U.S. Launches Millitary Strike Against Syria (merged)

Do you agree with Trump's decision to strike Syria?

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n_huffhines said:
I'm pretty positive he's sided with Trump in the past.

IIRC, Carlos is fairly big on intervention...maybe not in every case, but he does hate Russia a lot and this is sort of a slight against Russia.
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I'm not big on intervention. When John Bolton was advocating for regime change in Iran I was firmly against it. In the case of Syria, with multiple uses of chemical weapons, and the deaths of over 500,000 people I have a hard time not making a case for regime change there. Trump did what Obama failed to do. The use of chemical weapons is a line in the sand. Assad crossed it and Trump responded the correct way. Obama's failure to strike Assad the first time set things in motion that have yet to be corrected.
 
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carlos86 said:
I'm not big on intervention. When John Bolton was advocating for regime change in Iran I was firmly against it. In the case of Syria, with multiple uses of chemical weapons, and the deaths of over 500,000 people I have a hard time not making a case for regime change there. Trump did what Obama failed to do. The use of chemical weapons is a line in the sand. Assad crossed it and Trump responded the correct way. Obama's failure to strike Assad the first time set things in motion that have yet to be corrected.
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Would you stop being so reasonable and give us a "Trump sucks!" or something?

We're getting a bit uncomfortable in here...
 
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Wait....who's suggesting that a regime change is the endgame here? I don't think this strike has anything to do with wanting a regime change there. JMO
 
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BearCat204 said:
Wait....who's suggesting that a regime change is the endgame here? I don't think this strike has anything to do with wanting a regime change there. JMO
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A couple days before the attacks the State Department and White House agreed that the U.S. policy toward Syria and Assad would be for him to stay in power has long as Russia had him on a leash. Well, Assad got off his leash and Russia had to attempt to clean his mess up. Now the U.S. policy toward Assad and Syria is that as long as Assad is in power there is no resolution to the conflict in Syria.
 
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carlos86 said:
A couple days before the attacks the State Department and White House agreed that the U.S. policy toward Syria and Assad would be for him to stay in power has long as Russia had him on a leash. Well, Assad got off his leash and Russia had to attempt to clean his mess up. Now the U.S. policy toward Assad and Syria is that as long as Assad is in power there is no resolution to the conflict in Syria.
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No, the new US policy towards Assad is that if he continues with his barrel bombings, the US will use further action. There is nothing that points to the US shifting policy to actually removing Assad.
 
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I know I mentioned the devastating affect that Barrel Bombs can do a few times that are being dropped by Syria and Russia. Now you have Spicer today saying if they are used the US will respond.
 
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BearCat204 said:
No, the new US policy towards Assad is that if he continues with his barrel bombings, the US will use further action. There is nothing that points to the US shifting policy to actually removing Assad.
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This was was yesterday from Nikki Haley.

"Getting Assad out is not the only priority. So what we're trying to do is obviously defeat ISIS. Secondly, we don't see a peaceful Syria with Assad in there. Thirdly, get the Iranian influence out. And then finally move towards a political solution, because at the end of the day this is a complicated situation, there are no easy answers and a political solution is going to have to happen,"

"In no way do we look at peace happening in that area with Iranian influence. In no way do we see peace in that area with Russia covering up for Assad. In no way do we see peace in that area with Assad as the head of the Syrian government."
 
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volinbham said:
Ben Carson is a "senior US official" - might have been doing one of his off the cuff explanations like prisons turning you gay or grain storage in the Pyramids?
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Hey, I give Carson the mad props for discovering that huge amount of waste in his department. He may not be very "Presidential" but he sure seems to be working out okay in the drain the swamp mode.
 
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Velo Vol said:
Our friends the Russians

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Lulz..
 
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Grand Vol said:
Hey, I give Carson the mad props for discovering that huge amount of waste in his department. He may not be very "Presidential" but he sure seems to be working out okay in the drain the swamp mode.
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hate to be ye ole bubble burster but the audit was underway before he got there and the IG has been reporting this stuff for 3 years.

I like BC and hope he takes action but he didn't have much to do with this.
 
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carlos86 said:
This was was yesterday from Nikki Haley.

"Getting Assad out is not the only priority. So what we're trying to do is obviously defeat ISIS. Secondly, we don't see a peaceful Syria with Assad in there. Thirdly, get the Iranian influence out. And then finally move towards a political solution, because at the end of the day this is a complicated situation, there are no easy answers and a political solution is going to have to happen,"

"In no way do we look at peace happening in that area with Iranian influence. In no way do we see peace in that area with Russia covering up for Assad. In no way do we see peace in that area with Assad as the head of the Syrian government."
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That's her opinion and not the US policy in Syria. If it were, you would have seen a much different strike there General.
 
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BearCat204 said:
That's her opinion and not the US policy in Syria. If it were, you would have seen a much different strike there General.
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Well if its her opinion than it is correct. There is no logical way Assad can stay in power. He really can't stay in power if the Russians can't control him. They didn't let Slobodan Milošević stay in power. Why should Assad???
 
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BearCat204 said:
No, the new US policy towards Assad is that if he continues with his barrel bombings, the US will use further action. There is nothing that points to the US shifting policy to actually removing Assad.
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Wow. This speaks volumes about the Trump admin's ignorance (not picking on you). A barrel bomb has NOTHING to do with chemical attacks in Syria, nor were they used in the recent attack that prompted our missiles. Barrel bombs are explosives. Now stupid Spicer and company have just made their "policy" that much more confused and patently ignorant.
 
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