U.S. Has UFOs of 'Non-Human Origin', Ex-Intelligence Officer Claims

Does the .gov have Alien tech?

  • Yes

    Votes: 41 32.0%

  • No

    Votes: 32 25.0%

  • Maybe

    Votes: 18 14.1%

  • It's Trumps Fault

    Votes: 17 13.3%

  • Yes, but also....Pie

    Votes: 9 7.0%

  • No, but also... Pie

    Votes: 11 8.6%
  • Total voters
    128
#676
#676
marcusluvsvols said:
Best people Ive known in my entire lifetime were/are from the hills and valleys of East Tennessee. Hands down. If there were twice (or 10x) as many folks like that in this country we would be in much better shape IMO. God bless the Hillbilly folks...they definitely talk differently though.
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So what is the difference between a Hillbilly and a redneck? I identify as a redneck.
 
#679
#679
ET abductions have been well documented for decades. This seems to surprise many people.

"NOVA: So tell us, please, how literally you intend people to take this? Are you suggesting people are really being snatched from their beds by aliens and experiments on board a spaceship?

MACK: Just how literally to take this, is one of the most interesting and complex aspects of this. And I want to walk through that as clearly as I can. There are aspects of this which I believe we are justified in taking quite literally. That is, UFOs are in fact observed, filmed on camera at the same time that people are having their abduction experiences..."


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John E. Mack - Wikipedia

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#681
#681
For those that believe, take a moment to think about the spacetime physics required for the conventional narrative to be true.

If you plead for alternative physics, think about how that meshes with the purported "alien" encounters.
 
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#682
#682
PKT_VOL said:
For those that believe, take a moment to think about the spacetime physics required for the conventional narrative to be true.

If you plead for alternative physics, think about how that meshes with the purported "alien" encounters.
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Non comprehendo
 
#687
#687
We have groups of people that believe for 70 years the space program is a hoax. We never went to the moon. Mans rockets cannot pierce the firmament so space travel is a facility.

The earth is flat. They point to old maps and books for evidence.

It's quite possible these old maps and books are not accurate.



We have groups of people that believe aliens have visited us. ( Apparently they can pierce the firmament) 😉

They live among us/ lizard people. Etc. The human race was created by Aliens.

You would think the aliens would show us how to be kinder to our fellow man and stop killing each other by the 1000s daily.



We have groups of people that believe the " aliens" are the work of Satan and demons.



We have groups of people that believe the space program is real. We've visited the moon and man has limitations to our capabilities.



It is an interesting
time to be living in.
 
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#693
#693
Zues1 said:
We have groups of people that believe for 70 years the space program is a hoax. We never went to the moon. Mans rockets cannot pierce the firmament so space travel is a facility.

The earth is flat. They point to old maps and books for evidence.

It's quite possible these old maps and books are not accurate.



We have groups of people that believe aliens have visited us. ( Apparently they can pierce the firmament) 😉

They live among us/ lizard people. Etc. The human race was created by Aliens.

You would think the aliens would show us how to be kinder to our fellow man and stop killing each other by the 1000s daily.



We have groups of people that believe the " aliens" are the work of Satan and demons.



We have groups of people that believe the space program is real. We've visited the moon and man has limitations to our capabilities.



It is an interesting
time to be living in.
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If aliens existed, you understand they would need to be able to travel lightspeed if they lived in other systems. It still take years and years to make it to earth.
 
#694
#694
dalton_vol said:
If aliens existed, you understand they would need to be able to travel lightspeed if they lived in other systems. It still take years and years to make it to earth.
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I wholeheartedly understand that.
Obviously others do not
😏👍
 
#695
#695
dalton_vol said:
If aliens existed, you understand they would need to be able to travel lightspeed if they lived in other systems. It still take years and years to make it to earth.
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Some might. Most don't. Time is a physical reality illusion.

1) ETs, for the most part, live in a timeless environment.

2)




Bashar - Teleportation Location Variable.jpg
 
#697
#697
dalton_vol said:
If aliens existed, you understand they would need to be able to travel lightspeed if they lived in other systems. It still take years and years to make it to earth.
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^^^ theres a whole lot of assumptions baked into this statement. Most notably the assumption that for some reason our CURRENT understanding of science, physics and our standard model which posits that the speed of light is the absolute "speed limit" of the universe are 100% correct. I can blow HUGE holes in that assumption with only 2 points:

1. The standard model of physics (our current understanding of the universe around us...based mostly on Einstein's theory of relativity) is so flawed that we had to make up "dark matter" and "dark energy" because 95% of the mass necessary in the observable universe is MISSING. ninety five percent. 95% of the black holes, stars, planets, galaxies...you name it...95% of them are missing. That means we actually have no idea what the Hell is going on around us. We havent even explored 90% of the oceans on planet Earth for Petes sake.

2. We have demonstrated that the information between pairs of quantum particles travels FASTER than the speed of light. It happens instantly best we can tell...when the spin of 1 particle changes...the spin of its pair changes instantly even when 1 particle is on Earth and 1 is in a satellite in space. Bye bye "speed limit."
 
#699
#699
marcusluvsvols said:
^^^ theres a whole lot of assumptions baked into this statement. Most notably the assumption that for some reason our CURRENT understanding of science, physics and our standard model which posits that the speed of light is the absolute "speed limit" of the universe are 100% correct. I can blow HUGE holes in that assumption with only 2 points:

1. The standard model of physics (our current understanding of the universe around us...based mostly on Einstein's theory of relativity) is so flawed that we had to make up "dark matter" and "dark energy" because 95% of the mass necessary in the observable universe is MISSING. ninety five percent. 95% of the black holes, stars, planets, galaxies...you name it...95% of them are missing. That means we actually have no idea what the Hell is going on around us. We havent even explored 90% of the oceans on planet Earth for Petes sake.
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This would not effect the causality limit that the speed of light represents.

marcusluvsvols said:
2. We have demonstrated that the information between pairs of quantum particles travels FASTER than the speed of light. It happens instantly best we can tell...when the spin of 1 particle changes...the spin of its pair changes instantly even when 1 particle is on Earth and 1 is in a satellite in space. Bye bye "speed limit."
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This isn't true. Entangled particles are not distinct and thus information does not travel at faster than light.

Aliens' best bet exploitation of nonlocality or other dimensions. However, that doesn't mesh well with alleged UFO sightings.
 
#700
#700
PKT_VOL said:
This would not effect the causality limit that the speed of light represents.

You have far more formal education than me, i never went to college. How does the fact that the Mass in the equation E=MC2 is missing 95% ( i read 85% before the JWST was in use but 95% recently) not invalidate the entire equation? You just give scientists a pass when they propose that the other 95% of all the mass in the universe is certainly out there...we just cant see it or detect it with any instrument that has ever been invented by mankind? How many millions of dollars have been spent on projects now trying to detect this fictional dark matter or dark energy? The word "dark" is interchangeable with "bullcrap" at this point despite dozens of different studies conducted all around and beneath Earths crust trying to detect it right? Do you just have faith (i know thats a dirty word) that it exists?
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^^^ typed that in wrong place sorry.

PKT_VOL said:
This isn't true. Entangled particles are not distinct and thus information does not travel at faster than light.
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Help me understand this PKT maybe I misunderstood the experiment that I read about. My understanding was that they took 2 electrons that were quantum paired...in which when 1 electron spun in a downward direction, the other electron always spun in an upwards direction of rotation....kept 1 of those electrons in a lab on Earth and sent the other 1 to space onboard a satellite traveling around the planet....and while observing both electrons simultaneously and changing the spin direction of the electron on Earth from down to upwards that the other electron hundreds of miles apart immediately and instantaneously also changed its spin to the opposite direction as well. Same as they do when they are right next to eachother. Some type of "information" or whatever the Hell you want to call it absolutely had to travel the distance between those 2 electrons in order for the electron that was in orbit to "know" to also reverse the direction of its spin when the electron on Earth reversed. As ole Einstein called it "spooky action at a distance". Something travelled that distance. Hell maybe it was "dark information" hahaha but something did in order for the other electron to change right? Whatever means that information travelled there, it did it faster than the speed of light from what I read...because it did it either instantly, or so close to instantly that we could not measure any time passing? How are those 2 electrons not " "distinct"? 1 electron is not distinct. 2 separate electrons are always distinct right? Theres 2 of them. If there arent 2 separate (distinct) electrons then i misunderstood the entire experiment ?


PKT_VOL said:
Aliens' best bet exploitation of nonlocality or other dimensions. However, that doesn't mesh well with alleged UFO sightings.
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I agree with this for the most part. The craft that the navy has been tracking could be from another time...another dimension...another universe...some of them could be spiritual beings as well. I have no idea and there are several distinct kinds such as the " tic tacs" that travel thru air AND the oceans at great speed, the "cube inside clear spheres" that also have no visible means of propulsion and don't seem to be affected by gravity...then other types just appear to be strange lights that move in crazy fast speeds and change of direction.
 
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