Urban Meyer issues at UF

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Exfix said:
Before we cast stones at Meyer and his preferential treatment of star players, you might ask Dooley about his relationship with Janzen and Da'Rick.

I hope Mushamp rights the ship, I'd rather put a beatdown on Florida when they're at their best.
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I hope that it doesn't backfire on Dooley. I think the Kentucky game was a result of that type of thing.
 
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Exfix said:
Before we cast stones at Meyer and his preferential treatment of star players, you might ask Dooley about his relationship with Janzen and Da'Rick.

I hope Mushamp rights the ship, I'd rather put a beatdown on Florida when they're at their best.
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You'll have to track Janzen down, as he's at another university. And DR is probably still catching his breath from all the running he had to do to stay on the team.

Oh... Wait...
 
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Orange_Crush said:
You'll have to track Janzen down, as he's at another university. And DR is probably still catching his breath from all the running he had to do to stay on the team.

Oh... Wait...
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Do I really need to lay out the Jackson timeline which includes accessory to armed robbery? Might want to take off the orange colored glasses of you think preferential treatment of star players doesn't happen everywhere, all the time, at every level of sports. I would venture a guess that your boss treats their most productive employees differently.
 
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Exfix said:
Do I really need to lay out the Jackson timeline which includes accessory to armed robbery? Might want to take off the orange colored glasses of you think preferential treatment of star players doesn't happen everywhere, all the time, at every level of sports. I would venture a guess that your boss treats their most productive employees differently.
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I don't think he was disagreeing with you. Reread his post and you will catch the sarcasm.
 
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Exfix said:
Before we cast stones at Meyer and his preferential treatment of star players, you might ask Dooley about his relationship with Janzen and Da'Rick.

I hope Mushamp rights the ship, I'd rather put a beatdown on Florida when they're at their best.
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Orange_Crush said:
You'll have to track Janzen down, as he's at another university. And DR is probably still catching his breath from all the running he had to do to stay on the team.

Oh... Wait...
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Exfix said:
Do I really need to lay out the Jackson timeline which includes accessory to armed robbery? Might want to take off the orange colored glasses of you think preferential treatment of star players doesn't happen everywhere, all the time, at every level of sports. I would venture a guess that your boss treats their most productive employees differently.
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I answered the questions you had for CDD. One is off the team and the other had extra conditioning to stay on the team.

Using the specific examples you brought up, I do not see how this equates to CDD losing the team like CUM aparently did. It seems as though CDD has proven that he has a line and will enforce it.

Now, if you were in the legal, team and personal meetings with JJ and DR, then by all means, enlighten us. If not, then you're basing your argument on so much speculation, as opposed to CDD's demonstrated proof that he will cut a star player.

Oh, and... You're changing your argument from specific examples that have been answered to a general appeal that "everyone does it and so does CDD." You are changing the context from CUM losing control of a program to some undefined level of "preferential treatment" by my employer. lol

You may just want to quit now before the argument is about sweatshop labor in China.
 
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jp1 said:
I don't think he was disagreeing with you. Reread his post and you will catch the sarcasm.
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I was completely serious. Comparing the state of the program at UF (if the articles are true) to the UT program at this time is a falacious comparison to say the least.

One coach covers up drug tests and changes conditioning programs when players refuse to complete them. The other kicks his star player off the team and stands firm in kicking another off if he does not complete additional conditioning to earn his way back on the team. And, ironically enough, those were the two misguided examples used to prove the comparison.

It's really funny when you think about it.
 
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Meyer is a lying POS. Gator fans will say 2 NC, heisman, SEC champs, etc...and that fine. The man can win. But all that talk on ESPN about the ills of CF is the best part of that article and reigns on the hypocrisy he stands for.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
I was completely serious. Comparing the state of the program at UF (if the articles are true) to the UT program at this time is a falacious comparison to say the least.

One coach covers up drug tests and changes conditioning programs when players refuse to complete them. The other kicks his star player off the team and stands firm in kicking another off if he does not complete additional conditioning to earn his way back on the team. And, ironically enough, those were the two misguided examples used to prove the comparison.

It's really funny when you think about it.
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Yep.
 
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Also, per the robbery timeline you brought up:

November 2009, robbery happened.

November 2009:

Jackson, 18, and Marie Montmarquet, 22, who was accused of acting as a getaway driver, are no longer facing three charges of attempted armed robbery in the alleged holdup of three men at a convenience store near Tennessee's Knoxville campus.
Jackson and Montmarquet did not know about the robbery beforehand and did not know anything happened until after they left the store, the Knox County District Attorney's office said in a news release.
The decision to drop the charges "was made after an intensive investigation by the Knoxville Police Department, numerous interviews of persons with any relevant information on these charges and reviews of more than 10 hours of video and audio records related to the charges," according to the statement from Knox County District Attorney General Randy Nichols.
"[Jackson] did not know any criminal activity was going to occur," Don Bosch, Jackson's attorney, said. "He did not possess, use or plan to use marijuana. He was simply in the wrong place at the wrong time."

Charges dropped against Tennessee Volunteers' Janzen Jackson - ESPN
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January 2010, CDD hired.

You still want to lay out the JJ robbery timeline? You're just full of bad examples.
 
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Poor ole gators.........done hired the wrong coach. A real pity. Hopefully they get that all fixed up here in the next 8-10 years.
 
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I realize that the most immature fans will simply take delight in negative reporting of a coach who regularly beat you, but if this is what you have to hang your hat on at the end of the day its pretty weak.

Really, nothing remarkable in these stories.
 
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lawgator1 said:
I realize that the most immature fans will simply take delight in negative reporting of a coach who regularly beat you, but if this is what you have to hang your hat on at the end of the day its pretty weak.

Really, nothing remarkable in these stories.
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Ahhhhhh shucks law, didn't mean to hurt your whittle feelings there. So Urbs just up and dumped you. And Foley had a limited budget and hired an assistant coach....repeating the exact same mistake he made with Ron Zook. You got to admit...it is all kinda funny!
 
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lawgator1 said:
I realize that the most immature fans will simply take delight in negative reporting of a coach who regularly beat you, but if this is what you have to hang your hat on at the end of the day its pretty weak.

Really, nothing remarkable in these stories.
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Saban regularly beats UT as well, and I have 10x the respect for Saban that I do for Meyer. You're right, nothing surprising in that article at all. Doesn't surprise me one bit he is really like that.
 
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Jackson_Harris said:
Ahhhhhh shucks law, didn't mean to hurt your whittle feelings there. So Urbs just up and dumped you. And Foley had a limited budget and hired an assistant coach....repeating the exact same mistake he made with Ron Zook. You got to admit...it is all kinda funny!
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Meyer did the same thing that Spurrier did, which was mail in the last season and back off of recruiting for the last two years, leaving the team depleted. Muschamp seems to be recruiting very well.

Not sure where your limited budget comment comes from.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Meyer did the same thing that Spurrier did, which was mail in the last season and back off of recruiting for the last two years, leaving the team depleted. Muschamp seems to be recruiting very well.

Not sure where your limited budget comment comes from.
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We thought he hired an assistant coach because he couldn't afford a head coach?
 
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lawgator1 said:
$2.75 million a year is not an assistant coach salary.

What does Dooley make (not including Waffle House discount) ?
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He makes that much? Really? I am surprised. Foley overpaid bad for that.

I saw a couple of months ago where you guys hired a new OC for about half what we are paying our OC. Thought you were out of money or something.
 
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