UF issues

#52
#52
VolByBirth said:
I thought this might be relevant here. While it's about Tebow, it has a lot of information about our D as it palyed out in the UT/UF game. It's on ESPN, Todd McShay article.

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After taking a look at the film of Florida's 23-13 win over Tennessee there are still plenty of concerns about whether Gators QB Tim Tebow will be able to make a quick transition to the NFL.

Volunteers defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin came up with as good a game plan as possible against Florida's multiple weapons and wide-open scheme, giving Tebow a look at the kind of mixed coverages he will see at the next level. Tennessee often dropped seven or eight men into coverage and rushed only three or four and Tebow struggled for a variety of reasons.

First, the Vols did a good job of taking away his primary reads in the intermediate and deep areas of the field. That forced him to check down a lot and in many cases the rush was able to force Tebow to break the pocket. Tebow also seemed to struggle at times to recognize exactly what kind of zone coverage he was looking at, and that split-second indecision at times caused him to miss open receivers in other areas of the field. Tebow also turned the ball over twice and the second-quarter interception he threw to Vols S Eric Berry was a flat-out bad read.

It is important to note, though, that Tebow didn't get a lot of help from his receivers. The film showed a lot of Florida receivers running their initial routes but failing to adjust and work back to the quarterback if they didn't get open when they expected to. They are used to simply spreading the field and using their speed to get open and when that didn't happen Tebow was often left hanging, which often led to him tucking the ball and running.

From a college football standpoint Tebow showed tremendous competitiveness and courage and he took the game over by using his legs to take advantage of Tennessee dropping so many into coverage and giving him room to run. From an NFL scouting standpoint, however, this game only reinforces concerns about the very steep learning curve Tebow will face in the NFL. It is a similar situation to the one former No. 1 overall pick Alex Smith faced after running coach Urban Meyer's spread scheme during their time together at Utah.
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I think what some fans, both from UF and from other places, need to realize is that Tim Tebow is a unique player that does many things well, but not one single thing better than everyone else.

Tim Tebow is a strong runner, but he isn't as elusive or dangerous a runner as Montario Hardesty.
Tim Tebow is a strong passer, but not nearly as accurate as Colt McCoy.
Tim Tebow can read a defense, but not nearly as good as Sam Bradford.

For this reason, he may struggle in the NFL. I maintain a little optimism that his exceptional character and leadership skills will win him a starting job someday in the NFL, but realistically, it's hard to say right now.

He is like a jack-of-all-trades. He can do a little of everything, but isn't really great at any one thing. A little bit of everything beat UT last week, and will probably beat many more college teams before this year is over. But it might not translate to the NFL.
 
#53
#53
Some fans are just blinded by their irriational confidence and belief in their own school. Failing to see the obvious, followed making futile arguements that are lacking of any real substance and thought is common. Its ok to support your team, but for the sake of football itself at least view things through a somewhat neutral mind and see the good and bad instead of constantly trying to shove useless crap down someone elses throat.

UF is not what they were last year.

UF is lacking at wide reciever.

There are visibly 3 or 4 teams in the country that are as good as Florida, and possibly 2 that are better than Florida.


Prediction- This thread will be ressurected when UF falls in the SEC title game.
 
#54
#54
Hardwood_fanatic said:
Some fans are just blinded by their irriational confidence and belief in their own school. Failing to see the obvious, followed making futile arguements that are lacking of any real substance and thought is common. Its ok to support your team, but for the sake of football itself at least view things through a somewhat neutral mind and see the good and bad instead of constantly trying to shove useless crap down someone elses throat.

UF is not what they were last year.

UF is lacking at wide reciever.

There are visibly 3 or 4 teams in the country that are as good as Florida, and possibly 2 that are better than Florida.


Prediction- This thread will be ressurected when UF falls in the SEC title game.
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IDK about that. Florida is better now than they were at the same point last year. If Florida improves like they did last year around mid season, UF can still win it all.
 
#55
#55
AFL2008 said:
IDK about that. Florida is better now than they were at the same point last year. If Florida improves like they did last year around mid season, UF can still win it all.
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I can see that side of it. I think it remains to be seen yet, because two 50 point drubbings of inferior competition does not prove things one way or the other.

Some say Urban didn't want to throw it down field, some say they couldn't throw it down field. I don't see a valid arguement from ANYONE that could say that this years offense/recievers are better than last years. I think Florida did what they could, IMO.

Had UT marched an offense on the field with ANY big play capability at all, with a chance to move the ball consistently and score (while keeping UF off the field) this conversation could be drastically different.

Florida still has the talent to win it all, there's no question in that.
 
#56
#56
BigPapaVol said:
If you believe our defense is better than the Alabama defense that you will play in the SECCG, you're simply too idiotic to continue. Maybe you'll notice that they have interior linemen and linebackers that stop the run at the point of attack and are much quicker than Tebow.

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I'd say UT is a nice preview for what Bama will do against their O... but Bama can score points and hold the ball too.
 
#57
#57
Hardwood_fanatic said:
I can see that side of it. I think it remains to be seen yet, because two 50 point drubbings of inferior competition does not prove things one way or the other.

Some say Urban didn't want to throw it down field, some say they couldn't throw it down field. I don't see a valid arguement from ANYONE that could say that this years offense/recievers are better than last years. I think Florida did what they could, IMO.

Had UT marched an offense on the field with ANY big play capability at all, with a chance to move the ball consistently and score (while keeping UF off the field) this conversation could be drastically different.

Florida still has the talent to win it all, there's no question in that.
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And now we come back full circle to the beginning of this thread.

Was the UF offense contained? Or did UF play conservatively so as to not throw the game away?

Probably a little of both.

We won't know more until another team can replicate the performance.
 
#58
#58
after skimming through this thread a lil..it makes me wonder why some folks feel good about a double digit loss to UF then :unsure:
 
#59
#59
Mr. Two Bits
UF offense that threw the ball sparingly because they had a safe lead. Florida's "overrated" D has still allowed only 1 TD through 3 games.

Should have been two if Jones had not stepped out of the endzone then came back in.
Florida could lose three Conference games this year.
 
#60
#60
NCGatorBait said:
after skimming through this thread a lil..it makes me wonder why some folks feel good about a double digit loss to UF then :unsure:
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Not hard to understand. We were 5&7 last year with a coaching turnover. You guys won the NC. What is so hard to understand about that.
 
#62
#62
warrior said:
Mr. Two Bits
UF offense that threw the ball sparingly because they had a safe lead. Florida's "overrated" D has still allowed only 1 TD through 3 games.

Should have been two if Jones had not stepped out of the endzone then came back in.
Florida could lose three Conference games this year.
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:fool:
 
#63
#63
I think the Gators will give UK the epic beatdown they wish they could have given UT. You know, as long they don't have the flu. :D
 
#66
#66
NCGatorBait said:
after skimming through this thread a lil..it makes me wonder why some folks feel good about a double digit loss to UF then :unsure:
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I agree. I don't feel good. I feel like we've righted the ship, however, but I felt like that even after UCLA.
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