UGA over Mizzou's affect on UT

[butchna]

Mark Fox has done a great job this year and does a very good job coaching from the bench. he isn't perfect, but no coach is. He can coach our guys up as well. His biggest issue is recruiting, but he has shown he can do pretty much everything else. Stick to calling us Dawg fans or UGA fans.. the other crap is childish.

Dogs are ALL ABOUT other canine orifices:yuck:...it was a nod to science:geek:
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[bowlinggreenvol]

Who knows?

I know the sec schedules are not balanced, but if mizzou is still considered in (as an example), it's a joke.

You can not lose to bama, be swept by Georgia, finish 3 games behind Georgia in the sec standings and get a bid.

I guess I'm too old school, but conference standings matter to me.

I value the overall body of work, sure. But, you don't get in (IMO) because of 1 win that occurred 3 months ago. That doesn't fly with me.

I know if I am a committee member, beating virginia is great. in mizzou's case beating Ucla is great. But, it doesn't nullify being so very mediocre in a very mediocre league.

Great post 99. Your post is where common sense comes into play on things. I don't care about our SOS, all it shows is we're willing to play decent teams. It also shows we can't beat them. Not to mention the bad losses we have. The SEC deserves two bids. No one else has done anything inside or outside of the SEC to merit receiving a bid.

 

[BearBryant]

The UGA-Mizzou game last night had no bearing on UT's NCAA hopes at all.

If by some miracle Tennessee wins their remaining 4 games, and I know it's a BIG IF, Here it comes -- They WILL make the NCAA Tournament.

The way the bubble teams are losing, they might even be able to lose 1 more and still get in.

 

[Lefteye]

IMO no. But I'd love to see the butt sniffers in Georgia get a few more years of that coach with the game presence of a home-economics teach.

This deserved a like just for the butt sniffers comment.

lol: good stuff

 

[HBCButch]

Depends on your perspective.....

Bad for our tournament hopes.

Good for getting rid of our coach.

What say the nation?

All it tells me is Mizzou is beatable and aint all that just like I've said before. I guess it's a two edged sword when it comes to NCAAT hopes. We beat the team that beat Mizzou twice by 20 points.

 

[volfanstuckinga]

All it tells me is Mizzou is beatable and aint all that just like I've said before. I guess it's a two edged sword when it comes to NCAAT hopes. We beat the team that beat Mizzou twice by 20 points.

But lost to that same Mizzou team.....depressing

 

[VolGee4]

Yes BTO I understand the committee is made up of AD's and Commissioners. That's on less thing you need to educate me on. I say have no use for you because you present yourself as the guru of basketball in here yet you seem to lack an understanding of basic principles. My dislike for you has nothing to do with how the tourney field is selected.

Maybe you shouldn't take him or others so seriously. Just because he posts different opinions....

 

[HBCButch]

The UGA-Mizzou game last night had no bearing on UT's NCAA hopes at all.

If by some miracle Tennessee wins their remaining 4 games, and I know it's a BIG IF, Here it comes -- They WILL make the NCAA Tournament.

The way the bubble teams are losing, they might even be able to lose 1 more and still get in.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be so sure of that at all. That second loss to A&M was a killer imo. That's two definite wins they should have. A&M is mediocre at best. Our top 5 minute getters scored 65 points. Their top 6 minute getters scored 63 points. We get goose eggs from Thompson/Moore/Reese and only 2 from Barton who obviously played the 1 longer. 4 more points from the PG wins the game. This is getting very frustrating. UT could have over 20 wins right now. They obviously have talent but needs to be handled correctly.

 

[HBCButch]

But lost to that same Mizzou team.....depressing

very

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Who knows?

I know the sec schedules are not balanced, but if mizzou is still considered in (as an example), it's a joke.

You can not lose to bama, be swept by Georgia, finish 3 games behind Georgia in the sec standings and get a bid.

I guess I'm too old school, but conference standings matter to me.

I value the overall body of work, sure. But, you don't get in (IMO) because of 1 win that occurred 3 months ago. That doesn't fly with me.

I know if I am a committee member, beating virginia is great. in mizzou's case beating Ucla is great. But, it doesn't nullify being so very mediocre in a very mediocre league.

The committee has proven conference standings don't mean anything.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

haven't had a chance to read the thread, but Mizzou losing is a HUGE plus for us.

Yea I'm not sure how that's even really debatable

 

[bleedingTNorange]

Great post 99. Your post is where common sense comes into play on things. I don't care about our SOS, all it shows is we're willing to play decent teams. It also shows we can't beat them. Not to mention the bad losses we have. The SEC deserves two bids. No one else has done anything inside or outside of the SEC to merit receiving a bid.

I agree 100%, the SEC teams that were contending have blowing opportunity after opportunity. However, the committee has to field 68 teams, those teams gotta come from somewhere.


Every bubble teams has blown chances lately, that's why they're a bubble team and not safely in the dance.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

The UGA-Mizzou game last night had no bearing on UT's NCAA hopes at all.

If by some miracle Tennessee wins their remaining 4 games, and I know it's a BIG IF, Here it comes -- They WILL make the NCAA Tournament.

The way the bubble teams are losing, they might even be able to lose 1 more and still get in.

How did it have no bearing? Your last sentence is why it had quite a bit actually.

 

[bowlinggreenvol]

I agree 100%, the SEC teams that were contending have blowing opportunity after opportunity. However, the committee has to field 68 teams, those teams gotta come from somewhere.


Every bubble teams has blown chances lately, that's why they're a bubble team and not safely in the dance.

3-15 vs the top 25 OOC speaks volumes. Now I'm not sure if that's teams ranked at the time of play or at the time the article was written. But regardless, as a conference we've proven we can't consistently compete with tournament caliber teams. That's embarrassing given the SEC's proximity to major talent producing areas. The ROI for coaches in the SEC would make Wall St blush.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

3-15 vs the top 25 OOC speaks volumes. Now I'm not sure if that's teams ranked at the time of play or at the time the article was written. But regardless, as a conference we've proven we can't consistently compete with tournament caliber teams. That's embarrassing given the SEC's proximity to major talent producing areas. The ROI for coaches in the SEC would make Wall St blush.

None of that is wrong, but it still doesn't remove any teams from the required 68 for the NCAAT.

The SEC isn't the only conference with bubble teams blowing it, it's going on elsewhere too.

 

[Shaun1985]

This type of logic doesn't work if both teams are on the bubble. You want bubble teams to lose. I dont' think you worry about quality of wins at the moment. Keep winning and hope the other bubble teams lose is the way I look at it.

Only types of teams losing that aren't on the bubble is teams like Virginia (solidly in and losing drops their stock)

 

[77' Vol]

Here's a novel thought.... how about winning a few games when it really matters instead of hoping others will help you sneak in. This team doesn't play with heart or any sense of urgency to win.

 

[Dougie_D]

I'm a little confused. Everyone was saying that Mizzou and TN were the 3rd and 4th teams in the SEC for the Tournament. Mizzou was our best chance of a last Quality win if they kept on winning. Right now, we are only playing the bottom half. We LOSE to any of these games, we are toast. Every other team can gain ground.

LSU has the chance to knock off Florida.

Arkansas has a chance to knock off KY.

If you tell me those are not quality wins for those teams who are currently TIED, than I want to smoke what you guys are smoking.

 

[OrangeBalls]

Unless a bubble team is playing in a conference worse than the SEC, they would be hard pressed not to have a better resume than a SEC bubble team. UT's only saving grace is its SOS. Otherwise, they've beaten one team worth a damn and a few decent other ones while mired in mediocrity in the horrible SEC. If I'm a bubble team, I'm hoping I'm compared to UT and Mizzou because I know my conference schedule is much more favorable in the committee's eyes.

 

[BearBryant]

How did it have no bearing? Your last sentence is why it had quite a bit actually.

It's simple.

If Tennessee wins their last 4 games they are in. This was true whether Missouri won or lost against Georgia.

And the way all the other bubble teams are losing, Tennessee could possibly lose one more game and still get in.

In my opinion, Missouri's loss to Georgia had no real impact on Tennessee. It does have impact on Missouri.

 

[Dougie_D]

If you take the last 7 games Mizzou has played you can see that they are not as good as you think anyways. They lost all their road games and only beat their opponents at home by an average of 3.5 points.

They could easily lose their home games against Miss St. and Tx Am.

 

[BearBryant]

The UGA-Mizzou game last night had no bearing on UT's NCAA hopes at all.

If by some miracle Tennessee wins their remaining 4 games, and I know it's a BIG IF, Here it comes -- They WILL make the NCAA Tournament.

The way the bubble teams are losing, they might even be able to lose 1 more and still get in.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't be so sure of that at all. That second loss to A&M was a killer imo. That's two definite wins they should have. A&M is mediocre at best. Our top 5 minute getters scored 65 points. Their top 6 minute getters scored 63 points. We get goose eggs from Thompson/Moore/Reese and only 2 from Barton who obviously played the 1 longer. 4 more points from the PG wins the game. This is getting very frustrating. UT could have over 20 wins right now. They obviously have talent but needs to be handled correctly.

I stand by what I posted.

If Tennessee can win the last 4 games. They would be 21-11.

They have bad losses: 2 to Texas A&M
They have mediocre losses: 3 NCState, @Vandy, UTEP
They have "good" losses: 6 @Xavier, @WichitaSt, @FL, @KY, FL, @Missouri

Winning the last 4 means that will have avenged 4 teams after losing to them the first time.

Other than the @FL they were competitive in all losses.

Good wins: Xavier, Virginia, and maybe @LSU, OleMiss, and Wake Forest

And of course winning the last 4 would mean a good win over Missouri.

They would get in -- IF they can win their last 4 games.

One other thing if they win their last 4 they will likely be the no 3 or 4 seed in the SEC Tournament.

 

[Dougie_D]

I stand by what I posted.

If Tennessee can win the last 4 games. They would be 21-11.

They have bad losses: 2 to Texas A&M
They have mediocre losses: 3 NCState, @Vandy, UTEP
They have "good" losses: 6 @Xavier, @WichitaSt, @FL, @KY, FL, @Missouri

Winning the last 4 means that will have avenged 4 teams after losing to them the first time.

Other than the @FL they were competitive in all losses.

Good wins: Xavier, Virginia, and maybe @LSU, OleMiss, and Wake Forest

And of course winning the last 4 would mean a good win over Missouri.

They would get in -- IF they can win their last 4 games.

One other thing if they win their last 4 they will likely be the no 3 or 4 seed in the SEC Tournament.

The question is though, do we PULL for Mizzou to WIN their next 2 games before us? If they lose one more time, I don't think you put them in your "good" loss games.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

It's simple.

If Tennessee wins their last 4 games they are in. This was true whether Missouri won or lost against Georgia.

And the way all the other bubble teams are losing, Tennessee could possibly lose one more game and still get in.

In my opinion, Missouri's loss to Georgia had no real impact on Tennessee. It does have impact on Missouri.

Your second paragraph is why it had a bearing. The more bubble teams lose, the softer the bubble becomes.

In other words, a lot of people have us last in it first out, if all surrounding teams win out as do we, it'll be a close one. If some of those teams drop a couple, all of a sudden Tennessee might have a little bit of wiggle room.

 

[bleedingTNorange]

The question is though, do we PULL for Mizzou to WIN their next 2 games before us? If they lose one more time, I don't think you put them in your "good" loss games.

I'll be rooting against them