UGA/VOLS observation

[hUTch2002]

My two-cents: Tennessee is a better team than Oregon. (I don't think I'm breaking any big news with that take.). Unfortunately for the Vols, when you lose seems to matter (probably too much). Whether it's valid or not, Oregon may get the benefit of the doubt because they lost to UGA game 1, essentially on the road, with a new coach and transfer QB. They've crushed everyone since. If they win out - and I think its likley they do - as a 1 loss conference champ they will pose a serious threat to Tennessee's playoff chances. Everyone also seems convinced TCU is going to lose. I'm not so sure. Which Texas team are they going to see this week...the one that should have beaten Bama or the Longhorn team that lost to Texas Tech and an Okie State team who got destroyed by Kansas and KSU? Then there's the treat of Michigan. If they lose a close one in Columbus, they'll be a threat to the Vols playoff chances.

The reason I think TCU loses is because it’s ridiculously hard to win all your games. How many times have we had 3 undefeated P5 teams? Almost never. Add to that they play with fire almost every week lately and I think they’ll lose whether to Texas, Baylor or the B12 Championship. I think we will have better wins than Oregon overall but if they survive this end of year gauntlet the committee will probably give them the nod. Michigan getting in over UT would be ridiculous if both are 11-1 no matter how their game against OSU goes. Thanks for your thoughts!

 

[Vol737]

Kirby took us to an overtime loss in the NC in his 2nd season after decades of being on the outside, so there are many of us who recognize the impact Heupel is having on the Vol program so quickly. However, it took Kirby 6 seasons to win it all because it is very had to circumvent the ingredient of time in the process of building and developing the deep and wide waters needed to survive a whole season. I think you have the guy who can do it, or at least get you back to 10-12 win seasons if you will give him the time and resources to build it methodically to endure. Many people recognize what is happening there and are concerned.

UGA may have been on the outside, but I don’t think GA was ever really devoid of talent. Richt recruited well, as did Donnan and Goff for the most part, and I know GA fans were frustrated they couldn’t seem to get over the hump. Well, you’re over the hump in a big way now. We just cycled down into the abyss and then just kept going further down. Lost our culture, hired incompetent administrators and coaches that couldn’t build relationships, didn’t understand as outsiders what this program and school meant to the fan base, recruiting fell off a cliff and had multiple losing seasons. We are definitely playing catch up in recruiting, it’s coming along nicely, and you’re correct, that will take another two seasons or so to have depth AND experience to go with it. I posted in another thread a while back that if we get back to 10-2, 11-1 on a regular basis, we need not even be talking about swapping coaches if we go 9-3. This is a tough league and lot of SEC teams would be happy with that kind of relevance. Bama fans are already posting how the game has passed Saban by and the suggestions that follow those kind of comments. Of course, they’re more delusional than most.

 

[Behr]

Because we like you. Don't you think we have family, friends, colleagues, etc. that pull for other schools and all like to heckle each other? I don't hate any school or their fans just because they aren't UGA, though some are more fun to mock. We have to take our medicine, too, man. Didn't you guys just love that SEC loss we had last year and let us know it long afterwards? How about the constant reminders that "Williams and Metchie were hurt" long after the NC game?

Why is this all so serious? We are all grown people with big responsibilities and obstacles in our daily lives and sports are supposed to be temporal diversions from that fact, not extra burdens to bear at the risk of losing honor.

You're condescension is noted. It probably wouldn't have been noticed if you'd been here any other time in the last 40 years. Smell what I'm selling?

Carry on.

 

[VolInNW]

It appears the truth hurts you. I haven't put a spin on this game like many have here. I saw the truth on the field. Our OL were WORKED the entire game. Our Heisman QB looked average because of it. Our D never stopped UGA in game truthfully. They used 9+ minutes to drive on us in the 3rd quarter. BowlCut put them in coast mode when the skies opened up. We were outplayed, out-coached and run out of town. I honestly believe they could've put "fiddy" on us like many predicted we would do to them......in the rain or not. If we get a rematch, anything can happen but if you know anything about football you know they are playing with the "first pick" kids on the sandlot and we're playing with the "middle to last" kid picks. I'm not sorry your feelings got hurt. Don't let your orange glasses cloud the truth friend.

Time to consentrate on Mizzou.

Feelings hurt? Bwahahahaha! The ad hominem is noted, but it still always puzzles me why a fan will attack his own team. And you seem hostile to fans who don’t choose to heap praise on the opposition and belittle Tennessee.

It’s just odd.

But hurt feelings?

Bwahahahahahaha. Hilarious.

 

[VolInNW]

I've been to Knoxville for a game and had a great time. The folks couldn't have been nicer. And yeah, Rocky Top is a catchy tune. But I'm not at all interested in UGA having national appeal. I want national championships. Why would I care what someone in Des Moines, Iowa or Phoenix, AZ think of the Georgia football program?

I’m glad you agree. Georgia is a vanilla team with little to distinguish it. It isn’t known nationally. And while I appreciate your generally agreeable attitude, overall it has the whiniest, insecure, most passive aggressive fans in sports. It’s overall annoying.

 

[SLODAWG]

I’m glad you agree. Georgia is a vanilla team with little to distinguish it. It isn’t known nationally. And while I appreciate your generally agreeable attitude, overall it has the whiniest, insecure, most passive aggressive fans in sports. It’s overall annoying.

Well....there is the 2021 national championship, probably another one for 2022, and likely competing for championships for the foreseeable future. You and i can disagree whether any of that distinguishes UGA. But hey, singing along to "Rocky Top" is probably pretty fun too.

 

[Clayton]

They will pump a rematch if other teams teams start to lose but right now most are saying we shouldn’t be a playoff team over Oregon, TCU and maybe not the loser of Ohio State/Michigan. The Oregon one is interesting. I think they’ll lose again so it won’t matter and no doubt it TCU wins out (they won’t) they’ll deserve a spot but what say you about a 12-1 Oregon vs an 11-1 UT? I’m curious from a UGA perspective what you think.

On a side note, I think what’s buying a lot of UT fans is that Oregon’s 49-3 loss to you all is being dismissed as first game jitters while our 14 point loss in your stadium is being talked about as if it were a worse beating than your win over Oregon. Every single media person I’ve heard has said Oregon over UT if Oregon wins out.

The playoff committee thinks differently. They view the Oregon and Tennessee games against Georgia as being the same. In fact if you actually look at the statistics in the UGA Oregon game in the UGA Tennessee game Oregon actually played Georgia better. The fact that Georgia shut it down the second half to run out the clock skews the view that the win was closer than it really was against Tennessee.
Here's what the playoff committee chairman had to say
How much does the committee look at margin of defeat to common opponents, with the obvious one in this case being your No. 5 and No. 6 teams, Tennessee and Oregon, both having lost to the same team?
“As a committee I think we’re looking at the game itself, and is it more one-sided. From our standpoint, it’s not this one was X number of points and this one was X number of points from that standpoint. You look at the overall game, the flow of the game, and making sure that we’re doing the evaluation on the overall big picture as opposed to a late score or an early score, that type of thing.”
Would the committee say that both those games were one-sided? (Tennessee at Georgia, Oregon versus Georgia)
“Yes, I would say so.”
So Tennessee needs to be pulling for an Oregon lost because if they win the Pac 12 championship they could easily leapfrog Tennessee because Tennessee did not even win their division and Oregon has really been playing great football since that first loss.

 

[1989Vol]

Feelings hurt? Bwahahahaha! The ad hominem is noted, but it still always puzzles me why a fan will attack his own team. And you seem hostile to fans who don’t choose to heap praise on the opposition and belittle Tennessee.

It’s just odd.

But hurt feelings?

Bwahahahahahaha. Hilarious.

Not hostile, just disappointed but I can see the reasons WHY I am. I just thought we were ready and we weren't. Its been awhile since we were last in this position friend. Heupel has done a pretty good job getting us to this point in his 2nd yr after losing 20+ to the portal don't u agree? There is still a chance we keep this thing going! GBO

 

[volpreacher]

Dawgs only attempted 4 passes the entire 2nd half. Kirby went clock management and ball control. That game was pretty much over at halftime.

Be careful what you wish for, you might get a second chance.

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

Another delusional puppy fan. If they are so good they could have run it down the Tennessee throats. But they didn't. And Tennessee would win a neutral field rematch.

 

[volpreacher]

The playoff committee thinks differently. They view the Oregon and Tennessee games against Georgia as being the same. In fact if you actually look at the statistics in the UGA Oregon game in the UGA Tennessee game Oregon actually played Georgia better. The fact that Georgia shut it down the second half to run out the clock skews the view that the win was closer than it really was against Tennessee.
Here's what the playoff committee chairman had to say
How much does the committee look at margin of defeat to common opponents, with the obvious one in this case being your No. 5 and No. 6 teams, Tennessee and Oregon, both having lost to the same team?
“As a committee I think we’re looking at the game itself, and is it more one-sided. From our standpoint, it’s not this one was X number of points and this one was X number of points from that standpoint. You look at the overall game, the flow of the game, and making sure that we’re doing the evaluation on the overall big picture as opposed to a late score or an early score, that type of thing.”
Would the committee say that both those games were one-sided? (Tennessee at Georgia, Oregon versus Georgia)
“Yes, I would say so.”
So Tennessee needs to be pulling for an Oregon lost because if they win the Pac 12 championship they could easily leapfrog Tennessee because Tennessee did not even win their division and Oregon has really been playing great football since that first loss.

Quit being stupid. Georgia didn't shut it down. You Georgia fans act like it was 45-0. It was very much in reach even in the late 4th quarter and not sure had it not rained it wouldn't have been a down to the wire outcome.

 

[hUTch2002]

The playoff committee thinks differently. They view the Oregon and Tennessee games against Georgia as being the same. In fact if you actually look at the statistics in the UGA Oregon game in the UGA Tennessee game Oregon actually played Georgia better. The fact that Georgia shut it down the second half to run out the clock skews the view that the win was closer than it really was against Tennessee.
Here's what the playoff committee chairman had to say
How much does the committee look at margin of defeat to common opponents, with the obvious one in this case being your No. 5 and No. 6 teams, Tennessee and Oregon, both having lost to the same team?
“As a committee I think we’re looking at the game itself, and is it more one-sided. From our standpoint, it’s not this one was X number of points and this one was X number of points from that standpoint. You look at the overall game, the flow of the game, and making sure that we’re doing the evaluation on the overall big picture as opposed to a late score or an early score, that type of thing.”
Would the committee say that both those games were one-sided? (Tennessee at Georgia, Oregon versus Georgia)
“Yes, I would say so.”
So Tennessee needs to be pulling for an Oregon lost because if they win the Pac 12 championship they could easily leapfrog Tennessee because Tennessee did not even win their division and Oregon has really been playing great football since that first loss.

Yeah I agree with that. I figured it would come down to our wins vs theirs and if they run the table they’ll have a pretty nice resume.

 

[volpreacher]

The playoff committee thinks differently. They view the Oregon and Tennessee games against Georgia as being the same. In fact if you actually look at the statistics in the UGA Oregon game in the UGA Tennessee game Oregon actually played Georgia better. The fact that Georgia shut it down the second half to run out the clock skews the view that the win was closer than it really was against Tennessee.
Here's what the playoff committee chairman had to say
How much does the committee look at margin of defeat to common opponents, with the obvious one in this case being your No. 5 and No. 6 teams, Tennessee and Oregon, both having lost to the same team?
“As a committee I think we’re looking at the game itself, and is it more one-sided. From our standpoint, it’s not this one was X number of points and this one was X number of points from that standpoint. You look at the overall game, the flow of the game, and making sure that we’re doing the evaluation on the overall big picture as opposed to a late score or an early score, that type of thing.”
Would the committee say that both those games were one-sided? (Tennessee at Georgia, Oregon versus Georgia)
“Yes, I would say so.”
So Tennessee needs to be pulling for an Oregon lost because if they win the Pac 12 championship they could easily leapfrog Tennessee because Tennessee did not even win their division and Oregon has really been playing great football since that first loss.

It's going to be
1. Georgia
2. Ohio State
3. Tennessee
4. Oregon
Michigan will lose to OSU, TCU won't go undefeated. Oregon could lose but doubt it and besides, they don't have the resume that Tennessee does. Tennessee takes care of business these last 3 and they are in. Only way they would not would be if somehow LSU were to upset Georgia in SEC championship game and that is very unlikely also possible.

 

[BAMA-DAWG]

Well....there is the 2021 2022 national championship, probably another one for 2022 2023, and likely competing for championships for the foreseeable future. You and i can disagree whether any of that distinguishes UGA. But hey, singing along to "Rocky Top" is probably pretty fun too.

fixed your post

 

[DawgBite]

Another delusional puppy fan. If they are so good they could have run it down the Tennessee throats. But they didn't. And Tennessee would win a neutral field rematch.

I respectfully disagree, friend.

Vols have a very good run defense, no doubt. Of course, their secondary is mediocre at best... but you already know that.

Personally, I think Tennessee would probably beat anyone but Georgia.

Georgia has the scheme and athletes to limit the Vols offense. (already proven)

Georgia can expose the Vols secondary fairly easily, those two things combined make it very difficult for the Vols to matchup with the Dawgs.

If the Vols win out, I still think it's likely they are in the playoffs. So, you might just get that 2nd chance to fight the Big Dawg! Good luck!

 

[Clayton]

Quit being stupid. Georgia didn't shut it down. You Georgia fans act like it was 45-0. It was very much in reach even in the late 4th quarter and not sure had it not rained it wouldn't have been a down to the wire outcome.

It wasn’t raining in the first half and you were down three scores and came nowhere near making a touchdown. How do you consider that even close? It was never in reach and it was never close. Georgia through all of four passes the second half. Georgia completely shut down the Tennessee offense. You didn’t have one passing touchdown. Georgia went conservative. I just ran out the clock the second half. Kirby even stated he took it out of Stetson’s hands. it was about as lopsided as it gets. But there’s always next time and I don’t think any Georgia fan would mind doing that.

 

[hUTch2002]

Kirby took us to an overtime loss in the NC in his 2nd season after decades of being on the outside, so there are many of us who recognize the impact Heupel is having on the Vol program so quickly. However, it took Kirby 6 seasons to win it all because it is very had to circumvent the ingredient of time in the process of building and developing the deep and wide waters needed to survive a whole season. I think you have the guy who can do it, or at least get you back to 10-12 win seasons if you will give him the time and resources to build it methodically to endure. Many people recognize what is happening there and are concerned.

Until last year I was wondering if Kirby was going to end up any better than Richt. His record wasn’t but last year he finally got all that talent he had been stockpiling (which he did do better than Richt at that from the get go) rowing in the same direction. I tell you, even though he’s a Dawg, I kind of like SB. Any kid his size that is a starting QB at a top 5 program is impressive. Just think how much better he has to be than all the guys that are like JT Daniels, who was a 6’2” stud coming out of HS. He might not have much of a NFL career but he’s sneaky good so he might be a career backup guy.

 

[hUTch2002]

Dawgs only attempted 4 passes the entire 2nd half. Kirby went clock management and ball control. That game was pretty much over at halftime.

Be careful what you wish for, you might get a second chance.

Nowhere to run, nowhere to hide.

You all won easily and your D shut us down thoroughly but no 18-point game is over at halftime.

 

[DawgBite]

Regardless of what happens from here on out, you'll always have that first week in November.

 

[Johnnyreb#VFL]

The main thing that stood out to me in this game was georgias tackling. I don’t think they missed a single tackle and that’s what Tennessees offense strives on, playmakers in space making people miss for huge gains. That was instilled in me at a very young age as I remember a myriad of coaches yelling WRAP UP!!!! Simple, fundamental skill but won Georgia the game.