Ukraine Protests

[Velo Vol]

Ostensibly over the government's refusal to move toward the European Union, though undoubtedly there's more to the story.

Angry about Kiev's policy U-turn away from integration with Europe, hundreds of demonstrators lined trash bins, metal containers and flower pots to stop employees from going to work. They focused their attention on government offices after tens of thousands of people took part in an opposition-led rally Sunday, marred by violence.
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What started out late last month as demonstrations against Yanukovich's decision not to sign a landmark trade deal with the European Union has ballooned into something much larger. Demonstrators say they will stop at nothing short of new parliamentary and presidential elections.

"This is not a protest. This is a revolution," protest leader Yuri Lutsenko, told a crowd of thousands who packed Independence Square on Sunday.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rWNdeRtBmWA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dI2HYBfgXY[/youtube]

 

[Velo Vol]

Uh, is this a mistranslation?

Russian President Vladimir Putin said Monday that events unfolding in Ukraine should not be described as a revolution, but were rather more reminiscent of a “pogrom.”

If not, what's he trying to say here?

 

[MG1968]

What are the advantages of integration? Ukraine is only just now realizing the benefits of being an independent state, why would it seek to join another organization and be answerable to a Parliament in another country?

 

[Toujours Pret]

What are the advantages of integration? Ukraine is only just now realizing the benefits of being an independent state, why would it seek to join another organization and be answerable to a Parliament in another country?

To avoid being engulfed by Russia again.

 

[MG1968]

To avoid being engulfed by Russia again.

The EU isn't a military organization.

 

[Toujours Pret]

The EU isn't a military organization.

Politically. Russia has been buying elections in the Ukraine, amongst other things. The hope is that closer ties to the West will alleviate some of the bull**** .

 

[Velo Vol]

What are the advantages of integration?

Trade.

Politically. Russia has been buying elections in the Ukraine, amongst other things. The hope is that closer ties to the West will alleviate some of the bull**** .

The hope among the protestors. But half the country is just fine with Russia, it seems. Part of the country identifies with Russia, and part of it wants to move closer to Europe.

 

[volinbham]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw[/youtube]

 

[Burhead]

To avoid being engulfed by Russia again.

So you go from being a puppet of Russia to becoming part a bloated and corrupt European Union? No thanks, I'd take one look at the Eurozone and say thanks but no thanks real quick.

 

[Velo Vol]

Another former Soviet state straddling the divide between Europe and Russia: Georgia

"We, Georgians, know that we are Europeans. But because of the reasons of history and geopolitics, we had no chance to take part in the European integration process from the stage of inception [of the EU]," Giorgi Margvelashvili, Georgia's new president, told EU leaders at the Vilnius summit.

Interesting to the extent that they view themselves as Europeans, given that the nation is east of Ukraine and not far from Iran.

 

[Toujours Pret]

Another former Soviet state straddling the divide between Europe and Russia: Georgia



Interesting to the extent that they view themselves as Europeans, given that the nation is east of Ukraine and not far from Iran.

I think its another case of wanting to avoid being a de facto satellite of Moscow.

 

[Velo Vol]

And down goes Lenin in Kiev.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvQPCoX4E3I[/youtube]

 

[Grand Vol]

Kinda surprised to still have a Lenin statue still up.

 

[DC_Vol]

And down goes Lenin in Kiev.

It's being relocated to the White House.

 

[Grand Vol]

It's being relocated to the White House.

I was trying to think of something witty along those lines but couldn't come up with anything.

Outstanding response.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

It's being relocated to the White House.

:hi: so Obama can look w/a tear in his eye.

 

[Velo Vol]

Russia tries to bribe the Ukrainian government with gas.

 

[FLVOL_79]

If these protests aren't involving those young Ukrainian ladies who protest topless over fur coats or something, it isn't worth following.

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

She does it again...

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW1WDbDX7wE[/youtube]

 

[Velo Vol]

I support the Ukrainian people. Where can I join her support group?

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hvds2AIiWLA[/youtube]

 

[Velo Vol]

Live feed from Kiev, supposedly

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_LFrMcoEm4&feature=share[/youtube]

 

[AirVol]

It's being relocated to the White House.

They will have to weld bigger ears on Lenin's head for people to recognize who it really is.

 

[n_huffhines]

Things are getting out of hand. 18 dead today.

 

[n_huffhines]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ie0rj0l85Q4#t=39[/youtube]

 

[volmaverick]

Ostensibly over the government's refusal to move toward the European Union, though undoubtedly there's more to the story.



[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/rWNdeRtBmWA[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/v/9dI2HYBfgXY[/youtube]

Why do u care? How far away is this?