Urban Myth Countdown

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With only 63 days until the Tennessee Vols expose the "Urban Myth" in Gainesville, I thought it would be a funny thing to countdown the days, and expose some other urban myths along the way.

Everyday, I will post a new urban myth, and countdown the days until September 17th.

Here we go.....

Future Cuban revolutionary leader Fidel Castro was once given a tryout by the Washington Senators baseball team.

[Collected on the Internet, 2003]

David Crow, who recently visited Stanford and enlightened me about Mexico, where he resides, has an explanation for Cuba's anti-Americanism. Fidel, an outstanding left-handed pitcher, tried out for the Washington Senators in the late 40's but was rejected.


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[Morgan & Tucker, 1984]

Another often-told story about Castro very nearly puts him in training camp for the New York Yankees. According to this rumor, Castro was scouted as a possible pitcher by several major league baseball teams while he was a college player in Havana. Many teams were actively scouting in Cuba during the forties, and if Castro so much as pitched a game he might have been noticed by one of them.

Origins: "What if?" alternative history scenarios are a favorite topic of conjecture for everyone from barroom philosophers to professional historians. How different might our world be today if a prominent historical figure had never been born, had died before achieving prominence, or had been prevented from dying early? How much of what we know might be changed if we could go back in time and alter the outcome of some key event? That we cannot establish definitive answers for these questions doesn't matter — the challenge and the fun are in the speculation.

One of the quirkier historical "What if?" scenarios involves the legend that Cuban leader Fidel Castro was once given a tryout (and rejected) by an American major league baseball team (usually specified as either the Washington Senators or the New York Yankees). Consider what might have turned out differently had Fidel taken up a career in professional baseball rather than politics: no revolution overthrowing the Batista regime, no establishment of a Soviet-aligned government in Cuba, and thus no Bay of Pigs or Cuban Missile Crisis — watershed events in the history of the Cold War. Would the results of this alternate scenario have been a profound difference in the course of world events or merely a historical footnote of minor global significance?

Even if one opts for the "historical footnote" interpretation, the Castro legend is still appealing because of its unconventionality. Many alternative history scenarios are based upon a consideration of what might have happened if an influential historical figure not died — or been prevented from dying — while still in his prime (e.g., "What if Kennedy hadn't been assassinated?", "What if one of the attempts to kill Hitler in 1939 or 1944 had succeeded?", "What if Stonewall Jackson hadn't been mortally wounded at battle of Chancellorsville?"), but the key element of the Castro legend is its presentation of an unfinished political career interrupted not by a premature death, but by a love for sports. Aside from offering intriguing possibilities for historical speculation, this legend has obvious appeal to Americans as a tale denigrating Castro (or Communism in general) through its ironic implication that a committed socialist (and later Marxist) could easily have been derailed from his revolutionary path by the frivolous allure of being paid by capitalists to throw a little white ball around a baseball field — and that he failed in the endeavor because his skills simply weren't up to snuff.

Although this legend has an aura of plausibility to Americans in that baseball has long flourished in Cuba (only the Dominican Republic has supplied more foreign-born players to the North American-based major leagues) and Castro has been a very visible supporter of (and pseudo-participant in) the sport, it is neither true nor credible, as Cubans have always been aware. Castro never had a tryout with a major-league baseball team, never played the sport professionally, and didn't come close to possessing skills which would attract the interest of a big-league team.

This tale includes a few other folkloric elements as well. The archly humorous detail of Castro's having a tryout with the Washington Senators (making him a 'Senator' in America's capital city) or the New York Yankees (installing him as a 'Yankee' in the U.S.A.'s largest metropolis) is great bit of irony. On the more serious side, the example quoted at the head of this page reflects a common theme of trivializing an enemy by presenting its leadership as driven by a superficial, ridiculously-motivated hatred. Just as rumor has ascribed Hitler's anti-Semitism to his anger over having been denied admission to art school by a Jewish professor who flunked him on the entrance examination, and Osama bin Laden's loathing of the U.S. to his embarrassment over an American girl's poking fun at the size of his member, so Castro's anti-Americanism has been attributed to nothing more than his bitter disappointment over failing a baseball tryout. We need not seek to understand the trivial, so such rumors serve to relieve us of the obligation of considering more complex social and political issues.

63 Days Until "The Urban Myth" is exposed in Gainesville!
 
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I keep telling and telling you guys, but you dont listen. The Gators will be ready to play, but for some reason you dont believe me. I guess we'll just have to wait until 9/17. Cant get here soon enough.
 
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Originally posted by GatorVille@Jul 16, 2005 1:08 PM
I keep telling and telling you guys, but you dont listen.  The Gators will be ready to play, but for some reason you dont believe me.  I guess we'll just have to wait until 9/17.  Cant get here soon enough.
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They better be!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
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I can't wait to travel down to our home away from home. ;)
 
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I cant really say anything to you guys. Youve had our #, though your W's could have gone either way, theyre still W's. I cantwait for UF/UT, you guys are in for a BIG suprise:)
 
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Myself wonder if, Urban will pull out the Myth against UT?
Defensive match-ups, shouldnt help his Offensive option attack.

Would it be possible? He gathers his troops and comes out playing head to head, smash mouth football? Establish the ground game with some passing first?

Im not sure if i was a Gator, Id want the ball flying around in the backfield against the speed and nasty of the UT Defensive front and LB's?
 
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Our defense is going to be unreal. Our LB's are going to have a field day in the Swamp. I would be highly concerned Gatorville. I know you are all excited and all about your new coach, and rightly so. Anyone would be exciting compared to Zook. Keep in mind you have not even played one down under this new savior of yours so while I understand your optimism, I wouldn't go betting the farm on the Gators quite yet.
 
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Jul 16, 2005 7:21 PM
Our defense is going to be unreal. Our LB's are going to have a field day in the Swamp. I would be highly concerned Gatorville. I know you are all excited and all about your new coach, and rightly so. Anyone would be exciting compared to Zook. Keep in mind you have not even played one down under this new savior of yours so while I understand your optimism, I wouldn't go betting the farm on the Gators quite yet.
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Freaky I've been reading from Vol posters all over the net about how great the UT D will be. UF D had the same avg per rush as the "Great" UT D had, also the UF D gave up less total yds passing and less total yds altogether. Maybe the UF D should get a lil more credit or the UT D isn't as good as the articles are writing about??
 
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Originally posted by NCGatorBait@Jul 16, 2005 5:41 PM
Freaky I've been reading from Vol posters all over the net about how great the UT D will be. UF D had the same avg per rush as the "Great" UT D had, also the UF D gave up less total yds passing and less total yds altogether. Maybe the UF D should get a lil more credit or the UT D isn't as good as the articles are writing about??
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And oh yeah, were also had the SEC's #1 O. Were no pushover like you guys make us out to be. I dont see where UT is getting all this were gonna stomp you guys. When was the last time UT ever "blew out UF", a while ago. Weve been very close in recent years, and return something like 18 or 19 starters on a very tallented team. Im ready, and I know the UF team will be. Theyll be ready to play and will execute unlike last season. Im not saying well win (even though i think we will) but we will be a well coached, ready to play football team. Just thinking about the game gets me excited. I cant wait. Its gonna be a great game. Very close the entire time IMO. It could come down to a FG again. Its gonna be a great game.
 
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Close in recent years?

We went down to the Swamp in 2003, and we won by 14.

Anytime you let someone come in your home, and beat you by two touchdowns or more, you have been OWNED, "could have gone either way" and "played them close" did NOT happen.
 
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Originally posted by NCGatorBait@Jul 16, 2005 7:41 PM
Freaky I've been reading from Vol posters all over the net about how great the UT D will be. UF D had the same avg per rush as the "Great" UT D had, also the UF D gave up less total yds passing and less total yds altogether. Maybe the UF D should get a lil more credit or the UT D isn't as good as the articles are writing about??
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RETURNING DL LETTERMEN
Jason Hall, Sr., 3L
Parys Haralson, Sr., 3L
Xavier Mitchell, So., 1L
Antonio Reynolds, So., 1L

RETURNING DT LETTERMEN
Justin Harrell, Jr., 2L
Jesse Mahelona, Sr., 1L
Turk McBride, Jr., 2L

RETURNING LB LETTERMEN
Daniel Brooks, Jr., 2L
Omar Gaither, Sr., 3L
Ryan Karl, So., 1L
Jason Mitchell, Sr., 3L
Marvin Mitchell, Jr., 2L
Jon Poe, Sr., 2L
Kevin Simon, Sr., 2L
James Turner, So., 1L

RETURNING CB LETTERMEN
Jason Allen, Sr., 3L
Roshuan Fellows, So., 1L
Antonio Gaines, So., 1L
Inquoris Johnson, So., 1L
Jonathan Wade, Jr., 2L

RETURNING DS LETTERMEN
Corey Campbell, Jr., 2L
Ben Greene, So., 1L
Jonathan Hefney, So., 1L
Jarod Parrish, Jr., 2L
Antwan Stewart, Jr., 1L
Ellix Wilson, So., 1L

Those players are no worse than 2-1 against the Gators. With 2 wins in a row. Those that are Juniors or older, have tasted victory at the Swamp and will do so again.
 
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NC, I am not comparing last years defenses, I am comparing this years. I don't know who the Gators lost or added so I can't comment. But I can tell you that I think this D will be better. We will be better in the secondary with more experience, Simon will hopefully finally be 100% at LB. Last year was Gaither's first year at LB so he should be better. Allen will be back at his natural position of CB. Mahelona had no experience in our system last year so he should be improved with a year under his belt. You get my drift. You will have to fill me on the Gators and if you think their D will be better.

Gatorville, you seem to be going around putting words in everyone's mouth. I for one didn't say it would be a blowout. I am sure it will be a pretty good game. But I don't know where YOU guys have all this confidence in a coach that hasn't won a game at UF yet. YOU are very confident for a team that is coming off three straight five loss seasons. YOU are very optimistic about a team that could not win before Spurrier and has not proven that they can win after Spurrier.

Now, with that said, I am sure the Gators have the talent to have a good season but only time will tell if they have the coaching and experience to win a big game. This class of Gators has never experienced the pressure of playing big time SEC football with championships on the line late in the year.
 
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Jul 16, 2005 10:40 PM
This class of Gators has never experienced the pressure of playing big time SEC football with championships on the line late in the year.
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Actually they did as freshman when the Big 3 tied for the East and UGA had the highest BCS ranking and was ranked 3 spots ahead of UF even thought UF had beaten them to go to Atlanta.
 
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You are right, I forgot about that one. Well, they probably didn't get much PT. ;)
 
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Originally posted by vol_freak@Jul 16, 2005 8:40 PM


Gatorville, you seem to be going around putting words in everyone's mouth. I for one didn't say it would be a blowout. I am sure it will be a pretty good game. But I don't know where YOU guys have all this confidence in a coach that hasn't won a game at UF yet. YOU are very confident for a team that is coming off three straight five loss seasons. YOU are very optimistic about a team that could not win before Spurrier and has not proven that they can win after Spurrier.

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Im not putting words in anyones mouth. I think we should have confidence in a coach that hasnt lost a game in 2 years and won the fiesta bowl last year. I am confident in a team that lost 5 games each of the past 3 seasons. All of those teams were pourly coached, that will changed. All of those teams were very tallented but young, that has changed. UF was very good before SOS. I dont know why everyone thinks that we sucked. We were a solid team, and I believe we won some rundown poll that claimed us NTL champs. It was a very minor poll however, IIRC. So please, look at things from outside your orange and white glasses- UF will be good. Noone here can deny were very tallented, and we return almost everyone. UT MIGHT win, but UF MIGHT aswell, it seems to me that all of you are marking UF down as a W, and im simply telling you were no pushover.
 
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Originally posted by GatorVille@Jul 16, 2005 11:22 PM
Im not putting words in anyones mouth.  I think we should have confidence in a coach that hasnt lost a game in 2 years and won the fiesta bowl last year.  I am confident in a team that lost 5 games each of the past 3 seasons.  All of those teams were pourly coached, that will changed.  All of those teams were very tallented but young, that has changed.  UF was very good before SOS.  I dont know why everyone thinks that we sucked.  We were a solid team, and I believe we won some rundown poll that claimed us NTL champs.  It was a very minor poll however, IIRC.  So please, look at things from outside your orange and white glasses- UF will be good.  Noone here can deny were very tallented, and we return almost  everyone.  UT MIGHT win, but UF MIGHT aswell, it seems to me that all of you are marking UF down as a W, and im simply telling you were no pushover.
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I don't see anywhere in this thread the words blowout or pushover. I think it will be a good game but I am confident. You keep using words like pushover and blowout and I don't see anyone that said that in this thread.

You guys ARE talented, I said that in my post. I think we agree except you think we are overconfident in our team and we think you are overconfident in yours since you have been down recently and you have a new coach. You are the one that needs to not look through your orange (and blue?) colored glasses. We are not the one with a new coach and three straight five loss seasons. That is ALL I am saying. Anything is possible. The Gators could run the table and go undefeated. It's just not probable. Face it, on the surface Tennessee should have a better team than the Gators... at least that's what the experts say. Doesn't mean it will happen. Thats why they play the games.
 
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We'll see. UT is on paper the better team, but some high ranked teams blunder. Youre exactly right, thats why they play the game. Both teams are very good, and it will be an excellent game. Cant wait.
 
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I am excited too, although we have a really tough schedule so we have what seems like a ton of big games.
 
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I'm marking them down as a win because Coach Urban Myth will be exposed. Speaking of, it's 11:59 on the east coast, which means its time for..........
 

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