U.S. Navy Not Fit For War

[hog88]

We should be purchasing Japan’s Taigei class submarines by the bushel.

And South Korea’s Aegis equipped destroyers.

No, we should bar retired O-6 and above retirees from working for defense contractors and eliminate the union labor requirement from shipbuilding.

 

[Orangeburst]

No, we should bar retired O-6 and above retirees from working for defense contractors and eliminate the union labor requirement from shipbuilding.

you probably know welding well..look at that photo I posted on that brand new multi billion dollar Burke..does that look like craftsmanship to you?

 

[hog88]

you probably know welding well..look at that photo I posted on that brand new multi billion dollar Burke..does that look like craftsmanship to you?

Where was that?

 

[85SugarVol]

Sad to see the arsenal of democracy become so hollow.
You are correct.we might as well let them build them rather than license them, spend a fortune modifying and years of delays.Like the new frigates.

Absolutely we should let them build them. Would do no good to “license” them and produce them here - we can’t replicate their production..

The Frigate. Holy hell. We licensed that - an existing, proven platform. Ostensibly to speed production.

The Navy, of course, insisted on gold plating the damn thing.
Last I read, less than 30% of the design still shared commonality with the original platform…

 

[Orangeburst]

Where was that?

few posts ago on this thread

 

[85SugarVol]

No, we should bar retired O-6 and above retirees from working for defense contractors and eliminate the union labor requirement from shipbuilding.

That would help too.

We still need the Virginia’s and Burke’s domestically produced here.

 

[85SugarVol]

Where was that?

 

[hog88]

That would help too.

We still need the Virginia’s and Burke’s domestically produced here.

Everything in our military needs to be produced here. Production should be open to union and non union shops.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

US Navy secretary says he was 'floored' by a Pacific ally's shipbuilding abilities amid American warship production woes

Amid US Navy ship delays and other problems, Carlos Del Toro said South Korea and Japan could build warships on schedule at a fraction of the cost and time.

www.yahoo.com

jusy who are these clowns..has it not been known that SK has been one of the worlds largest shipbuilders for decades. We are run by morons.

I'm a fool and a tool when I say the exact same thing, though.

Our MIC is driven by low volume and high profits vs high volume and lower profits.

 

[hog88]

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Don’t know what I’m looking at/for.

 

[Orangeburst]

Don’t know what I’m looking at/for.

The Latest On The SPY-6 Radar That's Set To Dominate The Navy's Future Fleet

We talked with Raytheon's Scott Spence about the state of the program as classes of ships are setting sail with the radar for the first time.

www.twz.com

welds on superstucture..gotta zoom

 

[85SugarVol]

Don’t know what I’m looking at/for.

I don’t know welding. But I assume he’s talking about the main weld left of the radar.

 

[85SugarVol]

Everything in our military needs to be produced here. Production should be open to union and non union shops.

In a perfect world, yes.

But we can’t keep up.
Japan & South Korea share our common foe.
Japan & South Korea build really good boats. And they cost a hell of a lot less than ours.

We should be utilizing their capacity to augment our production.

 

[hog88]

The Latest On The SPY-6 Radar That's Set To Dominate The Navy's Future Fleet

We talked with Raytheon's Scott Spence about the state of the program as classes of ships are setting sail with the radar for the first time.

www.twz.com

welds on superstucture..gotta zoom

Ohh, yeah I’d reject a vac tank with those welds. Those look like something I did.

 

[Orangeburst]

Ohh, yeah I’d reject a vac tank with those welds. Those look like something I did.

we are DOOMED..

 

[hog88]

In a perfect world, yes.

But we can’t keep up.
Japan & South Korea share our common foe.
Japan & South Korea build really good boats. And they cost a hell of a lot less than ours.

We should be utilizing their capacity to augment our production.

I get the sentiment and don’t completely disagree since we are where we are in the trades but we should be working towards matching their capability instead of relying on them.

 

[85SugarVol]

you probably know welding well..look at that photo I posted on that brand new multi billion dollar Burke..does that look like craftsmanship to you?

South Korea’s Aegis destroyers do everything our Burke’s do.

They’re a little bit smaller.
And they’re just under $1B out the door.

 

[Orangeburst]

South Korea’s Aegis destroyers do everything our Burke’s do.

They’re a little bit smaller.
And they’re just under $1B out the door.

unreal..what we at now 3 Bills for an AB? Heck I remember a Nimtz for 4 Bill.

 

[85SugarVol]

I get the sentiment and don’t completely disagree since we are where we are in the trades but we should be working towards matching their capability instead of relying on them.

100% agree that we should be working to match their capability.

We aren’t. And show zero signs of improving.

Maybe outsourcing a few boats would provide the impetus needed for our domestic producers to get it in gear.

 

[85SugarVol]

unreal..what we at now 3 Bills for an AB? Heck I remember a Nimtz for 4 Bill.

The new Virginia Block IV is over $5B out the door.

 

[Orangeburst]

The new Virginia Block IV is over $5B out the door.

I was wrong..looks like the AB cost about 2B..the DDX is 3+B, if we are lucky.

 

[85SugarVol]

I was wrong..looks like the AB cost about 2B..the DDX is 3+B, if we are lucky.

I think it’s 2.2-2.4 for a new Burke. No way we get DDX rolling off the lines at $3B per…

 

[Orangeburst]

I think it’s 2.2-2.4 for a new Burke. No way we get DDX rolling off the lines at $3B per…

I would not think we need 12k tons either as loadouts wont be dramatically increased iirc..I know they are looking for electrical power though. At that displacement we get fewer and goes against distributed warfare that we have discussed.

They are gonna shoehorn that electric drive I am afraid…one AB already has it and it has been a failure from what I read.

Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers: Observations on the Navy's Hybrid Electric Drive Program

The Navy initiated a program to reduce fuel consumption on its latest destroyers by installing Hybrid Electric Drive systems. Since 2011, the Navy has...

www.gao.gov

 

[85SugarVol]

I would not think we need 12k tons either as loadouts wont be dramatically increased iirc..I know they are looking for electrical power though. At that displacement we get fewer and goes against distributed warfare that we have discussed.

They are gonna shoehorn that electric drive I am afraid…one AB already has it and it has been a failure from what I read.

Arleigh Burke Class Destroyers: Observations on the Navy's Hybrid Electric Drive Program

The Navy initiated a program to reduce fuel consumption on its latest destroyers by installing Hybrid Electric Drive systems. Since 2011, the Navy has...

www.gao.gov

I’m all for hybrid-electric. But not if the damn thing doesn’t work…

 

[207 others]

Have you seen our navy? Lmao. This is coming from a guy who lived in an off grid compound with a navy seal and a boiler room guy, i poked fun at the navy for years and they laugh their ass off every time. They know I know how incredible the navy was before the zionist takeover of our country.