UK's bball team's GPA just released

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I just hate that they call them student-athletes when the student part practically doesn't matter anymore.

They shouldn't force these players to play at the collegiate level when they do not want to be there at all.
 
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tvolsfan said:
I'd take bad GPA's for an SEC tournament title, considering they're almost all NBA players anyways.
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BTW if a player leaves school with less than a 2.6 it negatively effects your school. If it happens too many times the NCAA will take scholarships away and have also seen teams put on post season probation for the same reason so its not a good idea to just shrug it off and say its ok they're going to the NBA. thats fine, they might be but the school and coach are not.
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zach0105 said:
I just hate that they call them student-athletes when the student part practically doesn't matter anymore.

They shouldn't force these players to play at the collegiate level when they do not want to be there at all.
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honestly, the NBA is simply trying to maintain some sort of fan base. Collegiate ball is about teams and NBA ball is about the stars. I think there has been a steady dropoff of collegiate ball watchers because the players, especially the stars, weren't building a fanbase to bring with them. The NBA is smart in trying to let the names come with them. My guess is that KY fans will forever root for John Wall now, but wouldn't have cared less about him had he not gone to college for a year.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
honestly, the NBA is simply trying to maintain some sort of fan base. Collegiate ball is about teams and NBA ball is about the stars. I think there has been a steady dropoff of collegiate ball watchers because the players, especially the stars, weren't building a fanbase to bring with them. The NBA is smart in trying to let the names come with them. My guess is that KY fans will forever root for John Wall now, but wouldn't have cared less about him had he not gone to college for a year.
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this.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
honestly, the NBA is simply trying to maintain some sort of fan base. Collegiate ball is about teams and NBA ball is about the stars. I think there has been a steady dropoff of collegiate ball watchers because the players, especially the stars, weren't building a fanbase to bring with them. The NBA is smart in trying to let the names come with them. My guess is that KY fans will forever root for John Wall now, but wouldn't have cared less about him had he not gone to college for a year.
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dayum, BPV got it right.
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Just got the twitter and though it weighed upon this discussion.

The spring semester GPA's for the basketball team were released today. UK's team GPA rose from 2.05 to 2.18. Also, there was confirmation that Orton did indeed quit his second semester and didn't complete any classes as it was rumored.

So, the rise of the GPA with a student completely failing the second semester is quite astonishing in my opinion, although the rise was small. It also means that all of the other students did finish their classes with mostly higher grades than they had in the fall semester, including all of those going to the NBA. Wall finished with a 3.5.


Kentucky Sports Radio Blog Archive Cats Team GPAs Improve
 
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I'm proud of John. Hopefully he will be able to consistently bowl in the 200s now and serve a tennis ball with few faults now - heck - he may even be able to explain supply and demand to a few elementary kids.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
I'm proud of John. Hopefully he will be able to consistently bowl in the 200s now and serve a tennis ball with few faults now - heck - he may even be able to explain supply and demand to a few elementary kids.
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Spot on. Because UT is obviously producing brain surgeons out of the ranks of their basketball team. Thats why chose to release their GPA in the fall with the other SEC schools. Oh wait.....
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Spot on. Because UT is obviously producing brain surgeons out of the ranks of their basketball team. Thats why chose to release their GPA in the fall with the other SEC schools. Oh wait.....
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Never said they took any harder classes. But bragging about a 3.5 gpa for an athlete that never intended to stay more than one year is as bad as bragging about having a 4.0 GPA in while being homeschooled and being the valedictorian out of a class of 4.

But atleast guys like Wayne Chism, JP Prince, Bobby Maze, etc (4 year guys) took real classes in order to graduate (granted they were likely far from the hardest majors). Guys like Cousins, Wall, Bledsoe, and Orton could take all physical education electives and participate since they didn't care and need to care what they took since they never intended on going more than a year.
 
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milohimself said:
3.5 implies he at least showed up, which is a lot more than many other D-I basketball players can say.
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Which is the whole point to begin with. Their subject of study isn't whats at debate. Most all athletes barring a few exceptions major in Sports Education, sociology, or communication.

I only bring it back up because It was assumed by so many that all of the NBA kids would say to hell with the second semester. Turns out they all improved except Orton.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Never said they took any harder classes. But bragging about a 3.5 gpa for an athlete that never intended to stay more than one year is as bad as bragging about having a 4.0 GPA in while being homeschooled and being the valedictorian out of a class of 4.
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* Valid Victorian
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
Never said they took any harder classes. But bragging about a 3.5 gpa for an athlete that never intended to stay more than one year is as bad as bragging about having a 4.0 GPA in while being homeschooled and being the valedictorian out of a class of 4.

But atleast guys like Wayne Chism, JP Prince, Bobby Maze, etc (4 year guys) took real classes in order to graduate (granted they were likely far from the hardest majors). Guys like Cousins, Wall, Bledsoe, and Orton could take all physical education electives and participate since they didn't care and need to care what they took since they never intended on going more than a year.
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1. Maze hasn't graduated.
2. If they didn't take classes that would be considered progress toward a specified degree, they get no APR credit.
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hatvol96 said:
1. Maze hasn't graduated.
2. If they didn't take classes that would be considered progress toward a specified degree, they get no APR credit.
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If their programs are anything like UT's, then taking electives would be counted as progressing towards a degree when you're a freshman since you need so many hours. Even if it wasn't - gen ed. classes (which is what they would be taking) are a joke at pretty much most public universities as long as you go to class.

I wouldn't know - or really care if Maze has graduated - but I'm sure he's at least past English 101 and psychology 121 at this point in his education.
 
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
Turns out they all improved except Orton.
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Which proves some people don't learn from the mistakes of others. Davon Jefferson is stuck playing in Israel because he blew off classes his second semester at SC and the coaching staff didn't cover for him when NBA execs asked about it. OJ Mayo, on the other hand, rehabbed a tarnished rep by going to class religiously and hitting all his APR targets.
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Bassmanbruno said:
I wouldn't know - or really care if Maze has graduated - but I'm sure he's at least past English 101 and psychology 121 at this point in his education.
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So, you're saying he deserves a trophy for having completed two freshmen classes after having been in school for 4 years?
 
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hatvol96 said:
Which proves some people don't learn from the mistakes of others. Davon Jefferson is stuck playing in Israel because he blew off classes his second semester at SC and the coaching staff didn't cover for him when NBA execs asked about it. OJ Mayo, on the other hand, rehabbed a tarnished rep by going to class religiously and hitting all his APR targets.
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True. Orton seems to be safe enough for a 1st round pick, but it still can speak volumes about you.

The only saving grace (for fans), is that its not going to cost us a scholarship. However, sources say that there is zero room for failure over the next few years.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
I wouldn't know - or really care if Maze has graduated - but I'm sure he's at least past English 101 and psychology 121 at this point in his education.
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Your proof that Wall didn't complete one or both of those courses during his stay in Lexington consists of...?
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hatvol96 said:
Your proof that Wall didn't complete one or both of those courses during his stay in Lexington consists of...?
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No - that's not what I meant - I'm saying that's probably the hardest class Wall would've had to take while there if he chose to... which neither requires any effort to make an A in to be honest, just show up. I'm not hating on him - atleast he went to class unlike some of the players I'm sure - but a HF bringing up his 3.5 gpa isn't much to brag about considering the circumstances.
 
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Bassmanbruno said:
No - that's not what I meant - I'm saying that's probably the hardest class Wall would've had to take while there if he chose to... which neither requires any effort to make an A in to be honest, just show up. I'm not hating on him - atleast he went to class unlike some of the players I'm sure - but a HF bringing up his 3.5 gpa isn't much to brag about considering the circumstances.
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I don't recall bragging. If everyone would view it objectively instead of trying to hate on everything UK, things would go a bit easier.

If UT had actually released their GPA, this situation would be just the same, except the people piling on in this thread would be defending in the other.
 
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