US strike kills two American al Qaeda leaders

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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
Scary. Where exactly do you draw the line.
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Good question. Maybe if the line was blurred a little more a few years ago, 9/11 doesn't happen. American freedoms allowed our enemies to plot and kill on our turf. That event changed things forever.
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I dont see how you guys are talking about a free reign on American citizens concern based off the killing of a leader of enemy #1 overseas. And yes, if you are in knoxville plotting to blow up Neyland, you need to be taken out. No questions asked. Regardless of your constitutional right.
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pl3 said:
Good question. Maybe if the line was blurred a little more a few years ago, 9/11 doesn't happen. American freedoms allowed our enemies to plot and kill on our turf. That event changed things forever.
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I offer this quote to you.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
 
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DEFENDTHISHOUSE said:
I offer this quote to you.

Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Ben Franklin
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I would have liked to hear what Ben Franklin would have said if he had seen terrorists fly planes into the twin towers and kill thousands of Americans.

Anyway, I'm not saying I'm right. It's just my opinion. One of which I am free to speak and am in no fear of Obama taking away from me.
 
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pl3 said:
I would have liked to hear what Ben Franklin would have said if he had seen terrorists fly planes into the twin towers and kill thousands of Americans.

Anyway, I'm not saying I'm right. It's just my opinion. One of which I am free to speak and am in no fear of Obama taking away from me.
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Why aren't you afraid of it being taken? Once you condone and approve of anyone losing their constitutional rights, then you are basically bending over and asking to have yours taken too. Your only hope is the hope that they will use lubricant.
 
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I'm shocked at the hypocrisy of the left. Childishly shouting over the Patriot Act, while essentially ignoring that we targeted and killed an American citizen without the slightest hint of due process.
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm shocked at the hypocrisy of the left. Childishly shouting over the Patriot Act, while essentially ignoring that we targeted and killed an American citizen without the slightest hint of due process.
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+1
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm shocked at the hypocrisy of the left. Childishly shouting over the Patriot Act, while essentially ignoring that we targeted and killed an American citizen without the slightest hint of due process.
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I feel raped
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RespectTradition said:
Why aren't you afraid of it being taken? Once you condone and approve of anyone losing their constitutional rights, then you are basically bending over and asking to have yours taken too. Your only hope is the hope that they will use lubricant.
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So what if this guy killed 5000 today in nyc because we were waiting on due process instead of burying him in the ground, and your family was killed? Would you be asking for due process? Or would you be outraged that we had him in sights, knew a danger level, but had to wait on paperwork, and we lost the opportunity.
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pl3 said:
So what if this guy killed 5000 today in nyc because we were waiting on due process instead of burying him in the ground, and your family was killed? Would you be asking for due process? Or would you be outraged that we had him in sights, knew a danger level, but had to wait on paperwork, and we lost the opportunity.
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emotional appeal = bad logic

good logic is dispassionate

I don't believe in situational ethics. If something is wrong, it is wrong. Did this guy ever kill anyone? Ever? Was he going to? How do you know? Do you believe Obama when he talks about how many jobs he saved with the stimulus? Why do you believe him when he says, trust me, this guy is dangerous and we gotta take him out? Did this guy advocate some bad things? Yes. Does one deserve to die for that? Not in my book, but maybe in yours. Did this guy ever harm anyone? You don't know, that is why we have trials and evidence. We don't just take the presidents word for it. Did you ever doubt something Bush said or some policy he advocated? What about Obama? Why did you doubt them? They are privy to information you don't have and their judgment is beyond question. Obviously this is true if you are willing to let them just decide to execute an american citizen.
 
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Obama didn't randomly walk in American citizens home and kill him, which is what you are making it sound to be.
And acting like that is his next step is dramatic.
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Was reading CNN article and comments from members if the American's former mosque, condemning what he had done and saying it did not represent them or their beliefs.

I do not understand as gsvol, Neocon, and sjt have repeatedly assured us that all Muslims are happy when Islamic terrorists strike.
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No doubt it was shot down, doesnt diminish the story of the passengers
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pl3 said:
Obama didn't randomly walk in American citizens home and kill him, which is what you are making it sound to be.
And acting like that is his next step is dramatic.
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What is the difference between walking into someone's house and shooting him in the head and sending a computer guided bomb through his roof? Besides the collateral damage, that is.
 
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I'm completely against this kind of anonymous killing from the sky, but the citizenship argument seems kind of weak.

Does the guy need to send some sort signed, notarized document to the State Dept. to officially get off the good list? Taking up arms against the country would have to at least cloud any sort of citizenship claims the guy might have had.. Seems to me.
 
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A little old but it's a Sunday and looking back I found this which I found a little interesting..Obama has ordered a dramatic increase in the pace of CIA drone-launched missile strikes into Pakistan in an effort to kill al-Qaeda and Taliban members in the ungoverned tribal areas along the Afghan border. There have been more such strikes in the first year of Obama's administration than in the last three years under President George W. Bush, according to a military officer who tracks the attacks.

U.S. military teams, intelligence deeply involved in aiding Yemen on strikes
 
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myrobbins7 said:
A little old but it's a Sunday and looking back I found this which I found a little interesting..Obama has ordered a dramatic increase in the pace of CIA drone-launched missile strikes into Pakistan in an effort to kill al-Qaeda and Taliban members in the ungoverned tribal areas along the Afghan border. There have been more such strikes in the first year of Obama's administration than in the last three years under President George W. Bush, according to a military officer who tracks the attacks.

U.S. military teams, intelligence deeply involved in aiding Yemen on strikes
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good for him!
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