UF recruiting Woes

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Lawrence Wright said:
I interpreted the majority of posts as UF about to fall into the same abyss UT football fell into from 2008-2012, all because of a single recruiting cycle.
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No, but it certainly can start the trend downwards. While this recruiting class this year might not affect your standing immediately, it very likely could two years down the road. And with another 6-6 or worse season, athletes will consider other options besides UF.

McElwain needs to get a couple of higher rated players this class to salvage it. And knock the next one out of the park like CBJ did. Otherwise, you could be looking at a considerable slip.
 
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Grand Vol said:
No, but it certainly can start the trend downwards. While this recruiting class this year might not affect your standing immediately, it very likely could two years down the road. And with another 6-6 or worse season, athletes will consider other options besides UF.

McElwain needs to get a couple of higher rated players this class to salvage it. And knock the next one out of the park like CBJ did. Otherwise, you could be looking at a considerable slip.
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Agree with you...if McElwain doesn't pull in a Top 5-10 class next year, then it's time to get concerned.

This year it is what it is...Muschamp left a giant turd in the punch bowl and now he's convinced some major recruits someone else put it there.
 
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its a slipperly slope issue with me. and i compare it to Kiffins missing class and Dooleys year of no OL. those were just one year 'hiccups' that hit us longer than we expected. when this 'missing' class of florida should be juniors and seniors they will feel it.
 
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I started a UF low recruiting thread over a month ago and never dreamed it would still be this bad. UF's worst nightmare was Muschamp to Auburn. He's been bitterly pissing in your cheerios since. 99 is right though you guys will be having serious depth woes and should be filling the roster with any bodies possible even lower guys. McElwain got a lot out of lower guys at CSU so he should be able to do good evaluations.

I know most gator posters are level headed but your lack of posts versus normal indicates you're feeling this one.
 
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LouderVol said:
its a slipperly slope issue with me. and i compare it to Kiffins missing class and Dooleys year of no OL. those were just one year 'hiccups' that hit us longer than we expected. when this 'missing' class of florida should be juniors and seniors they will feel it.
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99 is right they are off the mountain and headed to depth woes unless it gets righted quickly. McElwain could do so next year with a huge class so I'm not calling for KO but damage control is in order.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Agree with you...if McElwain doesn't pull in a Top 5-10 class next year, then it's time to get concerned.

This year it is what it is...Muschamp left a giant turd in the punch bowl and now he's convinced some major recruits someone else put it there.
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I haven't really kept up with the individual recruiting at Auburn. Is Muschamp pulling in some decent recruits there?
 
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Grand Vol said:
I haven't really kept up with the individual recruiting at Auburn. Is Muschamp pulling in some decent recruits there?
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Our top targets Jefferson and Cowart appear to be following Muschamp to Auburn...possibly Ivey also.

Although there's some smoke about Jefferson being headed to Ole Miss.
 
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LouderVol said:
its a slipperly slope issue with me. and i compare it to Kiffins missing class and Dooleys year of no OL. those were just one year 'hiccups' that hit us longer than we expected. when this 'missing' class of florida should be juniors and seniors they will feel it.
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It was more to do with Fulmer's recruiting slacking, kiffin coming in and running depth off, most of his class not making it, and then precious signing classes full of kids that didn't have SEC talent. Put that all together and you end up with some of the most unathletic teams I've seen
 
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RetardedElf said:
It was more to do with Fulmer's recruiting slacking, kiffin coming in and running depth off, most of his class not making it, and then precious signing classes full of kids that didn't have SEC talent. Put that all together and you end up with some of the most unathletic teams I've seen
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So you're saying it took more than one subpar recruiting class to set UT back several years.
 
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Grand Vol said:
One sub par O Line class (or lack thereof) set our program back at least a year...
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That OL class was two head coaches removed from the origin of UT's recruiting woes.

UT's issues were the perfect storm of Fulmer getting lazy, coupled with Kiffin's toxic recruiting class and Dooley being Dooley.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
That OL class was two head coaches removed from the origin of UT's recruiting woes.

UT's issues were the perfect storm of Fulmer getting lazy, coupled with Kiffin's toxic recruiting class and Dooley being Dooley.
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and what i am saying is do not underestimate the damage. i don't think florida is going to go 6-6 for the next four years because of this, but don't be surprised when this compounds on what you have already admitted on Muschamp missing in some of his classes. (defense fine, offense not so much)
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
That OL class was two head coaches removed from the origin of UT's recruiting woes.

UT's issues were the perfect storm of Fulmer getting lazy, coupled with Kiffin's toxic recruiting class and Dooley being Dooley.
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Interested to see what Muschamp's lack of offensive cohesion and a pooch punt class under Mcelwain is going to leave you with. There really is no reason for you to be ranked where you are right now with almost any hire.
 
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Neyland Law Vol said:
But UF is striking out.
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DD4ME said:
Interested to see what Muschamp's lack of offensive cohesion and a pooch punt class under Mcelwain is going to leave you with. There really is no reason for you to be ranked where you are right now with almost any hire.
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Oh we'll be depth shy in 2016 and 2017, no doubt.

But if McElwain can get consistent QB play out of Grier or Harris, this class will be a blip on the radar.

Driskel killed our last two recruiting classes...offensively at least...as much as Muschamp.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
Oh we'll be depth shy in 2016 and 2017, no doubt.

But if McElwain can get consistent QB play out of Grier or Harris, this class will be a blip on the radar.

Driskel killed our last two recruiting classes...offensively at least...as much as Muschamp.
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Cannot agree with this enough, except that I don't blame Driskel.

I blame Muschamp for not being able to see what we all saw three years ago, which was that Driskel was slow, ponderous, inaccurate, and unable to make reads or adapt.

Relying on Driskel, failing to immediately shore up that position, and then doggedly refusing to admit you had screwed up by relying on him more... that's the legacy of CWM.
 
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Florida will be fine but this year has to be a bit of a disappointment for them but we are in no position to cast stones at anyone other than USC, Kentucky, and Vandy.
 
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This is what happens when you make a bleh hire. I don't expect this guy will last much longer than Muschamp did
 
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SDV said:
This is what happens when you make a bleh hire. I don't expect this guy will last much longer than Muschamp did
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McElewein is a great hire I think still. He will be fine he isn't going to be another Muschamp. He was given a very very daunting task is all.

And I pretty much agree with the Gator posters, this is an anomalie that while in the short term will cause depth issues in the longer term won't have a huge impact.

I think what it does do is give us a chance to close the near term talent gap with them and that shouldn't be discounted. After this recruiting class for TN there shouldn't be any talent excuses. Youth you can make an argument on, but talent shouldn't be a major arguing point anymore.

While FLA just has one year of this. We had several, and it started on Fulmer's watch and transcended three different coaches. That is a huge amount of time to drop your talent refill pipeline.

FLA is going to be fine. They are a quality program and they made a good hire and he will get them whipped in shape. If anything this should just give us a chance to close the gap quicker on them is all.
 
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