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BigZiti09 said:
I bet the same group of people who think this doctor is some kind of martyr are the same people who want to jail every single cop who shoots someone.

They say things like "he didn't deserve to die for stealing from a store." That's not why they got shot. They got shot for their actions after. False narrative.

Same with the doc. "He didn't deserve to take a beating for their screw up." He didn't. He took the beating for refusing to get off the plane. False narrative.

Then they come up with every hypothetical under the sun to suggest other alternatives that don't end with the outcome we got on Monday. How about you have a little respect for authority and use a little common sense? That's one way this gets resolved without getting bloodied up.
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Lol. The false narrative is comparing this guy to a thug that got whacked in the act of committing a felony.
 
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#502
#502
BigZiti09 said:
Airline messed up on overbooking or whatever you want to call it. Removing this guy wasn't a mistake. It was how they were going to correct their original mistake.

I would say countless times people have been overbooked and booted to another flight. This is the only one I have seen on the news. The ONLY reason you hear about this one is because the shocking nature of the video (which doesn't show the whole story) that gives people the opportunity to feign outrage. The SJW crowd and the entitlement generation running to latch on to the cause of mistreated passengers. Give me a break.
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Safe to say if they came to get you off a flight you were already buckled in for you'd just willingly comply, right?
 
#504
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BigZiti09 said:
I bet the same group of people who think this doctor is some kind of martyr are the same people who want to jail every single cop who shoots someone.

They say things like "he didn't deserve to die for stealing from a store." That's not why they got shot. They got shot for their actions after. False narrative.
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If you want to argue this situation, argue it. No reason to throw all this ignorant hyperbole out there.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
How this guy is viewed as some sort of hero is a joke.
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Don't iew him as a hero, but definitely still don't see where he broke any regulation. BD has posted the CoC but if you actually read it,there is nothing in that he broke IMO..... And would be willing to bet the courts opinion as well. We shall see
 
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BearCat204 said:
Don't iew him as a hero, but definitely still don't see where he broke any regulation. BD has posted the CoC but if you actually read it,there is nothing in that he broke IMO..... And would be willing to bet the courts opinion as well. We shall see
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Agreed. Once they let him board the plane I think the option of getting your airline employees on goes out the window.

Did hear on the news this morning united is giving the supervisor the option of offering up to 10,000 to get a passenger to say yes if bumped.
 
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MyBloodRunnethOrange said:
If you need to get to your destination you don't have much choice. And I'm hoping Congress does take some sort of action. A person shouldn't be forced to sign an agreement like that in order to fly home. The industry has you over a barrel and it's wrong. If I book a flight whether it's days or even months in advance I should have the security that the ticket that I paid for is going to be honored. I shouldn't have to worry that I'm going to get bumped at the last minute because the airline is greedy and or incompetent.
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Totally agree, how in the hell is the position so hard to understand?
 
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Orange_Vol1321 said:
Agreed. Once they let him board the plane I think the option of getting your airline employees on goes out the window.

Did hear on the news this morning united is giving the supervisor the option of offering up to 10,000 to get a passenger to say yes if bumped.
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Why should actually boarding the plane be the deciding moment? It's not like it's a difficult process to stand up and walk off the plane.

This isn't just because you said it, I've seen several people say it. In the entire fiasco, I don't see what's so special about sitting down that should determine whether or not they can bump him.

Already taxiing? Sure. Now you're involving other ground traffic and tower coordination. But just sitting in the gate? Whatever, get up and walk off. No big deal.
 
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BigZiti09 said:
Airline messed up on overbooking or whatever you want to call it. Removing this guy wasn't a mistake. It was how they were going to correct their original mistake.

I would say countless times people have been overbooked and booted to another flight. This is the only one I have seen on the news. The ONLY reason you hear about this one is because the shocking nature of the video (which doesn't show the whole story) that gives people the opportunity to feign outrage. The SJW crowd and the entitlement generation running to latch on to the cause of mistreated passengers. Give me a break.
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I am no SJW. The airlines mistreat people, there is a cause. This particular guy is just giving you ammunition because he is a wart on society. What if the beat up passenger had been you? Say your loved one had been in an accident or some other medical trauma and had hours to live...would you have caught like this dude did, or just meekly disembarked the plane? There are a ton of other situations that would justify extreme anger.
 
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TheDeeble said:
Why should actually boarding the plane be the deciding moment? It's not like it's a difficult process to stand up and walk off the plane.

This isn't just because you said it, I've seen several people say it. In the entire fiasco, I don't see what's so special about sitting down that should determine whether or not they can bump him.

Already taxiing? Sure. Now you're involving other ground traffic and tower coordination. But just sitting in the gate? Whatever, get up and walk off. No big deal.
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Example would be someone with carry on luggage struggling to get it on the plane being reversed to get it off the plane. Thinking of my 70 year old mom in this situation having to do this not this doctor.

If they are gonna offer up to 10k to a passenger to help them decide to wait for the next flight couldn't United get them a private flight for all four workers for that price from Chicago to Louisville?
 
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hmanvolfan said:
If you were the party that is going to have to pay him court ordered damages you wouldn't think it was so funny.
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Trust me I wouldn't. I think it's a ****ing joke he's going to get any money at all. I certainly don't think the airline industry is perfect by any means, but he doesn't deserve the payout he's going to get or that some of you and the SJW's think he should.

I love the irony of being called a sheep because I would get off the plane when asked to by a police officer, just like about 99.5% of this country, but it's cool to be faux outraged by a 15 second video clip because it's on Facebook or Twitter. If the cop hadn't been stupid and busted his head on an armrest nobody would give a ****.
 
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#515
I saw today where Delta changed the ability of a gate agent to offer up to $2000 for denied boarding and a supervisor can offer as much as $9950. So do all of you "the airline did nothing wrong" people think Delta did this because they are so kind hearted, or do you think they learned a lesson?
Airlines are in the customer service business and jerking someone off of a plane without them feeling justly compensated is part of doing business. Overbook and all is fine until you need the seats, when you do raise the stakes until someone thinks it's in there best financial interests to take the offer. Problem solved.
 
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VolStrom said:
I saw today where Delta changed the ability of a gate agent to offer up to $2000 for denied boarding and a supervisor can offer as much as $9950. So do all of you "the airline did nothing wrong" people think Delta did this because they are so kind hearted, or do you think they learned a lesson?
Airlines are in the customer service business and jerking someone off of a plane without them feeling justly compensated is part of doing business. Overbook and all is fine until you need the seats, when you do raise the stakes until someone thinks it's in there best financial interests to take the offer. Problem solved.
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Can you buy tickets and just go give them up for$9,950? That'd be a good living 😬
 
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VolStrom said:
I saw today where Delta changed the ability of a gate agent to offer up to $2000 for denied boarding and a supervisor can offer as much as $9950. So do all of you "the airline did nothing wrong" people think Delta did this because they are so kind hearted, or do you think they learned a lesson?
Airlines are in the customer service business and jerking someone off of a plane without them feeling justly compensated is part of doing business. Overbook and all is fine until you need the seats, when you do raise the stakes until someone thinks it's in there best financial interests to take the offer. Problem solved.
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Agreed. And the regional airlines which operate under the big airlines have the same policies. Something tells me that this situation probably wouldn't happen if it had been a United operated as opposed Republic operated flight.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
Trust me I wouldn't. I think it's a ****ing joke he's going to get any money at all. I certainly don't think the airline industry is perfect by any means, but he doesn't deserve the payout he's going to get or that some of you and the SJW's think he should.

I love the irony of being called a sheep because I would get off the plane when asked to by a police officer, just like about 99.5% of this country, but it's cool to be faux outraged by a 15 second video clip because it's on Facebook or Twitter. If the cop hadn't been stupid and busted his head on an armrest nobody would give a ****.
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Well, I never said the dude deserved anything for this incident, I just know that's what's going to happen after reading about what happened on that plane. Simmah down Baaaa Baaaa. Just kidding. :p
 
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joevol33 said:
Can you buy tickets and just go give them up for$9,950? That'd be a good living 😬
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Yeah it would and I'd like to see them ever offer $1500 or so before someone bites.

I've only taken the offer once and it was for $400 on a flight from Atlanta to Knoxville and the next flight left in an hour, so to me it was worth it. Used the voucher on my next flight with no problem.
 
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VolStrom said:
I saw today where Delta changed the ability of a gate agent to offer up to $2000 for denied boarding and a supervisor can offer as much as $9950. So do all of you "the airline did nothing wrong" people think Delta did this because they are so kind hearted, or do you think they learned a lesson?
Airlines are in the customer service business and jerking someone off of a plane without them feeling justly compensated is part of doing business. Overbook and all is fine until you need the seats, when you do raise the stakes until someone thinks it's in there best financial interests to take the offer. Problem solved.
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Mentioned this earlier Volstrom. If they were going to offer a passenger 10k to take the next flight wouldn't 10k buy a private flight from Chicago to Louisville for their four workers?
 
#521
#521
Orange_Vol1321 said:
Mentioned this earlier Volstrom. If they were going to offer a passenger 10k to take the next flight wouldn't 10k buy a private flight from Chicago to Louisville for their four workers?
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It might, I honestly have no idea what a private flight cost on no notice. The logistics for me would say no.

ETA: Who in the hell would let the bidding get to $10k before they gave up their seat anyway? My guess is around $1500 to $2000 people would be climbing over their selves to give up a seat.
 
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#524
#524
VolStrom said:
It might, I honestly have no idea what a private flight cost on no notice. The logistics for me would say no.

ETA: Who in the hell would let the bidding get to $10k before they gave up their seat anyway? My guess is around $1500 to $2000 people would be climbing over their selves to give up a seat.
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Someone had said a passenger said he'd get off for $1600 and they just laughed at him. Probably wishing they could get that back...
 
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