of fuzzy images darting around on a screen. It's only marginally better than it was in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

These people showing up on pod casts and talk shows are just that. People talking. They really don't have any evidence of anything.

 

[volgr]

When you apply Occam's razor to Machu Picchu which is the simpler explanation? 1. Machu Picchu is a very good example of ancient ashlar masonry and craftsmanship by the Incas. 2. Aliens came to earth and either constructed Machu Picchu or provided the technology to the Incas to build it themselves.

I do understand that Occam's razor does not exclude less likely explanations from being correct.

To say that we have no idea how they built Machu Picchu is not completely true. There are many publications and media productions that offer explanations other than extraterrestrial origins. https://digitalassets.lib.berkeley.edu/anthpubs/ucb/text/nap021-006.pdf

I guess the way things stand presently people will just have to decide for themselves if they believe that aliens have been or are presently engaged on earth. I still haven't seen enough to make me a believer.

You left out option 3. There was an advanced civilization before ours that was almost entirely wiped out by a cataclysm.

 

[MemphisVol77]

When I really look at it I still haven't seen anything but a bunch of fuzzy images darting around on a screen. It's only marginally better than it was in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

These people showing up on pod casts and talk shows are just that. People talking. They really don't have any evidence of anything.

The bold is the point. The government needs to disclose the info they do have.

Do you have Netflix, there's a mini documentary series about 4 different UFO phenomenon instances. The one about the Texas Lights is what I'd recommend.

This had several first hand accounts from credible people. Amongst several witnesses featured about the Texas Lights were a pilot, a sheriff, and a newspaper editor who had been publicly cynical until she later witnessed the lights.

Now let's get to some actual evidence. After the story blew up in the papers, the closest army/airforce base announced that they'd been conducting test flights in the area. None of the witnesses retracted their statements or conceded that the Lights resembled military/conventional aircraft. A few weeks later the military base admitted no test flights had been conducted. The military gave no explanation as to how or why they'd inaccurately reported test flights initially.

The witness filed a FOI request with the FAA for the radar logs of all the airports in the area and along the direction the witnesses reported the lights moving. A few months later they received a ream of paper consisting of long numbers and decimals in charts, almost pure meta data. They seemed to imply the FAA intentionally formatted the data in a form difficult to decipher. They hired an outside radar specialist to help them parse the data. They ended up with several different radar stations confirming unregistered flights, matching the time and place of the Texas Lights reporting, moving at speeds beyond the abilities of any known conventional aircraft.

The FAA has since quit responding to FOI requests.

My Occams razor is scarier than aliens. The MIC has exceeded next generation tech, and is playing around with 3rd-5th level next generation tech.

 

[Hunerwadel]

The bold is the point. The government needs to disclose the info they do have.

Do you have Netflix, there's a mini documentary series about 4 different UFO phenomenon instances. The one about the Texas Lights is what I'd recommend.

This had several first hand accounts from credible people. Amongst several witnesses featured about the Texas Lights were a pilot, a sheriff, and a newspaper editor who had been publicly cynical until she later witnessed the lights.

Now let's get to some actual evidence. After the story blew up in the papers, the closest army/airforce base announced that they'd been conducting test flights in the area. None of the witnesses retracted their statements or conceded that the Lights resembled military/conventional aircraft. A few weeks later the military base admitted no test flights had been conducted. The military gave no explanation as to how or why they'd inaccurately reported test flights initially.

The witness filed a FOI request with the FAA for the radar logs of all the airports in the area and along the direction the witnesses reported the lights moving. A few months later they received a ream of paper consisting of long numbers and decimals in charts, almost pure meta data. They seemed to imply the FAA intentionally formatted the data in a form difficult to decipher. They hired an outside radar specialist to help them parse the data. They ended up with several different radar stations confirming unregistered flights, matching the time and place of the Texas Lights reporting, moving at speeds beyond the abilities of any known conventional aircraft.

The FAA has since quit responding to FOI requests.

My Occams razor is scarier than aliens. The MIC has exceeded next generation tech, and is playing around with 3rd-5th level next generation tech.

Thanks for the info. I agree with you about the MIC. They've always been further ahead than we know and even suspect. If aliens are here I hope they are friendly and looking out for us. We are the biggest threat to our own existence.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I don't see how an explanation that is based on traveling through unknown light years of space, any amount of time or between dimensions can be considered a simple or most likely conclusion for any phenomenon that I've seen so far. Occam's razor IMO is not on the side of ET.

When I really look at it I still haven't seen anything but a bunch of fuzzy images darting around on a screen. It's only marginally better than it was in the 60s, 70s and 80s.

These people showing up on pod casts and talk shows are just that. People talking. They really don't have any evidence of anything.

And you are welcome to that opinion. I get it.

I take the 1st hand accounts of several different astronauts (which match the audio etc of the events if not video) 1st hand accounts of pilots from many countries going all the way back as long as there have been military planes, current US military pilots from both the AF and Navy ...off both coasts....that also have multi-sensor freaking videos in camera footage AND FLIR of the actual crafts doing **** NOTHING manmade has ever done..... i dont dismiss that as " just some people talking."

Know how hard it is to get into the USAFA or Naval Academy ???

LMFAO. Grades and SAT/ACTS of Harvard but also letter in at least 1 varsity sport, be in several civic/ student leadership groups, never get in a freaking stitch of trouble like detention etc and you have a shot....IF you can get 1 of the senators or congressmen from your home state to nominate you. Only the "best of the best". So IF you're pretty much great at everything and pull all THAT off and get into say Colorado Springs....guess what % of guys get to fly jets?? Fighter pilots? It varies year to year based on who retires/ what breaks down etc but its not 10%. So only " the Best. Of the Best of the Best." So these guys spend literally decades of total sacrifice to achieve this goal...to be a tiny % of the tiny % of humans that actually get to be like Maverick from Top Gun and get paid to fly fighter planes....

And you think that MANY of these guys who spent their entire lives working to get their asses in a jet...are gonna go on the record daying they saw UFOs, knowing that they will be ridiculed by folks like you...and that they have absolutely NOTHING to gain from it right?? What have ANY of these pilots and astronauts gained ? That so many of them are gonna be willing to throw away their credibility to a large % of the people hearing them...just for???
For what reason exactly?

That's just "some people talking"??

You dont think the astronauts who go on record about these UFOs are ostracized? You dont think the pilots get messed with endlessly from that day on by anyone EXCEPT all the other pilots that actually tracked entire formations of them for MONTHS off both coasts of the US?

Thats the difference between our opinions. I dont think eyewitness testimony from all those dudes that are honestly smarter, stronger, and better in most every measurable way by far than the average human to begin with....about things in their exact field of expertise (flying crafts) who stand only to lose bigly by speaking up with no discernable gain possible....I just dont think thats " just some people talking". Especially when backed up with videos from their jets showing stuff that humans have never admitted to having or ever had captured on film before. I totally understand other people not believing. Skepticism is a good thing too. I just think theres too many folks with too much to lose for these craft to be from Earth.

 

[Hunerwadel]

And you are welcome to that opinion. I get it.

I take the 1st hand accounts of several different astronauts (which match the audio etc of the events if not video) 1st hand accounts of pilots from many countries going all the way back as long as there have been military planes, current US military pilots from both the AF and Navy ...off both coasts....that also have multi-sensor freaking videos in camera footage AND FLIR of the actual crafts doing **** NOTHING manmade has ever done..... i dont dismiss that as " just some people talking."

Know how hard it is to get into the USAFA or Naval Academy ???

LMFAO. Grades and SAT/ACTS of Harvard but also letter in at least 1 varsity sport, be in several civic/ student leadership groups, never get in a freaking stitch of trouble like detention etc and you have a shot....IF you can get 1 of the senators or congressmen from your home state to nominate you. Only the "best of the best". So IF you're pretty much great at everything and pull all THAT off and get into say Colorado Springs....guess what % of guys get to fly jets?? Fighter pilots? It varies year to year based on who retires/ what breaks down etc but its not 10%. So only " the Best. Of the Best of the Best." So these guys spend literally decades of total sacrifice to achieve this goal...to be a tiny % of the tiny % of humans that actually get to be like Maverick from Top Gun and get paid to fly fighter planes....

And you think that MANY of these guys who spent their entire lives working to get their asses in a jet...are gonna go on the record daying they saw UFOs, knowing that they will be ridiculed by folks like you...and that they have absolutely NOTHING to gain from it right?? What have ANY of these pilots and astronauts gained ? That so many of them are gonna be willing to throw away their credibility to a large % of the people hearing them...just for???
For what reason exactly?

That's just "some people talking"??

You dont think the astronauts who go on record about these UFOs are ostracized? You dont think the pilots get messed with endlessly from that day on by anyone EXCEPT all the other pilots that actually tracked entire formations of them for MONTHS off both coasts of the US?

Thats the difference between our opinions. I dont think eyewitness testimony from all those dudes that are honestly smarter, stronger, and better in most every measurable way by far than the average human to begin with....about things in their exact field of expertise (flying crafts) who stand only to lose bigly by speaking up with no discernable gain possible....I just dont think thats " just some people talking". Especially when backed up with videos from their jets showing stuff that humans have never admitted to having or ever had captured on film before. I totally understand other people not believing. Skepticism is a good thing too. I just think theres too many folks with too much to lose for these craft to be from Earth.

I don't believe I have ridiculed anyone. Of course these pilots and others are seeing things that they cannot identify and explain. But that's the point. They can't identify them. I don't care what they look like or how they appear to be maneuvering. You just can't go from I don't know what that is to it must be ET.

You talk about the tiny % of a % of a % of the people who get into one of the Academies and go on to be a fighter pilots. Well, even a tinier percent of those pilots go onto pod casts and talk shows to speak of these things they are seeing. Do I think all of them are embellishing or lying? No. Do I think some of them are? Yes. Some of these pilots, others in government and the MIC are hinting that alien biologics and crafts have been recovered. It may be true. But until they announce it and make at least some of this material available for scientific study and peer review I'm not buying it.

I know you know you that people have been seeing and reporting these things literally for millennia. Do you know how much physical evidence we have? You know that also. It's zero, none, nada, nothing. At least it is zero until someone brings something verifiable forward.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

I don't believe I have ridiculed anyone. Of course these pilots and others are seeing things that they cannot identify and explain. But that's the point. They can't identify them. I don't care what they look like or how they appear to be maneuvering. You just can't go from I don't know what that is to it must be ET.

You talk about the tiny % of a % of a % of the people who get into one of the Academies and go on to be a fighter pilots. Well, even a tinier percent of those pilots go onto pod casts and talk shows to speak of these things they are seeing. Do I think all of them are embellishing or lying? No. Do I think some of them are? Yes. Some of these pilots, others in government and the MIC are hinting that alien biologics and crafts have been recovered. It may be true. But until they announce it and make at least some of this material available for scientific study and peer review I'm not buying it.

I know you know you that people have been seeing and reporting these things literally for millennia. Do you know how much physical evidence we have? You know that also. It's zero, none, nada, nothing. At least it is zero until someone brings something verifiable forward.

This is all totally reasonable man and i understand. Didnt intend to make you feel like I was criticizing you personally either. Everyone is welcome to form their own opinions and voice them in our great Nation. We are surely blessed to live in this time and be born free in the USA.

I am not saying these crafts are definitely from another planet. They could very well be from another time...either in the future or a far more advanced civilization that was from Earth in the past. We have no idea what was here even 20,000 years ago. Any remnants of then would be buried so far underground that we have not come across them. Scientists are finding all kinds of megalithic structures right now using ground penetrating radar that just came out....and even that doesnt go nearly far enough into the ground to see back far....yet.

There are lots of accounts from pilots and others about the ocean starting to basically boil and then ships emerging straight from the water....to fly straight vertically often out of sight towards the stars. We know so very little about whats in our own oceans that a civilization more advanced than ours with superior technology cohld certainly have a base or colony in our oceans that we have not discovered. I dont think its a coincidence that fighter pilots on both coasts of the US have had the most interactions with crafts...nor that the best video and FLIR so far released has all been filmed over the Atlantic or the Pacific oceans. Whats so damn frustrating is the government not releasing what they have. The former director of intelligence for the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump openly admitted in interviews that the footage released by the Navy and USAF was nothing compared to what they have. When asked what he meant, he stated that they have photos taken from as close as 50ft from the pilots canopies on these jets that are shocking in comparison. Point blank photos.

I want that stuff released. This isnt 1940. The majority of Americans polled recently at least believe in the real possibility of UFOs/ETs. The whole world will not burn because some evidence is released. Anyone with the technology to travel across time or space and arrive here is already so far ahead of us that theres no use in worrying over them. Either they're benevolent and will leave us alone, or they will wreck us with ease so why worry over it hahaha ?

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Lex is a brilliant interviewer that asks great questions. There are several times in each podcast i think " great question" and " great comment". He is a person who like Joe Rogan seems born to do this job.

Note a few facts from this interview:

Pilot literally has nothing to gain. Not fame, not $$$ , nothing.

These encounters occurred over entire deployments and still do. The UFOs havent gone anywhere.

These are huge formations and swarms of craft. Not a ship here or there.

These craft are tracked not just on radar, visual cameras, and FLIR weapons systems....but by multiple ships in carrier battle groups who then dispatch fighters to go intercept them. They are a threat to national security, pilot safety, fleet safety etc.
**note that the pilots who flew right past 1 finally able to see them and it was "a dark cube inside a clear sphere" there is also Navy video footage I have seen that shows this exact type of UFO. Again...NO wings, no visible propulsion etc


Nobody in the Navy or USAF denies their existence or disputes any of the claims these pilots make....in fact the opposite is true. The Navy admits they have no idea what the Hell they are and released the videos via the US govt.

Also:
No nation on Earth claims to have these craft. Even our enemies who LOVE to parade ANY new military hardware they get in front of their citizens to "sabre rattle". None of them claim to have aircraft with literally ANY of the capabilities mentioned here or released in videos such as no visible propulsion, the ability to withstand incredible G forces, the ability to accelerate and change directions MANY times faster than our F22s even, nor the ability to fly at speed from the sky into the ocean submerged...then fly right back out unharmed. There is US Navy video showing ALL OF THESE abilities.

 

[marcusluvsvols]

Another Lex interview. There are many. These are both regarding UFOs and there are more.

 

[davethevol]

Lex is a brilliant interviewer that asks great questions. There are several times in each podcast i think " great question" and " great comment". He is a person who like Joe Rogan seems born to do this job.

Note a few facts from this interview:

Pilot literally has nothing to gain. Not fame, not $$$ , nothing.

These encounters occurred over entire deployments and still do. The UFOs havent gone anywhere.

These are huge formations and swarms of craft. Not a ship here or there.

These craft are tracked not just on radar, visual cameras, and FLIR weapons systems....but by multiple ships in carrier battle groups who then dispatch fighters to go intercept them. They are a threat to national security, pilot safety, fleet safety etc.
**note that the pilots who flew right past 1 finally able to see them and it was "a dark cube inside a clear sphere" there is also Navy video footage I have seen that shows this exact type of UFO. Again...NO wings, no visible propulsion etc


Nobody in the Navy or USAF denies their existence or disputes any of the claims these pilots make....in fact the opposite is true. The Navy admits they have no idea what the Hell they are and released the videos via the US govt.

Also:
No nation on Earth claims to have these craft. Even our enemies who LOVE to parade ANY new military hardware they get in front of their citizens to "sabre rattle". None of them claim to have aircraft with literally ANY of the capabilities mentioned here or released in videos such as no visible propulsion, the ability to withstand incredible G forces, the ability to accelerate and change directions MANY times faster than our F22s even, nor the ability to fly at speed from the sky into the ocean submerged...then fly right back out unharmed. There is US Navy video showing ALL OF THESE abilities.

That last paragraph is an excellent point. Can you imagine what Russia or China would do if they had this technology and they were the ones flying these crafts?