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RE Jones vs. Graves: This much I know, you are never going to develop any confidence shooting the ball if you don't shoot it. That goes for everybody. Players who don't shoot are almost useless because the opponent can sag back and not guard him or her. We had one dependable scorer inside last year--an undersized Harrison--and Maryland completely exploited that weakness (along with our defense). Jones and Graves both have issues--Graves has no offensive game and Jones doesn't seem to have much of a head for the game--that need to be addressed if UT is to get better.
 
#52
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If you do one, you have to do all. Jordan shot 38%. Amass shot 38% and Burdick shot 39%.

Ummmmm why do I have to do them all? The discussion was about JJ and JJ had a lower FG% than all of them. Nobody is saying Jordan should be starting (except for the fool that said she is a better PG than Ariel), Ariel starting is a given, and no matter how bad Burdick is on the wing, she should start everyday over JJ. Despite that FG% from last season, she is a MUCH better shooter than JJ and it isn't close.

Guess who had the highest 3-point % of the team at 53% Jones.

She took a whopping 15 3's on the season. I guess we should turn her into our desginated three point shooter now. :whistling:

In all seriousness, she should probably take more. Her ballhandling is attrocious and she is a turnover waiting to happen when she dribbles, and she misses tons of layups, so maybe she actually should stick to shooting threes.

She was fourth in steals behind Draya, Meg, and Izzy.

IOW she was somewhere near the middle of the pack.

I think your confusing her with another player cause I didn't see her take any ill-advised shots.

LOL, no, I'm not confusing her with anyone.

Many of times she was hesitant to take shots when she was open.

You are right ... but so am I. You are now seeing the enigma that is Jasmine Jones. A player that one minute takes two or three bad shots in a row and then looks hesitant to shoot. I'm assuming it may have something to do with the coaching staff telling her to let the more efficient players take the shots. I don't blame them for telling her that after she gets shot happy. That's what they should be doing.
 
#53
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I agree with Volcrazy89 but will add that JJ's best quality IMO is that she values every possession, both on offense and on defense. I never see her let up for a second while she's on the floor. She may not have starter skills but can be very effective as a role player, disrupting the opponent's offense with her athleticism and with rebounding.
 
#54
#54
Sometimes the fans forget about players development. Jasmine coming out of high school with her athleticism was still a four. I think the coaches have done an outstanding job with her, this year, this summer will be her year or not. She went form being a role player, reluctant star to an aggressive player by the end of the season.

The coaches will take those turnovers, cos they had her playing the 2,3 and 4 in big games and pressure moments, and for the most part, she competed to the best of her ability. She will be fine. She is a competitor. Depending on the summer, she should be a starter next year. She just need to play more basketball and leave the boys alone. lol

Beastshaara, didn't develop much this past year. She relied on what worked for her the previous year, her freshman all SEC year, and she looked and played like a player who had arrived, not understanding that teams/defenses will take away what you like to do. Sometimes so much success early on is not a good thing for player development or growth. Graves needs to get in the gym. She needs a good offseason. She should be an All American next year, if progression hold true.


In player progression/development, Jasmine goes into this summer with a lead over Graves and Burdcik at the three and four spot. She can only play one position. Right now, she is the best three on the team, if they do not put Reynolds there. Right now she is the second best four (behind Izzy) and 2 (Reynolds) on the squad.

Izzy is an All American she is the best four and five on the team. She cannot play both spots.

And all the turnovers, I expected as much with a young team, who come from different high school programs who coaches emphasize different things. We had two freshman point guards, a senior who really didn't know how to play team basketball in Meighan, but will compete. And wing players who couldn't handle the rock.

Burdick for me has been the biggest disappointment, #4 ranked player coming out of high school. She speaks well. I wish her game matched her talk.

Right now: Reynolds, Izzy and Jasmine all have starter spots if their progression continues, they showed up in all the big games, three of the best athletes, outside of Draya.

Whoever joins them we'll see, this should make for an exciting and competitive summer, cos with all those players, competition and playing time is going to be at a premium, the coaches have restored order, the Lady Vols are back. There will be competition at every position this upcoming year, bad attitude, not competing, you will be on the bench. Defense, boards and team basketball will be rewarded, veterans team more teaching.

The freshman, their freshman who cares. lol
 
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The one problem I have with Jones as a guard/wing, well, there are actually two problems, are she doesn't have a very good handle, and I believe she must have a real high shot attempts per minutes played (didn't look it up but appears that way). She seems to shoot it every chance she gets like that is the only way she can create offense. That is she doesn't seem to be very imaginative and get anyone else involved. The same can also be said for Burdick to some degree. That's why I like Jeff Bridges' idea of trying her at the four because she's very quick for her size and can jump so she might be able to exploit those strengths at the four.
 
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#56
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The one problem I have with Jones as a guard/wing, well, there are actually two problems, are she doesn't have a very good handle, and I believe she must have a real high shot attempts per minutes played (didn't look it up but appears that way). She seems to shoot it every chance she gets like that is the only way she can create offense. That is she doesn't seem to be very imaginative and get anyone else involved. The same can also be said for Burdick to some degree. That's why I like Jeff Bridges' idea of trying her at the four because she's very quick for her size and can jump so she might be able to exploit those strengths at the four.

At the 4 spot she would draw a lot of fouls going up for her shot....It would be an adjustment to play the 4, but the 3 spot is loaded with 3 point shooters with good handles... Jones does not possess good handles and loses the ball to frequently.....She loses the ball in traffic, in part because she dribbles to high and does not protect the ball....

She is a gamer and gives 100% on every play...She is one of my favorite LVs, but I recognize the weaknesses her game has shown, at least up to this point.
 
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and I believe she must have a real high shot attempts per minutes played (didn't look it up but appears that way).

She is fifth on the team in shots taken per minute played. Simmons, Harrison, Burdick and Massengale are ahead of her.

Simmons shot every two minutes of play. The next four were closer to once every three minutes.

On a related subject, player efficiency ratings (accounting for all stats) indicated that these were our top five players in order;

Harrison
Simmons
Massengale
Russell
Graves

The worst two were by far Moore and Jones. Their efficiency ratings were nearly identical, but Moore didn't play much, and not at all against good competition with the game on the line so it is not quite apples to apples. But then these things never are.
 
#58
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Why does that matter, if the other players are scared to shoot and some players with poor shooting percentage, shot too much. Sometimes all these stats are bogus, but as a basketball players, she improved the most this season with Izzy and Jordan Reynolds as the season went along with Draya.

Name players at the three spot with better handles, besides the incoming freshman, and handles in high school does not translate to handles in college. By the end of the season she got to her spots. Her upside is bigger than anyone on our current roster besides the freshman. Jasmine do ya thang cos last year, no other player played the 2, 3, 4 spot, there is a learning curve and Im' glad ur learning.
 
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People are forgetting that Graves played hurt much of last season. Jasmine is no where near as good a player as Graves. Jasmine is basically just a great athlete playing the game of basketball.

Unless the Lady Vols have a Consistently good 3-point shooter this upcoming season, they will be about as good as last season. I would not be counting on an unproven true freshman to be that good of a 3-point shooter.

Without a player who can take over a game, against elite teams, the Lady Vols will not make it to the Final Four.
 
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better is relative, but Jasmine right now can do more in the Lady Vols system than Graves, If you move Graves five feet from the basket, she's average, around the basket she can be an All American but you have to hit the chippies. Graves can't play on the wing, she didn't' play guard last year. Jasmine Jones has a huge ceiling cos she is raw. I am happy with her development, hope it continues.

I feel ya, I don't count on anything from Freshman, what they contribute is a bonus.

Players with an Alpha personality, we might have to wait a full year until DD gets on the floor.
 
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better is relative, but Jasmine right now can do more in the Lady Vols system than Graves, If you move Graves five feet from the basket, she's average, around the basket she can be an All American but you have to hit the chippies. Graves can't play on the wing, she didn't' play guard last year. Jasmine Jones has a huge ceiling cos she is raw. I am happy with her development, hope it continues.

I feel ya, I don't count on anything from Freshman, what they contribute is a bonus.

Players with an Alpha personality, we might have to wait a full year until DD gets on the floor.

Thank you for joining, Mrs. Jones. We like your daughter, but she is still a turnover machine. :birgits_giggle:
 
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People are forgetting that Graves played hurt much of last season. Jasmine is no where near as good a player as Graves. Jasmine is basically just a great athlete playing the game of basketball.

Unless the Lady Vols have a Consistently good 3-point shooter this upcoming season, they will be about as good as last season. I would not be counting on an unproven true freshman to be that good of a 3-point shooter.

Without a player who can take over a game, against elite teams, the Lady Vols will not make it to the Final Four.

Let`s not go there Graves was hurt at one point but to use that as a excuse for her poor play will not cut it. She was a non factor against teams that had tall and good post players. As a Tenn fan im not gonna make excuses for someone or the team. As for Grave she needs a face up game and bad with a range of 15 feet. she`s to don`t have the lift in the post a 6-2 deal deal with teams like Duke,Conn,ND,SCU, and other top post players. Jones played to many mins this past season along with Burdick and that hurt the team big time. As for this up coming season Holly needs to get more mins out of Nared, Dunbar, i think the two are ready to play at the next level.
 
#63
#63
A big unanswered question is how other teams will rise or fall? UCONN losing Dolson and Hartley is definitely not going to help them plus their bench was already short. Baylor losing Sims is huge. Louisville losing Shoni Schimmel is huge. North Carolina losing DeShields is huge. Stanford losing Ogwumike is huge. Notre Dame losing McBride is huge. Maryland losing Thomas is huge.

Us losing Simmons isn't ideal but based on the players coming in and coming back, I feel like we won't have as much trouble reloading as those other teams I just mentioned.

Honestly to me, us and South Carolina are the two main teams on paper that had top 10 success last year and seemed poised to make big upgrades RELATIVE to last year. But, new teams and new players from the same teams can often come out of no where, so it's not a hard and fast rule, but it's something to keep an eye on.
 
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A big unanswered question is how other teams will rise or fall?

Us losing Simmons isn't ideal but based on the players coming in and coming back, I feel like we won't have as much trouble reloading as those other teams I just mentioned.
I do believe that with Stewart, KML, Jefferson, Tuck and Stokes Uconn has more coming back than Tennessee and also has a higher rated incoming class in 2014.
 
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I heard Stewart quit, KML joined the Marines, Jefferson left to find her lost mojo, Tuck went crosseyed crazy, & Stokes is driving a garbage truck in Chitown...


better get some more gurls, DDaddy...... lol
 
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I heard Stewart quit, KML joined the Marines, Jefferson left to find her lost mojo, Tuck went crosseyed crazy, & Stokes is driving a garbage truck in Chitown...


better get some more gurls, DDaddy...... lol

Funny....I think. Didn't you wish they were all sick earlier in this thread?
 
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Funny....I think. Didn't you wish they were all sick earlier in this thread?

You have to understand gule. He's really a nice guy :); just a wee bit twisted :crazy:... So all you need is a box of salt :whistling:; a shaker won't be enough with gule. Am I right, gule?:hi:
 
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I would like to give a huge shout out to Coach Taylor. In past years, the teams haven't been in shape and I noticed last year that fatigue wasn't a big problem. We could have pressed all last year if it wasn't for foul trouble. Next year should be even better from the strength and conditioning aspect of it.
 
#73
#73
has anybody hired or even tried to hire Moshak(sp?) who was touted as the "best" in the business when Pat was really running the show (pre 2008)?

most overated trainer ever!
 
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I saw where the new men's basketball trainer puts players in a chair and stacks a lot of weight in their laps and they have to sit there and squeeze it as long as they can. I guess this really builds up the arm strength and ability to hold on to the ball.
 

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