USA Today Poll finds 58% of Republicans believe Capitol Riot was organized by Antifa

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Weezer said:
Has anyone seriously suggested burning down a city? I don't follow the PF as closely as I used to, so if it's happened, I haven't seen it.
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We've got people on here who say it pretty regularly. Probably about as seriously as the "i hope you get cancer" guy.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
What the hell is up with this stupid ass question to the post you replied to?

Damn the whataboutism is strong in you
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The poster i replied to seemed to be okay with it our discussion. Why don't you go carry the water/whataboutism/put words in people's mouths/make up a name/emoji face/obsess over EL's gender in a conservation you're involved in?
 
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clarksvol00 said:
The poster i replied to seemed to be okay with it our discussion. Why don't you go carry the water/whataboutism/put words in people's mouths/make up a name/emoji face/obsess over EL's gender in a conservation you're involved in?
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LMFAO.

Ok I’ve got something much more important to ask you.

I’ve been trying to reach you about your automobile warranty.

And no he did not “seem to be ok” with it that’s your stupid excuse for asking a dumbass question.
 
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NorthDallas40 said:
No. An example of a question just as relevant as the stupid **** you asked. And no you weren’t having a discussion the post I quoted was YOUR first question to him out of the blue on it. Run along now.
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Let him deal with it, Weezer may understand. I can't help it if you don't. Run along now and send some emojis and pretend that makes an argument for you.
 
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Ttucke11 said:
To do what they saw happen all summer and hear their voices heard. Express their frustrations. You think they legitimately thought that the couple thousand, 99% unarmed, had the intentions of overthrowing the United States government? Organized enough to hold control? That’s absolutely laughable.
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AM64 said:
No they are staged political drama ... tales

"Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,

Signifying nothing"



You know a successful coup requires the control of the military and law enforcement. Without that, you have nothing ... at best a standoff that would end as well as "Butch and Sundance". Most (perhaps all successful coups) are carried out by the country's military. Calling this a "coup" or "insurrection" is a gross case of overcharging in your neck of the woods.
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Neither of these makes a rational argument that this was not a coup. You’re both relying on the same failed logic: that because the coup was delusional and doomed to fail, it couldn’t have been a coup.

If we had to wait for a well-planned or successful coup to call a thing a coup, that’d be pretty ****ing stupid. The intent to defy the established process for the transfer of power and acts in furtherance of that intent are what matter.

The bottom line re: their intent is that they were there to force Mike Pence or congress to overturn the results of the election, ignore the established process for transfer of power, and maintain Donald Trump as the unelected “president.” They came prepared, they fought the police, they broke in they acted in furtherance of that intent.

That’s a coup by any sensible definition of the word. Case closed.

Whether they had a plan to maintain power going forward is immaterial... but they did. They believed police and military would be on their side and that the government would generally proceed as before sans input from liberals or anybody they disagreed with. There is copious amounts of evidence to support this, including posts made on this forum, Parler, Twitter, and Facebook. The dude here who was (is?) always begging for a civil war was constantly saying that the military and police would be on Trump’s side. That’s a common belief in the Q-sphere and among Trump supporters. In videos of the coup, you can hear them screaming at police that they are supposed to be on the same side.

Was that expectation - that the military and courts would help them maintain an illegitimate presidency - delusional? Sure. But these are by and large the same people who believe that there’s an ongoing child sex ring in the nonexistent basement of Comet Pizza. That didn’t make the shooting there any less of a shooting.

These people are so terrible at accepting bad facts that they still think the election was stolen based on absolutely no concrete evidence. They thought the courts were going to overturn the election until... yesterday, in some cases. If the entire premise of their coup is delusional, how is it relevant that their plan going forward was also delusional? It’s not relevant at all.

What matters is their intent and their actions. Both of which were obvious. Which is why I fully endorse the both of you to go door to door in the suburbs and tell everybody you meet that every good Trump loving Republican believes this event is being “overcharged” and it wasn’t really as bad as what they all saw with their own eyes and heard with their own ears.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Neither of these makes a rational argument that this was not a coup. You’re both relying on the same failed logic: that because the coup was delusional and doomed to fail, it couldn’t have been a coup.

If we had to wait for a well-planned or successful coup to call a thing a coup, that’d be pretty ****ing stupid. The intent to defy the established process for the transfer of power and acts in furtherance of that intent are what matter.

The bottom line re: their intent is that they were there to force Mike Pence or congress to overturn the results of the election, ignore the established process for transfer of power, and maintain Donald Trump as the unelected “president.” They came prepared, they fought the police, they broke in they acted in furtherance of that intent.

That’s a coup by any sensible definition of the word. Case closed.

Whether they had a plan to maintain power going forward is immaterial... but they did. They believed police and military would be on their side and that the government would generally proceed as before sans input from liberals or anybody they disagreed with. There is copious amounts of evidence to support this, including posts made on this forum, Parler, Twitter, and Facebook. The dude here who was (is?) always begging for a civil war was constantly saying that the military and police would be on Trump’s side. That’s a common belief in the Q-sphere and among Trump supporters. In videos of the coup, you can hear them screaming at police that they are supposed to be on the same side.

Was that expectation - that the military and courts would help them maintain an illegitimate presidency - delusional? Sure. But these are by and large the same people who believe that there’s an ongoing child sex ring in the nonexistent basement of Comet Pizza. That didn’t make the shooting there any less of a shooting.

These people are so terrible at accepting bad facts that they still think the election was stolen based on absolutely no concrete evidence. They thought the courts were going to overturn the election until... yesterday, in some cases. If the entire premise of their coup is delusional, how is it relevant that their plan going forward was also delusional? It’s not relevant at all.

What matters is their intent and their actions. Both of which were obvious. Which is why I fully endorse the both of you to go door to door in the suburbs and tell everybody you meet that every good Trump loving Republican believes this event is being “overcharged” and it wasn’t really as bad as what they all saw with their own eyes and heard with their own ears.
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Why doesn’t anybody refer to those dumbasses who planned to kidnap Whitmer and take over the state house or Governor mansion or whatever call that a coup then ... “counselor”.

It’s purposely loaded language used to illicit a response.
 
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