ULTRA MAGA!

#126
#126
clarksvol00 said:
Haven't seen it and none of our residents Biden fans are posting it as far as I know.
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A lot of the resident Biden fans won't admit they like the guy. With his 34% approval rate I'm sure there is more than just Luther, BB85, Zeppelin and Septic.
 
#128
#128
DonjoVol said:
You are wrong. The working is largely shifting to the right. The democrat party has now become the party of the rich.
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Not exactly true, Trump only got 42% of the vote for those making under 100K in 2020 and 43% of the vote of those making 50-99K. He received approx. 55% of vote for those making over 100K.

Trump made huge inroads with the Midwestern blue collar worker that used to be a solid Democratic vote. That's how Ohio went from toss-up to leans red and why WI, MI, and PA have shifted from blue to tossup. The question is whether a non Trump candidate can keep up those gains in those 4 states.
 
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#133
BigOrangeMojo said:
I think you are only capturing the most ardent, vocal subgroup of MAGA. Yes, in that group, there is probably pretty high correlation with racism.

I think the MAGA movement is more than that. I think it includes those who are opposed to the social policies of the Dems and media but did not feel like they had a voice before Trump. Trump said the things they were thinking but no other politician would say. I would say racism correlation in this group is much, much smaller.
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Racism is much higher in the democrat party. You will see it on full display from white leftists when more and more minorities vote Republican in the future.
 
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#135
BigOrangeMojo said:
The high school educated, blue collar worker has been alienated by the Dems going further and further left and the Repubs only caring about the rich. Trump catered to those voters in a way the two major parties haven't done in decades.

Not a Trump supporter at all but it was impressive in how he threaded the needle to build a winning coalition in 2016.
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I would call it more surprising than impressive. Maybe even disheartening.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean when you say high school educated, blue collar workers were alienated by the Dems going further and further left.
 
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#137
AM64 said:
Depends on what you consider a better candidate than Trump or Biden in 2014, and the bet is that most of us here won't agree with your definition of "better".
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First - younger.
Second - not be insane or senile.
Third - a moderate republican vs a moderate democrat who both believe in the necessity of compromise.
Fourth - Two candidates that actually respect each other and treat each with at least a shred of decency.
 
#138
#138
luthervol said:
I would call it more surprising than impressive. Maybe even disheartening.
I'm not exactly sure what you mean when you say high school educated, blue collar workers were alienated by the Dems going further and further left.
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Referring to the Midwestern union worker shift that has caused Ohio to turn solidly red and turning MI, WI, and PA from solidly blue to more of a tossup
 
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#144
luthervol said:
Avoided the adolescent boy's practice of attempting to attach derogatory nicknames to the people who he feels are mean to him or that he fears others may view as superior.
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That’s all you have? That’s pathetic but, then again, we all knew it was nothing more. And your point isn’t great anyway as Biden even called Trump names during the national debate.
 
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#148
luthervol said:
I'll take your word for it, but I don't really understand your perspective.
But from my perspective Trump being accepted as the champion of the forgotten man and middle America is just incompressible, he has lived a life showing nothing but contempt and disregard to anyone not rich, famous, or part of the coastal elite.
I've accepted the fact that I will never understand the perspective that allows one to view Trump in a positive way.
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Not like Biden or the Clintons
 
#149
#149
SpaceCoastVol said:
Make America Great Again. I can see why you find that offensive.
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Cute phrase with plenty of hidden meaning.
The confederate flag is sort of a cute flag, but that ugly messaging that is attached to it sort of overrides the cuteness.
Same with MAGA.
 
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