Unborn babies are equal to slaves in many ways

[Gramps]

Where do you guys get these thread titles? Is there a thread titling app I don't know about?

Have you ever tried threadtitleapp.com or themindofNeocon.com?

jk

 

[milohimself]

'Babies' are not aborted, 'fetuses' are.

Apparently you never saw Ms. Cartman go to the doctor asking for a 32nd trimester abortion...

 

[MUR73]

his past history on the subject suggests otherwise

Since his ideology differs from yours he is not allowed to ask a question? That is one of the things that kinda suxs here. everyone lines up on their sides and just tries to discredit one another instead of the issue posed the issuer is attacked. I know im guilty my self on a few occasions.

 

[MUR73]

Honestly I have no idea, I was just throwing the question out there for everyone to chew on.

Me either, just wondering. that is always brought up but i never see it breakdown statistically of how much relevance it has to the abortion issue.

 

[utvolpj]

Since his ideology differs from yours he is not allowed to ask a question? That is one of the things that kinda suxs here. everyone lines up on their sides and just tries to discredit one another instead of the issue posed the issuer is attacked. I know im guilty my self on a few occasions.

sure but don't pretend it's just an innocent question trying to get some feedback. All he's looking for is to make another uneducated "baby killer" remark at someone. That's actually the part that sucks

 

[KiffinKiller]

I agree. This doesn't hit home as much for me because I've never been involved in a pregnancy, but I'm sure it's very personal to those who have gone through it.

 

[NEO]

that's because he doesn't have a clue

But you being a computer tech without a MD does?

Correct?

Last I checked neither of us could legally pose as a doctor?

If I'm wrong please tell me... are you a licensed doctor?

Because you have no more of a clue than I do just because you read some magazine in the waiting room and a doctor gave you a 5 minute lecture on why it was ok to abort your kid.

I'm sorry anytime I try to bring up an open dialogue about abortion you have to take it personal but this question was about as unpersonal as a question could get.

This thread had nothing to do with anyone in specific so stop making it personal.

 

[NEO]

sure but don't pretend it's just an innocent question trying to get some feedback. All he's looking for is to make another uneducated "baby killer" remark at someone. That's actually the part that sucks

baby is 2 minutes away from being born and they complete the abortion right as she goes into labor... would that be defined as a baby killer to you?

just asking and that is the only question I will ask regarding your stance and will not follow up because this is not the thread for it.

I'm asking because I believe you'll say yes, which means you have already set a "life starts" day in your head.

At some point, doctors will be able to pin point that day.

 

[Coach Grizz]

sure but don't pretend it's just an innocent question trying to get some feedback. All he's looking for is to make another uneducated "baby killer" remark at someone. That's actually the part that sucks

Me or neocon?

 

[RespectTradition]

Now let me ask you this, what about a twelve year old little girl raped by a relative or a pervert? Should it be aborted?

assumption #1 - abortion is not murder
answer: it does not matter what caused the pregnancy, it is just an elective procedure for the benefit of the mother

assumption #2 - abortion is murder
answer: murdering someone for your own benefit is wrong even if that someone's father is a bastich

 

[utvolpj]

But you being a computer tech without a MD does?

Correct?

Last I checked neither of us could legally pose as a doctor?

If I'm wrong please tell me... are you a licensed doctor?

Because you have no more of a clue than I do just because you read some magazine in the waiting room and a doctor gave you a 5 minute lecture on why it was ok to abort your kid.

I'm sorry anytime I try to bring up an open dialogue about abortion you have to take it personal but this question was about as unpersonal as a question could get.

This thread had nothing to do with anyone in specific so stop making it personal.

again you talk without knowing anything. I have quite a bit of info and knowledge on the subject although it doesn't really require using any of it to realize you're completely wrong

Me or neocon?

definitely not you :hi:

 

[NEO]

assumption #1 - abortion is not murder
answer: it does not matter what caused the pregnancy, it is just an elective procedure for the benefit of the mother

assumption #2 - abortion is murder
answer: murdering someone for your own benefit is wrong even if that someone's father is a bastich

I see you've read some of Kant's stuff.

 

[NEO]

yeah but you have no MD. You're nothing special...I'm glad you're read up on women's world and stuff but calling me clueless because we disagree is pathetic.

Flat out pathetic.

 

[utvolpj]

yeah but you have no MD do you're nothing special...I'm glad you're read up on women's world and stuff but calling me clueless because we disagree is pathetic.

Flat out pathetic.

just more ignorance lol:

 

[Coach Grizz]

again you talk without knowing anything. I have quite a bit of info and knowledge on the subject although it doesn't really require using any of it to realize you're completely wrong



definitely not you :hi:

Got ya

 

[NEO]

just more ignorance lol:

so cool.

yet again the you're calling posters names and putting them down because they disagree with you.

keep laughing by the way.

your kid as it was being ripped apart sure wasnt.

see, I can make this personal too.

difference is you will nix the thread and my post because you're a mod.

but hey, lets make this personal.

 

[utvolpj]

I called no one a name. You continue to cross lines of decency that should be obvious to any normal human. I've posted my experience before and won't rehash it but it's pretty clear you either didn't read it or just couldn't understand it.

 

[RespectTradition]

his past history on the subject suggests otherwise

sure but don't pretend it's just an innocent question trying to get some feedback. All he's looking for is to make another uneducated "baby killer" remark at someone. That's actually the part that sucks

again you talk without knowing anything. I have quite a bit of info and knowledge on the subject although it doesn't really require using any of it to realize you're completely wrong



definitely not you :hi:

just more ignorance lol:

so cool.

yet again the you're calling posters names and putting them down because they disagree with you.

but hey, lets make this personal.

Dude, why would you think any of that was personal?

 

[NEO]

I called no one a name. You continue to cross lines of decency that should be obvious to any normal human. I've posted my experience before and won't rehash it but it's pretty clear you either didn't read it or just couldn't understand it.

You called me clueless.

There was no agenda in this thread. Just a question.

History never looks back upon a generation the same way the generatio viewed itself. It was a fair question.

 

[utvolpj]

words like "butchered" and "sub-human" do not make it an honest question. And I'll stand by my clueless remark

 

[NEO]

words like "butchered" and "sub-human" do not make it an honest question. And I'll stand by my clueless remark

Slaves were considered sub-human and were butchered. Even blacks in the MLK walks wore signs that said "I am a MAN" to show they were they deserved to be treated like a real man and an equal.

Slaves were also butchered as aborted babies are.

The process to abort a baby is very, very barbaric and if you are well read on the subject you know how late stage abortions work.

It is a fair example.

I am sorry that we were not able to have an open discussion here due to your bias towards me.

It could and maybe might still be an honest, debate.

I am only asking that if you can not be unbias towards me in this thread than to stay out of it.

 

[Nerd-Vol]

Can they pick cotton, or perform manual labor or be raped? No they can't. Not a slave IMO.


Also children can't vote, neither could women for a while. We're they slaves?

 

[PKT_VOL]

I am a big proponent of the soul; or, at least, my own soul.

Reading a lot of Socrates lately, just curious as to when you think the "soul" enters the body, where does it come from beforehand, where does it go after death?

Question: is there fire in a match?

Plato's forms?

I think I know the answers, but same question that posed to TRUT.

baby is 2 minutes away from being born and they complete the abortion right as she goes into labor... would that be defined as a baby killer to you?

This might be the dumbest use of exaggeration I have read in this forum in awhile.

At some point, doctors will be able to pin point that day.

Not sure how many posters have to post the obvious answer for you to realize that you are completely in the wrong. It is philosophical, not scientific. Subjective, not objective.

Also children can't vote, neither could women for a while. We're they slaves?

Given the right circumstances, one could make parallel arguments.

 

[joevol320]

don't forget the whole reason democrats really pushed abortion was to limited the number of black babies. I'd say they've done well in accomplishing their goal.

 

[therealUT]

Reading a lot of Socrates lately, just curious as to when you think the "soul" enters the body, where does it come from beforehand, where does it go after death?

I am not much of a proponent of the Platonic soul; I am much more Aristotelian, where the soul is intellect. I do not know when the 'soul' enters the body; I do not know where it comes from; I do not know where it goes after the body dies.