U.S. Launches Millitary Strike Against Syria (merged)

Do you agree with Trump's decision to strike Syria?

  • Total voters
    0
  • Poll closed .
#327
#327
lawgator1 said:
True. And other than a couple of muted calls for Congressional confirmation next time, they are largely in wait and see mode before they pick a side. Also scum.
Click to expand...

The difference being is the DNC leadership has already hedged their bets with Trump in mind. Both statements from Pelosi and Schumer said "okay, good job, but with any continuation of this, we need to be consulted."

Trump does need to speak with the leadership of both parties as soon as he gets done with his current summit. Hopefully he has a plan for going forward.
 
#328
#328
BearCat204 said:
Lol, I just typed and deleted and typed and deleted something about 4 times on what we are currently doing and prepping for in that Theatre. Thought it was best that I probably don't post specifics lol.
Click to expand...

Okay, you know we hate secrets on this site. So, go all Snowden and let us know what you're pulling out of those bunkers down in Alabubba. :)
 
#329
#329
Grand Vol said:
Okay, you know we hate secrets on this site. So, go all Snowden and let us know what you're pulling out of those bunkers down in Alabubba. :)
Click to expand...

All I got is that we are resurrecting a ton of Bradley's and giving Raytheon a ton of money lol.
 
#330
#330
BearCat204 said:
All I got is that we are resurrecting a ton of Bradley's and giving Raytheon a ton of money lol.
Click to expand...

giphy.gif
 
#331
#331
BearCat204 said:
All I got is that we are resurrecting a ton of Bradley's and giving Raytheon a ton of money lol.
Click to expand...

On a related, though distinctly different subject, has the Big Army pretty much given up on the Striker? Seems like it was a one trick pony and too expensive for current operations.
 
#332
#332
utvols88 said:
I asked for a link. Not an excerpt of your choosing. Also, that's a vary vague paragraph. What of Russias was damaged. I also don't see an article stating such.
Click to expand...

Outer Banks, you still haven't provided a link or anything outside of conjecture.
 
#333
#333
out of curiosity, can someone offer a speculative reason as to why they think Assad would use chemical weapons on his people? And I'm not being sarcastic, I'd just like to hear opinions on this.
 
#334
#334
Grand Vol said:
On a related, though distinctly different subject, has the Big Army pretty much given up on the Striker? Seems like it was a one trick pony and too expensive for current operations.
Click to expand...

Not 100% sure. That's a APV project office toy and I know back in 2008 we were sending TOW for Stryker Brigades, but haven't since then. Not sure if that's an indicator that the program is going away or if they just don't need the capability of TOW with Stryker.
 
#335
#335
theFallGuy said:
out of curiosity, can someone offer a speculative reason as to why they think Assad would use chemical weapons on his people? And I'm not being sarcastic, I'd just like to hear opinions on this.
Click to expand...

Outside of "Assad is a bad guy," there really isn't a great motive for him to do so.

He probably did it, given by all accounts the weapons were dropped from fighter jets.
 
#336
#336
Grand Vol said:
The difference being is the DNC leadership has already hedged their bets with Trump in mind. Both statements from Pelosi and Schumer said "okay, good job, but with any continuation of this, we need to be consulted."

Trump does need to speak with the leadership of both parties as soon as he gets done with his current summit. Hopefully he has a plan for going forward.
Click to expand...

laughing-gifs-foolish-human.gif
 
  • Like
Reactions: 3 people
#337
#337
theFallGuy said:
out of curiosity, can someone offer a speculative reason as to why they think Assad would use chemical weapons on his people? And I'm not being sarcastic, I'd just like to hear opinions on this.
Click to expand...

Few of trains of thought:

1. He's bat**** crazy and thinks it's the only way he can get rid of some of his opposition. (Saddam option #1)

2. He's bat**** crazy and uses it as a weapon of terror to keep the opposition from going against his government. (Saddam Option #2)

3. He's bat**** crazy and thinks he can do anything with the Russians backing him. (Get out of jail free card option)

4. He's not bat**** crazy, but a commander of his is bat**** crazy and used the weapons without approval. (extremely unlikely) However, being that he declared all weapons were removed some years ago, he would be shown to have lied about the matter. (I really wish I could say "it wasn't me!" but they will know I was lying and that will backfire bigly on me Option)
 
#341
#341
Grand Vol said:
Few of trains of thought:

1. He's bat**** crazy and thinks it's the only way he can get rid of some of his opposition. (Saddam option #1)

2. He's bat**** crazy and uses it as a weapon of terror to keep the opposition from going against his government. (Saddam Option #2)

3. He's bat**** crazy and thinks he can do anything with the Russians backing him. (Get out of jail free card option)

4. He's not bat**** crazy, but a commander of his is bat**** crazy and used the weapons without approval. (extremely unlikely) However, being that he declared all weapons were removed some years ago, he would be shown to have lied about the matter. (I really wish I could say "it wasn't me!" but they will know I was lying and that will backfire bigly on me Option)
Click to expand...

another option is that he really doesn't see them as his people and so he has zero reason to care one way or the other. kinda ties to your number 1. its rebel held territory, after what they did in Aleppo I can't say I am too surprised it happened.
 
#344
#344
lawgator1 said:
Obama wanted to do what Trump did. It was more important to the GOP to gain some political advantage over Obama than to okay it if it was best course.
Click to expand...

You really think Obama didn't follow through on his "red line" threat because a GOP-controlled Congress wouldn't authorize it?
 
#345
#345
LouderVol said:
another option is that he really doesn't see them as his people and so he has zero reason to care one way or the other. kinda ties to your number 1. its rebel held territory, after what they did in Aleppo I can't say I am too surprised it happened.
Click to expand...

Combination of 1 and 2 I would think. But valid point.
 
#347
#347
lawgator1 said:
Obama wanted to do what Trump did. It was more important to the GOP to gain some political advantage over Obama than to okay it if it was best course.
Click to expand...

If you believe that he wanted to or was ever going to do what Trump just ordered, you are further gone than I originally thought.
 
#348
#348
Grand Vol said:
4. He's not bat**** crazy, but a commander of his is bat**** crazy and used the weapons without approval. (extremely unlikely) However, being that he declared all weapons were removed some years ago, he would be shown to have lied about the matter. (I really wish I could say "it wasn't me!" but they will know I was lying and that will backfire bigly on me Option)
Click to expand...

Why do you think #4 is extremely unlikely? I do wonder what kind of command and control authority he has over his own military.
 
#349
#349
05_never_again said:
Why do you think #4 is extremely unlikely? I do wonder what kind of command and control authority he has over his own military.
Click to expand...

I can only guess he is allowing the generals to do whatever they want. He would be very easy to topple if the military turned on him.
 
#350
#350
So exactly why did Trump change his mind? Was it the video of the kids? If so, that opens a whole can of worms. If not, then what was it that made him change his mind? With the limited knowledge I have, I think he probably made the right decision. Again, I'm just curious about the mechanics of such an abrupt change of mind.
 
New posts
You must log in or register to reply here.

VN Store



Back
Top