ULTRA MAGA!

[luthervol]

So BLM and Antifa burning down cities is just a big renovation project?

yawn.

 

[luthervol]

Observation of what? Name one thing Biden has made better.

America's standing in the world.

 

[volbeast33]

Exactly, now multiply that total nonsense by 100 and you begin to approach Trump levels.

There are way more important issues than stupidity like this…. Focus on the things that matter.

 

[VolStrom]

America's standing in the world.

Yay, Biden is for everyone but ourselves. How do you think Europe would like us if we hadn't offered up $40B in aid for Ukraine while the EU is spending $500 million. Do you see a problem here, Luther?

 

[luthervol]

There are way more important issues than stupidity like this…. Focus on the things that matter.

lol......Thanks for the insight.
It's people's general lack of "depth" perception that has me concerned. I guess that's related to focus.

 

[Orangeburst]

Absolutely nothing.
Biden is compromised and his people should be ashamed for putting us through all this

FYP

 

[luthervol]

Yay, Biden is for everyone but ourselves. How do you think Europe would like us if we hadn't offered up $40B in aid for Ukraine while the EU is spending $500 million. Do you see a problem here, Luther?

Europe has contributed far more than $500 million. Plus, as a % of GDP, the US is 6th in contributions to Ukraine.
Which country has given the most money to Ukraine?

 

[VolStrom]

Europe has contributed far more than $500 million. Plus, as a % of GDP, the US is 6th in contributions to Ukraine.
Which country has given the most money to Ukraine?

"Geographic proximity to Ukraine seems to play a major role in the engagement of Eastern European countries," Trebesch said.

The Tracker does have limitations, its main author acknowledged, flagging for instance that it cannot "provide the full picture because military aid to Ukraine, in particular, is not always transparent."

Add in another $32B to your chart, and where does that leave us?

 

[Carl Pickens]

What do you call those democrats that have about 137 bumper stickers on their car?

Idiots

 

[VolStrom]

What do you call those democrats that have about 137 bumper stickers on their car?

 

[Orangeburst]

Idiots

If they have 137 political sticks, gotta be at least a Coexist on there as well.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

I'll take your word for it, but I don't really understand your perspective.
But from my perspective Trump being accepted as the champion of the forgotten man and middle America is just incompressible, he has lived a life showing nothing but contempt and disregard to anyone not rich, famous, or part

The high school educated, blue collar worker has been alienated by the Dems going further and further left and the Repubs only caring about the rich. Trump catered to those voters in a way the two major parties haven't done in decades.

Not a Trump supporter at all but it was impressive in how he threaded the needle to build a winning coalition in 2016.

 

[Orangeburst]

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Bonus for the Peace plate

 

[AshG]

If they have 137 political sticks, gotta be at least a Coexist on there as well.

The Coexist has to be the funniest of them all. Because they rarely do.

 

[StarRaider]

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

America's standing in the world.

Biden has made the U.S.A. the laughing stock to the world you dolt ... keep trying though

 

[AM64]

I think everyone wants to make America greater.

Some do, but many don't. Some of us actually believe that what this country has done in a relatively short span was exceptional; others believe it should be torn down for the same reason. Rooting out and tearing down exceptionalism to make us "equal" is really little different from ideas thrown around by a guy named Marx - and that isn't making America greater by a long shot. We've had over fifty years of social engineering and liberal thoughts on how to educate now; that's turned our educational system and work ethic among other things into a wasteland.

 

[W.TN.Orange Blood]

 

[AM64]

We can all hope that 2024 gives us something substantially better than either Trump or Biden.
Maybe 90% of us can agree with that.

Depends on what you consider a better candidate than Trump or Biden in 2014, and the bet is that most of us here won't agree with your definition of "better".

 

[0nelilreb]

The high school educated, blue collar worker has been alienated by the Dems going further and further left and the Repubs only caring about the rich. Trump catered to those voters in a way the two major parties haven't done in decades.

Not a Trump supporter at all but it was impressive in how he threaded the needle to build a winning coalition in 2016.

Here’s an example of things not to do as a liberal candidate that is trying to push the old platform lie of the left is for “the working class “ you don’t go to West “by god “ Virginia and tell a whole room full of coal miners wearing their hard hats that you will shut their industry down when you become President . Luther is having a problem figuring out why a NY real estate candidate ( Trump )can get those votes after watching (Hills ) another east coast elitist roll in and tell them that .

 

[AshG]

Biden has made the U.S.A. the laughing stock to the world you dolt ... keep trying though

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Not sure about that. I have friends in several countries, and the thing that has them scratching their heads is how busy we are hating each other.

 

[AM64]

It's quite funny. The free market economy is what helped put us in this mess, now people are begging for governmental interference to fix it. Late stage capitalism is a trip.

Actually it's the exact opposite. Interference caused this and the govt believes they need to continue to try and fix it. Govt needs to get out of the way

Capitalism works, the people running the corporations screw it up. It's not unlike sports; the game may be good, but cheaters ruin it. There need to be some rules - like antitrust, for example, to ensure the concept of competition keeps capitalism working correctly. We make rules, and then congress is bought and weakens them, so government has a very mixed record (seemingly well skewed to the negative side). Two great examples of negative government interference - failure to apply antitrust laws to labor, and relaxing banking requirements that caused a lot of the 2008 collapse - not to mention that government interference in the mortgage market set the whole mess in play in the first place.

 

[BigOrangeMojo]

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While raising corporate taxes don't have the same inflationary impact as raising property and payroll taxes, I'd love to hear the logic for how this lowers inflation.

 

[AM64]

I can concede that trump was good for business. The removal of regulations and streamlining of the permit process were good things.
Trump was as bad as anyone before him on spending and the deficit.

Spending is the genie that can't be put back in the bottle. It's just very simple that if politicians don't bring home the bacon, they don't get reelected. We can't get to the treasury ourselves; so when the first surrogate offered, that set the whole thing in motion. I don't see a solution because congress isn't going to control the members or set rules that keep themselves from being on the take.

 

[DonjoVol]

The high school educated, blue collar worker has been alienated by the Dems going further and further left and the Repubs only caring about the rich. Trump catered to those voters in a way the two major parties haven't done in decades.

Not a Trump supporter at all but it was impressive in how he threaded the needle to build a winning coalition in 2016.

You are wrong. The working is largely shifting to the right. The democrat party has now become the party of the rich.