Update on King

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If this guy wants to be a big-time talent handler then he needs a catchier name. Sarwar sounds more like a terrorist.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Which is fine, and I can see that, but still provides no reasoning of why push all his trainees to UT? He has nothing to gain by doing that, in fact, one could argue if he's trying to really maximize his benefit he'd push them to the program most likely to put them in the league, and that wouldn't be UT.

Do I find it fishy and odd that he's become a trainer and latching on to big time prospects, absolutely. However, I don't think he's pushing any of his trainees to any school, and if we land Nichols I don't think it's because of him as many Memphis fans are saying.
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I may have misspoken if I said that I believe he is "pushing" players. I don't know, but I believe I read a while back that he was trying to become the pipeline from Memphis to UT. And I believe that it was a UT poster that posted that. It's been a while back and I can't direct anyone to that post so take it for what its worth. If you have no problem with him being around your program, who am I to argue. I'm a Memphis fan and I'm not going to pretend I'm a fan of your program. I've read enough of the post here to know how most of this site feels about my city and my team. I just tried to answer the question that you keep asking over and over. Just keep in mind if that letter comes from the NCAA, that I told you what I thought he was all about. I've been respectful on your site but it seems you keep asking this question over and over to make Memphis fans look bad. Youve had two poster give the same answer and yet you refuse to accept it.
 
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Because its a BS answer, I get what HE has Gain by affiliating himself, but noboy has answered what HE has to gain by pushing them to UT as many of the Memphians are suggesting? It makes zero sense.
 
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Shaun1985 said:
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No need to bring out the OTHER thing locked in Sandusky's basement out here.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Because its a BS answer, I get what HE has Gain by affiliating himself, but noboy has answered what HE has to gain by pushing them to UT as many of the Memphians are suggesting? It makes zero sense.
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It's not that Tony Starwars is pushing the kids to UT. Some coachessimply find the fact that he's "around" unsettling and it may turn schools off of these kids. I can't tell you how many stories I've read of handlers like this getting coaches, schools and players in trouble. UCF, USC/Mayo, Derrick Rose, etc. Starwars may not be doing anything wrong, but what high-major coach has the time to do a background check on a two-bit wanna be trainer to see if a kid is clean.

Counzo took a calculated risk, as several coaches did, in signing Jarnell because of what "handlers" like Starwars can mean for a player. Some coaches may think it's not worth the risk, ultimately narrowing potential schools for the prospect. Jarnell, Nichols need to but ties with this guy ASAP, as he brings nothing to the table for them.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
It's not that Tony Starwars is pushing the kids to UT. Some coachessimply find the fact that he's "around" unsettling and it may turn schools off of these kids. I can't tell you how many stories I've read of handlers like this getting coaches, schools and players in trouble. UCF, USC/Mayo, Derrick Rose, etc. Starwars may not be doing anything wrong, but what high-major coach has the time to do a background check on a two-bit wanna be trainer to see if a kid is clean.

Counzo took a calculated risk, as several coaches did, in signing Jarnell because of what "handlers" like Starwars can mean for a player. Some coaches may think it's not worth the risk, ultimately narrowing potential schools for the prospect. Jarnell, Nichols need to but ties with this guy ASAP, as he brings nothing to the table for them.
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I think we are kidding ourselves to believe any coach in America is personally performing background checks on anyone. If it needed to be done, any one out of the hundreds of employees in the athletic department could do it at any time, so a coach "having time" isn't really an issue.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
It's not that Tony Starwars is pushing the kids to UT. Some coachessimply find the fact that he's "around" unsettling and it may turn schools off of these kids. I can't tell you how many stories I've read of handlers like this getting coaches, schools and players in trouble. UCF, USC/Mayo, Derrick Rose, etc. Starwars may not be doing anything wrong, but what high-major coach has the time to do a background check on a two-bit wanna be trainer to see if a kid is clean.

Counzo took a calculated risk, as several coaches did, in signing Jarnell because of what "handlers" like Starwars can mean for a player. Some coaches may think it's not worth the risk, ultimately narrowing potential schools for the prospect. Jarnell, Nichols need to but ties with this guy ASAP, as he brings nothing to the table for them.
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Well a lot of the posters on those Memphis boards seem to think he's pushing them to UT, which was my original point if you remember.

What coaches have bailed on stokes and Nichols? Josh, cal, k, Roy...basically every one of the best basketball schools coaches in America have been after atleast 1 of those 2 until the end, obviously they weren't too worried about Sarwar. Once again, my op was the fact the Memphis people seem to think stokes is here because of Sarwar, and if Nichols comes here its because of Sarwar and thats what I didn't understand. Why isn't everyone saying that about if duke pulls him, that it's because of Sarwar?
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think we are kidding ourselves to believe any coach in America is personally performing background checks on anyone. If it needed to be done, any one out of the hundreds of employees in the athletic department could do it at any time, so a coach "having time" isn't really an issue.
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I think you're VASTLY overestimating the staff that college coaches have.

They could have compliance look into it, but have you ever met anyone that works in compliance at a major university? It'd be like putting Mr. Magoo on the Lindbergh kidnapping.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Well a lot of the posters on those Memphis boards seem to think he's pushing them to UT, which was my original point if you remember.

What coaches have bailed on stokes and Nichols? Josh, cal, k, Roy...basically every one of the best basketball schools coaches in America have been after atleast 1 of those 2 until the end, obviously they weren't too worried about Sarwar. Once again, my op was the fact the Memphis people seem to think stokes is here because of Sarwar, and if Nichols comes here its because of Sarwar and thats what I didn't understand. Why isn't everyone saying that about if duke pulls him, that it's because of Sarwar?
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Like I've said before, there are idiots in every fanbase.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
Like I've said before, there are idiots in every fanbase.
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I'm fine with...Sarwar is sketchy because he's gotten involved with these kids and really doesn't have a background typical of someone that'd be their trainer. He doesn't seem to be pushing kids anywhere or involved with a certain school or brand, just seems to be out for his own notoriety.

However, that's not what was said, which is why I took issue. People saying he's pushing kids to UT, and that if Nichols goes to UT it's because of Sarwar is what I had an issue with and wanted an explanation of. However, in all of these posts I've yet to see a memphis fan, or anyone, provide an educated explanation.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
I think you're VASTLY overestimating the staff that college coaches have.
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I think there is plenty of manpower in a major D1 athletic department to perform a simple background check in an effort to spare the head coach from doing it. This isn't the 1940's. He has a secretary. Even she could do it. It's not rocket science nor does it require any special qualification.
 
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cncchris33 said:
I think there is plenty of manpower in a major D1 athletic department to perform a simple background check in an effort to spare the head coach from doing it. This isn't the 1940's. He has a secretary. Even she could do it. It's not rocket science nor does it require any special qualification.
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First, it's not a simple background check, not like doing a credit check or something.

Second, my earlier post was hyperbole. The HC isn't doing it himself, but he's spending his staff's man hours when they are already stretched thin.
 
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MemphisCanes said:
First, it's not a simple background check, not like doing a credit check or something.

Second, my earlier post was hyperbole. The HC isn't doing it himself, but he's spending his staff's man hours when they are already stretched thin.
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Really? You mean you don't dial up Equifax or TransUnion to do the thing? Please MC, give me some credit here. Of course it's not that easy, but it's not as strenuous and covert an operation as you're trying to pass off.

Also, his staff is not likely to be involved. It would an athletic department employee or even more likely IMO, an independent investigator from the private sector which would dig into any individual's credentials.
 
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cncchris33 said:
Really? You mean you don't dial up Equifax or TransUnion to do the thing? Please MC, give me some credit here. Of course it's not that easy, but it's not as strenuous and covert an operation as you're trying to pass off.

Also, his staff is not likely to be involved. It would an athletic department employee or even more likely IMO, an independent investigator from the private sector which would dig into any individual's credentials.
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Any coach who doesn't ask questions and do some digging when a handler comes with a kid on a visit just doesn't want to know.
 
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