Uniform/Helmet/Shoe design thread (merged)

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#2,378
I think the staff is pretty "in tune" with what looks good and what doesn't. They have put the time in with the team and have a great group that does some pretty remarkable things with designs of...whatever. I trust we will look sharp.
 
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#2,379
Vol865 said:
Ah. Has it ever been discussed as a possibility? I think its a happy medium between what everyone likes.
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No. The AD gets all sorts of drawings and samples from fans, but can't really consider them for a variety of reasons.

First, UT is contractually obligated to use the designs done for them by their apparel provider, whether it's adidas now or Nike in the future. They can't hand a fan's design to Nike and tell them to put a Swoosh on it. Nike has teams of designers that work for them, and Nike has various obligations to them.

This issue came up with adidas in 2009 with the Lane Kiffin "It's Time" shirts. Adidas was supposed to sponsor the shirt sold in stores, but UT allowed fans to vote on three designs that were done locally. After an initial run, the shirts with the logo had to be pulled because Adidas couldn't put their logo on a shirt that wasn't designed by their design group because of the contracts adidas had with their designers. It's also why you see many shirt designs that are only available to players and staff. Those are done internally by UT and put on Adidas shirts.

Second, if a fan submits a design, then UT would owe them royalties for using the design. That's not a business UT (or any school/team) can really afford to get into. If a fan sends in a design and UT ends up using something similar, the designer can sue UT for "stealing" his design, whether they did or not. That happened when the Baltimore Ravens changed their logo, it ended up similar to a fan-submitted design and they spent the next 10 years in court over royalties.

Because of the lawsuit threat, most submissions are not ever seen by anyone other than a secretary, who has to dispose of them.
 
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DeerPark12 said:
No. The AD gets all sorts of drawings and samples from fans, but can't really consider them for a variety of reasons.

First, UT is contractually obligated to use the designs done for them by their apparel provider, whether it's adidas now or Nike in the future. They can't hand a fan's design to Nike and tell them to put a Swoosh on it. Nike has teams of designers that work for them, and Nike has various obligations to them.

This issue came up with adidas in 2009 with the Lane Kiffin "It's Time" shirts. Adidas was supposed to sponsor the shirt sold in stores, but UT allowed fans to vote on three designs that were done locally. After an initial run, the shirts with the logo had to be pulled because Adidas couldn't put their logo on a shirt that wasn't designed by their design group because of the contracts adidas had with their designers. It's also why you see many shirt designs that are only available to players and staff. Those are done internally by UT and put on Adidas shirts.

Second, if a fan submits a design, then UT would owe them royalties for using the design. That's not a business UT (or any school/team) can really afford to get into. If a fan sends in a design and UT ends up using something similar, the designer can sue UT for "stealing" his design, whether they did or not. That happened when the Baltimore Ravens changed their logo, it ended up similar to a fan-submitted design and they spent the next 10 years in court over royalties.

Because of the lawsuit threat, most submissions are not ever seen by anyone other than a secretary, who has to dispose of them.
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Could be pretty easily solved with a grant of rights that unilaterally licenses the design to the school for free ad infinitem and would take a copyright attorney all of about an hour to draw up.
 
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#2,382
NashVOL93 said:
Could be pretty easily solved with a grant of rights that unilaterally licenses the design to the school for free ad infinitem and would take a copyright attorney all of about an hour to draw up.
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WHOOOOOOOSH.

I'm not a smart man.
 
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#2,383
DeerPark12 said:
No. The AD gets all sorts of drawings and samples from fans, but can't really consider them for a variety of reasons.

First, UT is contractually obligated to use the designs done for them by their apparel provider, whether it's adidas now or Nike in the future. They can't hand a fan's design to Nike and tell them to put a Swoosh on it. Nike has teams of designers that work for them, and Nike has various obligations to them.

This issue came up with adidas in 2009 with the Lane Kiffin "It's Time" shirts. Adidas was supposed to sponsor the shirt sold in stores, but UT allowed fans to vote on three designs that were done locally. After an initial run, the shirts with the logo had to be pulled because Adidas couldn't put their logo on a shirt that wasn't designed by their design group because of the contracts adidas had with their designers. It's also why you see many shirt designs that are only available to players and staff. Those are done internally by UT and put on Adidas shirts.

Second, if a fan submits a design, then UT would owe them royalties for using the design. That's not a business UT (or any school/team) can really afford to get into. If a fan sends in a design and UT ends up using something similar, the designer can sue UT for "stealing" his design, whether they did or not. That happened when the Baltimore Ravens changed their logo, it ended up similar to a fan-submitted design and they spent the next 10 years in court over royalties.

Because of the lawsuit threat, most submissions are not ever seen by anyone other than a secretary, who has to dispose of them.
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I understand....has there ever been a helmet with just an orange face mask proposed by adidas? Just curious.
 
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#2,388
NashVOL93 said:
Could be pretty easily solved with a grant of rights that unilaterally licenses the design to the school for free ad infinitem and would take a copyright attorney all of about an hour to draw up.
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Long term issues with that. Again, several pieces of litigation over the years against teams have made them leery of doing it in any capacity.
 
#2,389
#2,389
This would be my favorite design. That's going old school with a new flair to it. Honestly it's badas*
 

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