Update on the Big Ten v. SEC

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Can someone quote Hats comments about UNLV? If he is friends with the coach as he says he is, I wonder how he defends saying they are not very good this year, and that it is the 4th or 5th best job in that conference.

Does anyone think he tells people in Vegas he is friends with Bruce Pearl?
 
#52
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Sorry MHF, you aren't backing out of this one. You were yapping about both DePaul and Arizona being quality wins earlier in the season. So yeah, you did say they were good.
 
#53
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Find the quotes. I said Arizona was not the worst team in 25 years there which is what Hat said. I also pointed to two teams I said were worse.

That is now unlikely but possibly true.

I said Depaul would not go winless in the Big East. They have not. It was not a good win. It would have been much better for us if Northern Iowa had beaten them and we could have that win under our belts.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Find the quotes. I said Arizona was not the worst team in 25 years there which is what Hat said. I also pointed to two teams I said were worse.

That is now unlikely but possibly true.

I said Depaul would not go winless in the Big East. They have not. It was not a good win. It would have been much better for us if Northern Iowa had beaten them and we could have that win under our belts.
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As soon as you find me the quotes where I said any of the bull you have claimed I will get right on that. You see, I don't have to prove myself to anyone here, likely because they remember what you said and I actually know what I am talking about when I come posting basketball commentary.
 
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emainvol said:
As soon as you find me the quotes where I said any of the bull you have claimed I will get right on that. You see, I don't have to prove myself to anyone here, likely because they remember what you said and I actually know what I am talking about when I come posting basketball commentary.
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The DePaul silliness was contained in a thread where UT's nonconference schedule was being lampooned. Then again, there were several of those threads. The idea that beating an Arizona team that is going to break the school's 25 or so year streak of NCAA appearances was floated to elevate Vanderbilt's performance in Maui, where they got blasted by the only decent team they played.
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-basketball/82996-why-do-so-many-you-seem.html

You are right...when one of the few threads you create in basketball is to chide anyone who thinks USC will be a tough game for the Vols and you say they will be lucky to get 6-8 wins, you are a true wizard on basketball insight...
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Yep, I was wrong about USC. And I admitted as much.

Here is where you claimed depaul wouldn't be a bad win come march. Well, they sure aren't a good one, so what are they?

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tennessee-vols-basketball/88540-someone-needs-let-coaches-know.html#post3058648
 
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Also, I would really like MHF to give me a list of folks who didn't think Tennessee would beat USC.
 
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emainvol said:
Also, I would really like MHF to give me a list of folks who didn't think Tennessee would beat USC.
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Nebraska, Loyola Marymount, and Oregon State don't know what all the fuss related to USC is about.
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emainvol said:
Sorry MHF, you aren't backing out of this one. You were yapping about both DePaul and Arizona being quality wins earlier in the season. So yeah, you did say they were good.
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
SEC good returns.

Vanderbilt excellent...

TN pretty good, losing by 1 to #6 and beating a decent Depaul team.

UK has to be the largest disappointment thus far which is hard to say with no losses!

Florida is the best of the bunch in terms of raising their profile.

The entire SEC West is sucking as I said in another thread.

The east looks tons better.
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Depaul is not decent.

Really? The entire west is sucking? Ole Miss is ranked and in this very thread you say that 3 of them are good teams and that 2 will go to the NCAA tourney.

MikeHamiltonFan said:
Either arizona will have their worst season in 25 years or they will not. I say not.
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Depaul will not be a bad win come March. Arizona will not have their worst year in 25 by w and l.
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Well, its certainly not a good win. That doesn't leave many other options.

MikeHamiltonFan said:
Although the big east is still imo clearly the best bball league, they are not quite as deep. When depaul gets back their forward from injury I think they will have a much better season than you do. I am not predicting the tournament, but a good rpi and not a "bad" win.

Arizona has top 25 talent, it is just young. The pac 10 also sucks. Arizona has played some tough teams to start the season, and they will do better than the teams you mentioned who I mentioned as well in earlier threads when I said this will NOT be the worst team in 25 years in AZ.
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The Big East is EXTREMELY DEEP. Stupid statement.

RPI 136 and falling. Again, its not a good win.

Arizona did not have a top 25 class last year, and the year before only had 1 ESPN top 100 player signed. I don't think they have top 25 talent, if they can't even distance themselves in the PAC 10.

MikeHamiltonFan said:
You may not read what I write. It does help when you try to rebut someone to read their argument. I wrote that auburn and georgia are horrible. I also predicted no OOC wins that matter for either team.
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But in this very thread you placed Georgia in a Category with UK/UT/Ole Miss and said that they are truly not a bad team.


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Georgia is absolutely terrible...

Auburn is terrible. Claim to fame is losing by 2 to NC State. They may end up being better than Arkansas this year though.
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It should also be noted that you have made several other bird brained statements and predictions, but you have fallen over your face going back through threads to "re-predict" in an attempt to salvage some of the nonsense.
 
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HF impressive skills. Can you point me to the UNLV thread where Hat said they are the 4th or 5th best team in their league?

I was wrong about UGA. I admit that. I thought they would be really bad all year and they are not.

I said from preseason that Miss. State and Ole Miss were good in the west. I also said that I thought Miss. State had tons of potential if they got Sidney. That is not happening it appears all year thanks to the NCAA being hypocritical bastards who cannot find a punishment for free cars and housing for Reggie Bush but want to keep Sidney out of college.

I still think the Big East is not as deep this year as it was last year. I think you will see that by the end of the season. There are more chances for Ws for Depaul, which by the way lost Mac Koshwal for about half the season so far including lots of the Big East slate. Would not expect you to know who he is, he is their best player.

Decent and not bad = good and quality...Interesting way of looking at things...

I do not have the time or energy to look up the thread about UT playing no one out of conference. It would be funny to laugh at all the people who said Charlotte sucks though.
 
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emainvol said:
Sorry MHF, you aren't backing out of this one. You were yapping about both DePaul and Arizona being quality wins earlier in the season. So yeah, you did say they were good.
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Your constant efforts to try to look more knowledgable than HAT always fails miserably. Give it up, you make ridiculous predictions and statements that you hope at least one will come true to make you look good. All you do is become the laughing stock of this forum.
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
HF impressive skills. Can you point me to the UNLV thread where Hat said they are the 4th or 5th best team in their league?
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hatvol96 said:
1. Kansas State is really good. Ole Miss will get some serious mileage out of their win over the Wildcats come Selection Sunday.
2. Given UT's defensive deficiencies in the backcourt, I'm glad we don't play K State. Pullen and Clemente might combine for 70 against our matadors.
3. UNLV is going to be alright. They just ran into a buzzsaw today.
4. The people at The Orleans have done a really nice job making their arena more basketball friendly. I'd like to see UT sign up for one of the tournaments played in the building.
5. Another great win for New Mexico. The best thing Steve Alford ever did was leave the Big Ten.
6. Louisville has serious problems. If they don't get healthy and focused quick, they are going to get buried in the Big East.
7. The PAC 10 is a disgrace. They should shut down for the season before they further embarrass themselves.
8. Kentucky showed they can take a punch on the road. Their run at the start of the second half was impressive.
9. Indiana is getting there. Crean is one more recruiting class from having them in contention for conference titles.
10. If the coaching rumor mill is right here in Vegas, and it usually is, it's going to be a wild offseason. There are going to be some schools throwing big money around.
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hmanvolfan said:
USC is now beating the hell out of a ranked UNLV team. Who knew?
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hatvol96 said:
That will likely be the last time we see Vegas in the polls during the '09-'10 season.
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hatvol96 said:
1. Belmont is Butler South. Tennessee will not play a team all year that has a better understanding of how their coach wants things done.
2. When Sherron Collins sees the tape of Alex Renfroe using Bobby Maze as a turnstile, he's going to need a bib to keep the drool off his shirt.
3. Josh Tabb made the three biggest plays in the game. Tennessee doesn't win without him.
4. Bruce should be very thankful that Dotson didn't go to Vanderbilt. He would fit their system perfectly.
5. Kudos to the crowd for a nice applause when Coach Byrd's dad, legendary Knoxville Journal columnist Ben Byrd, was shown on the video board.
6. Georgia is the worst 7-3 team in the history of college basketball. If they win 5 SEC games, the league should be stripped of its automatic NCAA bid.
7. The "Arizona is going to be OK" talk can stop now. UNLV smacked them back to reality.
8. Huge win for Minnesota. Now, they have a nonconference win that will resonate with the Selection Committee.
9. Tom Izzo never stays down for long. The Spartans going into Austin and winning today bodes poorly for the rest of the Big Ten.
10. VCU-Oklahoma tonight should be worth watching. Jeff Capel going up against the guys he recruited.
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These are all I found. Either Hat called them something else besides UNLV, or your just imagining things. I'm out of time, got other things to do.
 
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BasketvolsFan said:
Your constant efforts to try to look more knowledgable than HAT always fails miserably. Give it up, you make ridiculous predictions and statements that you hope at least one will come true to make you look good. All you do is become the laughing stock of this forum.
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Did you quote the wrong person?
 
#71
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Hardwood_fanatic said:
These are all I found. Either Hat called them something else besides UNLV, or your just imagining things. I'm out of time, got other things to do.
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I really like that you proved that MHF is wrong as usual.

But come on man, make him do his own dirty work and search.

You're better than that.
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#72
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Lofton4Three said:
I really like that you proved that MHF is wrong as usual.

But come on man, make him do his own dirty work and search.

You're better than that.
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Perhaps. It seems that he likes to mention it, but not find/show the proof. (A common theme in his posts) Because more than likely, the proof does not exist. So waiting for him to do anything productive is an exercise in futility.
 
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hatvol96
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol
It's not a top program. Tark built the legend and killed it when done. It's a reasonable job, but beneath Kruger IMO, but that happens to job hoppers.

"Top programs" don't struggle to make the 'AAs out of the Mountain West. It's not even the best job in that league. Hell, it's probably fourth or fifth.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...bruce-pearl-fanclub-thread-6.html#post3058317
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
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Originally Posted by BigPapaVol
It's not a top program. Tark built the legend and killed it when done. It's a reasonable job, but beneath Kruger IMO, but that happens to job hoppers.

"Top programs" don't struggle to make the 'AAs out of the Mountain West. It's not even the best job in that league. Hell, it's probably fourth or fifth.

http://www.volnation.com/forum/tenn...bruce-pearl-fanclub-thread-6.html#post3058317
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First of all, you should really learn to use the quote function better. The way you have posted it, it looks like BPV said all of that.

Hat was responsible for saying this: "Top programs don't struggle to make the 'AAs out of the Mountain West. It's not even the best job in that league. Hell, it's probably fourth or fifth."



Now, I can't help but notice the difference between what you claim Hat said, and what he ACTUALLY said, which you provided proof of.

You say that Hat said "That UNLV would finish 4th or 5th in the conference."

Your provided quote of Hat says nothing of the sort. It says that UNLV is "not even the BEST JOB in that league. Thats it probably 4th or 5th."

Comparing job status does not equal a prediction concerning where a team will finish.

Its just another case to add on the pile of crap which you have created.
 
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