Urban Myth Countdown

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#54
You might also want to look at those darn NCAA probation records. It's common knowledge that Charlie Pell was buying players wholesale in the early to mid 80s.

Florida went on probation and proceeded to go through several years of losing 5 games per year. Can you imagine if that happened today??

Wait a minute . . . that IS happening today. :lol:
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Jul 21, 2005 9:38 PM
http://www.cfbdatawarehouse.com/data/div_i...arly_totals.php

Please look at 1906, through say... 1982

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Claim: An early experiment in subliminal advertising at a movie theater sunstantially increased sales of popcorn and Coke.

Status: False.

Origins: Public
awareness of what we now term "subliminal advertising" began with the 1957 publication of Vance Packard's book, The Hidden Persuaders. Although Packard did not use the term "subliminal advertising," he did describe many of the new "motivational research" marketing techniques being employed to sell products in the burgeoning post-war American market. Advertisements that focused on consumers' hopes, fears, guilt, and sexuality were designed to persuade them to buy products they'd never realized they needed. Marketers who could reach into the hearts and minds of American consumers soon found consumers' wallets to be within easy grasp as well.

It was James Vicary who coined the term "subliminal advertising." Vicary had conducted a variety of unusual studies of female shopping habits, discovering (among other things) that women's eye-blink rates dropped significantly in supermarkets, that "psychological spring" lasts more than twice as long as "psychological winter," and that "the experience of a woman baking a cake could be likened to a woman giving birth." Vicary's studies were largely forgettable, save for one experiment he conducted at a Ft. Lee, New Jersey movie theater during the summer of 1957. Vicary placed a tachistoscope in the theater's projection booth, and all throughout the playing of the film Picnic, he flashed a couple of different messages on the screen every five seconds. The messages each displayed for only 1/3000th of a second at a time, far below the viewers' threshold of conscious perceptibility. The result of displaying these imperceptible suggestions -- "Drink Coca-Cola" and "Hungry? Eat Popcorn" -- was an amazing 18.1% increase in Coca-Cola sales, and a whopping 57.8% jump in popcorn purchases. Thus was demonstrated the awesome power of "subliminal advertising" to coerce unwary buyers into making purchases they would not otherwise have considered.

Or so goes the legend that has retained its potency for more than forty years. So potent a legend, in fact, that the Federal Communications Commission banned "subliminal advertising" from radio and television airwaves in 1974, despite that fact that no studies have ever shown it to be effective, and even though its alleged efficacy was based on a fraud.

You see, Vicary lied about the results of his experiment. When he was challenged to repeat the test by the president of the Psychological Corporation, Dr. Henry Link, Vicary's duplication of his original experiment produced no significant increase in popcorn or Coca-Cola sales. Eventually Vicary confessed that he had falsified the data from his first experiments, and some critics have since expressed doubts that he actually conducted his infamous Ft. Lee experiment at all.

As usual, the media (and thereby the public) paid attention only to the sensational original story, and the scant coverage given to Vicary's later confession was ignored or quickly forgotten. Radio and television stations began airing subliminal commercials, leading to two congressional bills to ban the practice being introduced in 1958 and 1959 (both of which died before being voted upon). In 1973, Dr. Wilson B. Key picked up where Vicary left off, publishing Subliminal Seduction, an indictment of modern advertisements filled with hidden messages and secret symbols -- messages and symbols that only Dr. Key could discern (including the notorious example of the word "S-E-X" spelled out in the ice cubes pictured in a liquor advertisement). The old "subliminal advertising" controversy was stirred up again by Dr. Key's book, leading to the 24 January 1974 announcement by the FCC that subliminal techniques, "whether effective or not," were "contrary to the public interest," and that any station employing them risked losing its broadcast license.

For neither the first nor the last time, a great deal of time and money and effort was expended on "protecting" the public from something that posed no danger to them. As numerous studies over the last few decades have demonstrated, subliminal advertising doesn't work; in fact, it never worked, and the whole premise was based on a lie from the very beginning. James Vicary's legacy was to ensure that a great many people will never be convinced otherwise, however.

Sightings: The "subliminal cut spurs popcorn sales" is explicitly mentioned in a 1973 Columbo movie ("Double Exposure"), and the acceptance of its principle as fact forms the basis of the episode.

57 Days Until Tennessee Exposes The Urban Myth!
 
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Originally posted by milohimself@Jul 21, 2005 5:57 PM
Jeeze you guys... Saying Florida was that good before Spurrier is a big stretch, and saying Rick Clausen is better than Chris Leak is equally as big of a stretch. Alright?
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Yup...I'll go with that as well!
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Originally posted by TBALLVOL@Jul 19, 2005 11:32 AM
I can't believe no one shares my confidence in predicting that TN will blowout FLA by two TD's and Leak will not finish the game. Urb and the Gators have to be the most hyped team in NCAA history. 6 wins will be stretching it for the IMPERSONURBANGATOR!
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I do! I do!

Meyer will be the biggest bust in the SEC since Gerry DiNardo.
 
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Wuz it just three or four years ago that he was a receivers coach for a mediocre ND team...and don't tell me ND could not have had him if they really wanted him...He will be back coaching in Division two before it's all over. Charlie Strong will be your next head coach and he probably should be now.
 
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Originally posted by TBALLVOL@Jul 22, 2005 1:38 PM
Charlie Strong will be your next head coach and he probably should be now.
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You obviously didn't watch the bowl game last yr that Strong coached. He looked like a deer in the headlights..he's over rated and should not be a head coach anywhere.
 
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You can't judge Charlie in that situation. It was not his team and it was just one game. You guys just want to live in hyper fantasy and make Urb into a Legend before he has even coached in an SEC game. Spurrier is as close as Florida will come to having a Legend. Foley blew it when he wouldn't take SOS back and now the Ole Ball Coach is going to whip Florida like a red-headed step-child...maybe even this year...He will know the Charlie Strong defense better than anyone in the SEC.
 
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Wow...where to begin..

You can't judge Charlie in that situation. It was not his team and it was just one game.


Well if you are mentioning him for the head coach what other way would you judge him?? Being the head coach..thats how and he didn't have the team ready at all.

As far as it not being his team...he has coached and recruited these kids the whole time they've been in college..not sure how that wouldn't make it his teamn.



You guys just want to live in hyper fantasy and make Urb into a Legend before he has even coached in an SEC game


Dont lump me in with all fans of any team..if you've ever read my posts you will know I never follow the main stream of anything. I'm like most sitting back curious to see how it turns out...I do think he'll be successful..but time will tell

Foley blew it when he wouldn't take SOS back


Maybe, maybe not...While at first I was excited at the thought of him possibly coming back...then realized he'd prolly only coach 5 or 6 yrs tops so I was happy with the hiring of a young up and coming coach of the year.

He will know the Charlie Strong defense better than anyone in the SEC.


I'm still waiting on that aggressive D he used to employ at SC. Hopefully we'll see some this yr instead of those 4th Qtr fades!
 
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Originally posted by VolFantotheBone@Jul 21, 2005 9:41 PM
Darn, beat to the punch...  Great web site ain't it Milo!

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I never said they werent bad for a long time...i said they were good before steves era....face it, i was right...they were good before steve, thats what i said......AND leak is better then clausen.....nice try though :clap:
 
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UF was very good before SOS.



No you said they were "very" good. See how that adverb slips in there? :blink:

Also, I noticed you even copied my reply about the nice try. Come up with something original will ya. Like "Rick Clausen is better than C. Leak." That was original... This topic has become old. Move on.
 
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Wow how you beat around the bush...I call a top 10 finish very good. And oh im sorry, volfantothebone said it so noone else can ever say it again! My bad.
 
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Claim: A fun-loving college student awoke after a wild party to find both his kidneys had been stolen by organ thieves. He now spends his days attached to a machine that keeps him alive until a donor match can be found.

Origins: The "college student" version of the increasingly-popular organ theft canard surfaced on the Internet in May 1996. It was no more true than any other version of the tale, yet that didn't slow its spread.

What follows is scarelore at its finest. It takes no imagination whatsoever for those away from home for the first time in their lives to picture themselves following a pretty girl to a party and having this happen to them:


56 Days Until Tennessee Exposes Florida's Urban Myth!
 
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Well come on GatorVille, I don't think that anyone will quote me on the Rick Clausen being better than Chris Leak thing (other than you :D ). I have to protect the usable material B) Hopefully no hard feelings.
 
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Im sure they wont. I also see you changed your sig. Im glad you take pride in the fact that UF went 55% over 83 years.
 
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Legend: Drug runner evades detection by driving a fast black car at night while wearing night vision goggles.

Example: [Collected on the Internet, 1993]

A friend of my father's was a cop in Nevada, and he was assigned the graveyard shift, posted outside of town on a little used section of road, given a radar gun and ordered to stay put and to pull motorists over for speeding. One night, while the officer waits by the side of the road, the radar gun starts screaming for no apparent reason at all, registering about 140. The officer, who was sleepy anyway, attributes this to a faulty gun, and ignores the incident.

A week later the same thing happens again, on the same stretch of road, at about the same time at night. This time, however, the gun registers 145, and the officer pays more attention. Later, after his shift is over, he has the gun checked out for problems, and is told it is operating perfectly. A week later, same road, same time, the gun goes off. By now the police officer is confused, and angry.

The next week he has men stationed at a road block a few miles down from the spot where he has been positioned. Like clockwork, the radar gun goes off, and he alerts his friends to get ready for whatever is racing down the highway.

At the road block is stopped a black Lamborghini, with an engine iced and baffled for silent running. The driver is a drug mule, hauling a load and staying on the backroads, and less frequently monitored highways. The car itself is running without headlights, while the driver wears night vision goggles.



Variations:
Though the car is always black, its make varies from telling to telling. Lamborghinis are especially popular in this tale, but Maseratis, Ferraris, Jaguars, and Porsches turn up too. (Indeed, any expensive car that is presumed to be fast can be shoehorned into this legend.)

This story has been told as a true and local occurrence in Texas, Pennsylvania, California, Kentucky, Nevada, New Jersey, and Florida. Sometimes additional details are given which specify the route: "from New Orleans to Chicago," "between Erie and Pittsburgh," and "from his office in Henderson, KY to his home in Nashville."

Usually the driver is described as a drug runner, but non-criminals (rich men who own fast cars) have also been placed behind the wheel.

Typical to such stories, often both the speed the miscreant was going ("200 m.p.h.," "140 m.p.h.") and the amount and type of drugs confiscated ("20 lbs. of cocaine") are specified.

One (possibly Cannonball Run-influenced) version attributes the stealth car's presence on the highway to "a cross-continental race on public roads, $1000 per entrant, winner take all."
Origins: This legend's likely origin is the 1981 film Cannonball Run, wherein the Japanese entrant in a no-holds-barred cross-country road race makes use of lights-out driving, a quieted motor, and night vision goggles to evade police. One scene even has him blowing past a radar trap and the cops there deciding not to pursue him.

My earliest sighting of this tale being told as a true story comes from around that time from a fellow who says he heard it on the playground while in elementary school. Since then it's been told by any number of folks, almost without exception male.

Plot snippets from movies can become urban legends, provided their basic premises are appealing enough and something in them resonates with current societal fears or wishes. The 'stealth car' qualifies on every level.

In one sense, the story is about evil drug dealers who can afford fantastic cars thanks to their ill-gotten gains and are again putting the public at risk, this time by driving like invisible maniacs in the night. That the police eventually work out what's going on and slap the irons on these baddies confirms our need to believe law enforcement is equal to the task of taking on the drug trade and overcoming it. In this story, the monied conscienceless drug king proves no match for the honest cop who starts out befuddled and overmatched but ends up victorious.

In another sense, the tale is the ultimate automotive 'wish fulfillment' legend which leaves folks drooling over the sugarplum of an impossibly fast car invisible to the gendarmes. Speed limits are all well and good, provided they're enforced on everyone else; each of us secretly longs for the unfettered freedom to do whatever we like on the open road, including setting new land speed records, if that's what takes our fancy. At least in the realm of imagination, safety and concern for others ranks well behind the desire to have the baddest car in town, the jalopy the cops can never touch.

Luckily (considering the state of human nature), the stealth car of legend is not also one of reality. Though fast cars exist, they can't be rendered invisible to all our senses and detection devices with a slap of black paint and the extinguishment of their lights. Even if the dream machine were made harder to see and its engine muffled, the noise it made as it passed would still be audible. More telling, the night vision goggles the driver donned would put him at risk of crashing and burning in very short order, especially if he were cruising the nation's highways at incredible speeds.

Night vision goggles may seem to turn night into day (a day rendered in green, anyway), but they do so at the expense of depth perception. Though perfectly serviceable if the wearer is standing still or travelling at a controlled speed, NVGs produce a limited depth of field quite dangerous to someone trying to make sense of a rapidly changing landscape, where so much as one missed detail can prove fatal. Navigation is further complicated by rain, snow, and fog, all of which cut down the NVG's effectiveness. Light emitted from a car's instrument panel would also adversely impact the clarity of images picked up by the goggles.

When used on public highways at any speed, NVGs represent accidents just waiting to happen. Oncoming headlights would cause the operator to be unable to see other objects in the field of view, and just one car coming from the opposite direction could render the NVG-wearer temporarily blind. While one might keep a car on the road during such an interlude at 30 m.p.h., at 200 m.p.h. the need for any sudden maneuver could send the car off the road and into a tree in the blink of an (unseeing) eye. (And if other cars on the road can't see you, you're in danger of their suddenly cutting you off or running into you from behind).

The legend's basic premise -- than any random person can don a pair of night vision goggles, fire up the stealth car, and go rocketing around the country after dark -- fails the credibility test once the limitations of night vision technology are considered. A driver fresh out of the military and trained in this type of driving might be able to maintain control of a car travelling at 35 m.p.h. on a clear night, but even he is likely to be sent off the road into the ditch by the lights of oncoming traffic. As for someone untrained in the use of NVGs, he's not likely to make it out of the driveway without taking a hedge or two with him.

55 Days Until Gatorville Realizes The Urban Myth Has Been Exposed!
 
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Great read in the NY times today on the players behavior modification at UF this offseason.

By PETE THAMEL
Published: July 24, 2005
GAINESVILLE, Fla., July 23 - When explaining the culture change at the University of Florida under its new football coach, Urban Meyer, Jarvis Herring happily points to himself as Exhibit A.

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In his six months at Florida, Urban Meyer has invoked a zero-tolerance disciplinary policy. Last year, at least seven players had legal problems.
Last year, Herring said, he and some of his teammates often started drinking alcohol in the morning on summer days and did not stop until well into the night. Or, as Herring said with a smile, until there was no more to drink.

Herring said he and his teammates never feared retribution, as he showed last May when he was arrested after a fight outside the Palace, a local nightclub.

"I didn't think all of this stuff mattered at first, like how you live your life off the field," Herring said. "I thought if you showed up on Saturday and you were an athlete, you were ready to play."

But in the six months since Meyer's hiring, Herring's transformation from trouble maker to trouble stopper has been indicative of the change in Gainesville under Meyer.

Herring said Meyer came to him and veteran teammates on Fridays and said, "This weekend is on you." The message was clear: If anyone got in trouble, so would Herring.

So even if he's just watching television with his girlfriend on a Saturday night, Herring peels himself off the couch to troll Gainesville's hot spots.

"I've got to go to the club and make sure my boys don't get in trouble," Herring said. "I know if they get in any trouble, everything is on my hands."

Last year under Coach Ron Zook, at least seven Florida players, including Herring, had legal problems. So far under Meyer, the number is zero.

"He has zero tolerance for misbehavior," Florida's athletic director, Jeremy Foley, said. "I have seen what those situations can do to a team and how they can impact your season, and that's been a positive factor as we head into a new season with a new coach."

While Meyer knocks on his desk so as to not jinx himself, some Southeastern Conference rivals are enduring off-seasons of arrests and suspensions.

Three Georgia players will be suspended for their opener because of arrests, and another was thrown off the team after a DUI charge. South Carolina kicked its leading rusher and a top defensive lineman off the team because of off-field issues.

To keep players out of trouble, Meyer relies on a layered system of discipline and academics inspired by John Wooden. It is predicated on peer pressure, a strong investment of assistant coaches in players' lives and a reward system that allows Meyer to essentially spoil the players he likes.

Meyer read that Wooden had a hard time early in his career favoring players, something Meyer could relate to. "There's certain players that I love and there's other ones I can't stand," he said. "If you're saying that's not true, you're not being honest. I love the guys who go to class, I love the guys who live right and I love the guys who are great football players."

To the players that fall in all those categories, Meyer lavishes them with gear and praise. Forty-eight players belong to Meyer's Champions Club. Membership is based on class attendance, on-field effort and off-field behavior.

Those in the Champions Club receive special Gators gear and are treated to a banquet. Those not in the Champions Club are fed scraps at the same banquet and do not get the gear. Herring said the gray shorts with pockets were a must-have this summer.

"A lot of guys will be looking for that gear and don't feel they have enough gear," Herring said. "It's something that you cherish."

The Florida coaches even make academics competitive, breaking down the players into three categories: scarlet, red and gold. The scarlet players are considered high risk and have all their classes checked. The red players are watched closely. The gold players do not have any classes checked and are not required to attend study tables.

Florida's offensive coordinator, Dan Mullen, grabs a blue binder off a shelf in his office to show just how closely Florida tracks its players. Mullen doubles as the quarterbacks coach, which means he's responsible for all phases of the quarterbacks' lives.

Inside the binder are their class schedules, syllabuses and individualized calendars with dates of every test and quiz.

Meyer said it was the coaches' responsibility to know their players' cellphone numbers by heart, their girlfriends' names and to stay in contact with their families.

For the players on the team that are considered the biggest risks, Meyer checks in with them every Friday and Saturday at 7 p.m. or 8 p.m. to make sure they have good intentions planned for that night.

The theory is simple. When the coaches show they care, the players feel obliged to do things right.

"I don't know what kind of Florida Gator team you're going to see," Herring said. "But it's going to be crazy. No one is in trouble. Everyone is ready to go."

 

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