UGA Troubles Brewing- Isaiah Crowell arrested and dismissed

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Negateer said:
It's not the 'younger generation'.

It's the inner city thugs trying to be 'gangstas'.
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It isn't just the inner city gangsta wannabes. When I was at UT many years ago, the local White boys thought riding around in a car with a gun made them hot stuff. I'd been through the army and thought they were idiot children. Of course, there is no denying the rate of violent crime among inner city youth these days.
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
ok so he is that dumb

grant you that

so we are not all created equal under the constitution

why did the officer want to search?

IF HE IS SUSPECTED OF A CRIME HE SHOULD BE READ HIS MIRANDA RIGHTS ON THE SPOT>>>>>which btwfw are not part of the constitution>>>>>BUT HAD TO BE IMPLIMENTED CAUSE IT WAS RAPED
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How are we not all equal under the constitution? It is our own responsibility to know that we do not have to consent to a search. Why else would the police say "may I search your vehicle"? If we didn't have the right to say no, they would just tell us to get the heck out of the car.

He should be read his Miranda rights only prior to an arrest or questioning pertaining to a crime. If they simply ask "do you have weed in the car" "can I check?", that's not questioning him pertaining to a crime.
 
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Vol8188 said:
If he allowed them to search his vehicle without a search warrant, then that is his own fault.
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He didn't know the gun was there man.

Seriously are you saying he is that dumb?

and even if he required the warrant and they got from some fooking judge that doesn't respect the constitution he still would have been fooked

for all kinds of unconstitutional reasons
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
He didn't know the gun was there man.

Seriously are you saying he is that dumb?

and even if he required the warrant and they got from some fooking judge that doesn't respect the constitution he still would have been fooked

for all kinds of unconstitutional reasons
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Yes, I'm saying he is that dumb. He knew the gun was there, he just thought if he told them they could look around that they would think he had nothing to hide.
 
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Vol8188 said:
How are we not all equal under the constitution? It is our own responsibility to know that we do not have to consent to a search. Why else would the police say "may I search your vehicle"? If we didn't have the right to say no, they would just tell us to get the heck out of the car.

He should be read his Miranda rights only prior to an arrest or questioning pertaining to a crime. If they simply ask "do you have weed in the car" "can I check?", that's not questioning him pertaining to a crime.
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oh yes you're correct

you know assuming the constitution makes weed illegal

and you know we can agree that smelling weed on someone or someone smoking weed or even drinking alcohol deprives another of life liberty or happiness

my argument is the officer has no cause to even ask
 
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plus its not equal protection or due process if the citizen doesn't understand the constitution

that is the responsibility of those sworn to uphold it
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
ok so he is that dumb

grant you that

so we are not all created equal under the constitution

why did the officer want to search?

IF HE IS SUSPECTED OF A CRIME HE SHOULD BE READ HIS MIRANDA RIGHTS ON THE SPOT>>>>>which btwfw are not part of the constitution>>>>>BUT HAD TO BE IMPLIMENTED CAUSE IT WAS RAPED
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I see you using the word "raped" and "sodomized" to talk about your perception of constitutional infringements.
Couple of thoughts:

1. I don't think those words mean what you apparently think they mean.

2. This is a story about a punk, thug, criminal who thankfully the police caught and threw his sorry a## in jail right where he belongs. Driving around at 3 AM reaking of pot with a gun under your seat is not something I want the constitution to protect and it's certainly not a right.

Not sure what you are trying to defend here
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
oh yes you're correct

you know assuming the constitution makes weed illegal

and you know we can agree that smelling weed on someone or someone smoking weed or even drinking alcohol deprives another of life liberty or happiness

my argument is the officer has no cause to even ask
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I never said the constitution makes weed illegal. That's completely irrelevant. I do believe weed should be legal, but that doesn't matter. Weed is not legal. As long as it is not legal, the police can arrest you for that. That has nothing to do with the constitution.

The constitution doesn't cover assaults, murder, or anything else. It's not designed to tell citizens which actions are legal or illegal on the part of the citizen (such as smoking weed). It's designed to tell the government what they may or may not do (such as forcing you to house troops).
 
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Bloodrunsorange27 said:
I see you using the word "raped" and "sodomized" to talk about your perception of constitutional infringements.
Couple of thoughts:

1. I don't think those words mean what you apparently think they mean.

2. This is a story about a punk, thug, criminal who thankfully the police caught and threw his sorry a## in jail right where he belongs. Driving around at 3 AM reaking of pot with a gun under your seat is not something I want the constitution to protect and it's certainly not a right.

Not sure what you are trying to defend here
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Thankfully (for him and his potential victim) they caught him before he killed someone. Why else would you need a handgun with a serial number?
 
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Bloodrunsorange27 said:
I see you using the word "raped" and "sodomized" to talk about your perception of constitutional infringements.
Couple of thoughts:

1. I don't think those words mean what you apparently think they mean.

2. This is a story about a punk, thug, criminal who thankfully the police caught and threw his sorry a## in jail right where he belongs. Driving around at 3 AM reaking of pot with a gun under your seat is not something I want the constitution to protect and it's certainly not a right.

Not sure what you are trying to defend here
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he got stopped at a road block in a "school zone" >>>>LOL SCHOOL ZONE

school zone>>> what does that make you think of?

pisses me off

hell i might even send him money

here is a young man made a mistake like all the rest but you know saint richt saw school zone and he is gone

and now we are all vilifying him

he had a gun with the serial# scratched off

big fooking deal imo>>> maybe he needed it >>> to protect his life liberty and property

has he committed any other previous crimes?

did he come from a dangerous background?

why is he not entitled to protect himself?>\
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
did i argue that point?

but yes the constitution does give us that right

2nd amendment states nothing about letting the government be able to track the weapon

but he does have the right to own and carry it
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without license to carry a gun ? i dont think so
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
his car>>>he's guilty
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You have a responsibility for whatever is in your car, just like you are responsible for whatever is in your home. If someone brought a weapon into his car, he allowed them to do, and is to stupid to rat them out, then that's his problem.
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
that's constitutional

right

was he carrying it?

it was in his car

what if in his house? you know under the foundation,,,]
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Under the foundation is something that would be beyond a resonable doubt. Under your seat is not.
 
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UTVOLKeith said:
he got stopped at a road block in a "school zone" >>>>LOL SCHOOL ZONE

school zone>>> what does that make you think of?

pisses me off

hell i might even send him money

here is a young man made a mistake like all the rest but you know saint richt saw school zone and he is gone

and now we are all vilifying him

he had a gun with the serial# scratched off

big fooking deal imo>>> maybe he needed it >>> to protect his life liberty and property

has he committed any other previous crimes?

did he come from a dangerous background?

why is he not entitled to protect himself?>\
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School's out for summer?
 
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