USC and UCLA to leave Pac 12 for Big Ten

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BUBear said:
With the BIG 10, BIG XII and the SEC looking to expand it shouldn't be too hard to find 8 teams willing to jump.
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I would actually like to see Clemson, FSU, Pitt and Miami join the Big 12. It would some traditional rivalries going bring back Backyard Brawl full time, and would keep it from being just 2 super conferences . The big remaining 4-6 would go their separate ways to the SEC and B1G UNC, UVA, NC State, Virginia Tech. TBH UNC and UVA make more sense in the B1G and NC State and Virginia Tech would fit better in the SEC. Maybe throw Syracuse to the B1G and… I can’t believe I’m saying this..Duke to the Big 12.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I would actually like to see Clemson, FSU, Pitt and Miami join the Big 12. It would some traditional rivalries going bring back Backyard Brawl full time, and would keep it from being just 2 super conferences . The big remaining 4-6 would go their separate ways to the SEC and B1G UNC, UVA, NC State, Virginia Tech. TBH UNC and UVA make more sense in the B1G and NC State and Virginia Tech would fit better in the SEC. Maybe throw Syracuse to the B1G and… I can’t believe I’m saying this..Duke to the Big 12.
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University of Arizona has a BOR meeting scheduled for tomorrow. It will be interesting to see if realignment is on the schedule. Arizona, Duke (and maybe SDSU) joining the BIG XII would make a very interesting basketball conference.
 
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BUBear said:
University of Arizona has a BOR meeting scheduled for tomorrow. It will be interesting to see if realignment is on the schedule. Arizona, Duke (and maybe SDSU) joining the BIG XII would make a very interesting basketball conference.
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It would be interesting, but it would suck. I don’t think Duke and Arizona should ever play a conference game, but I don’t think USC and Michigan should either. I guess we’ll see the next few years.
 
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LouderVol said:
I think the way the ACC is going to collapse is going to be mass withdrawal. Get enough of the big schools to leave so that it dissolves the ACC. Otherwise I think there GOR is pretty strong and will last a challenge or two.
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By its wording - per several reports - the GOR isn’t an agreement that a majority vote ends; it would take all 14 teams voting in agreement to end the conference and the GOR for either to dissolve.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I think the PAC 10? 12? or whatever is dead. I think the Big 12 can survive and the ACC might for another year or 2 until someone puts together the legal team that finds the hole in the GOR. I’m hoping for 3 Conferences instead of just the SEC and B1G.
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If it were that easy to find a hole in the GOR, though, UNC and UVA would have already been invited elsewhere, like, yesterday.
 
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TrueOrange said:
If it were that easy to find a hole in the GOR, though, UNC and UVA would have already been invited elsewhere, like, yesterday.
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I don’t think it’s easy at all . I think it’s going to take a couple of years before someone really gets serious about challenging the GOR, or until ACC teams decide that $35 million isn’t cutting it compared to the other conferences.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
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Feels like a statement intentionally written backwards with some missing context. I think it should have said:
"As a result of B1G's media deal announcement, SEC desires Texas and Oklahoma to be added early; forces Big12 conference into early negotiations for smaller payouts to remain in good graces with broadcasting overlords".
 
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SalVolinus said:
Feels like a statement intentionally written backwards with some missing context. I think it should have said:
"As a result of B1G's media deal announcement, SEC desires Texas and Oklahoma to be added early; forces Big12 conference into early negotiations for smaller payouts to remain in good graces with broadcasting overlords".
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This is the key. Guaranteed there is already a canned schedule and new conference structuring ready for release if they somehow join next season.
 
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BUBear said:
BIG XII taking one of the PAC's few remaining prize possessions...PAC After Dark??? Somebody please break the news gently to Jon Wilner.

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Lmao. Twice as few as Tennessee game did. BYU propped it up with their nationwide Mormon following but the big xii is one more season from losing Texas and Oklahoma their only two national brands with large fan bases and actual historical football tradition. The Iowa states, baylors, Kansas’s, and directional Floridas of the world aren’t going to save that midmajor conference.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lmao. Twice as few as Tennessee game did. BYU propped it up with their nationwide Mormon following but the big xii is one more season from losing Texas and Oklahoma their only two national brands with large fan bases and actual historical football tradition. The Iowa states, baylors, Kansas’s, and directional Floridas of the world aren’t going to save that midmajor conference.
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The point is that BYU and Baylor are drawing the ratings to that time slot that ESPN considers valuable. The ratings that USC, UCLA, Utah and Washington couldn't attract. You ain't that bright though so I'm sure you don't understand.
 
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BUBear said:
The point is that BYU and Baylor are drawing the ratings to that time slot that ESPN considers valuable. The ratings that USC, UCLA, Utah and Washington couldn't attract. You ain't that bright though so I'm sure you don't understand.
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That incredibly valuable 10PM Eastern Time slot???

A game that WAS good but a fluke. There just aren't enough eyeballs that watch football routinely out there and I'm sure ESPN knows the Baylor/BYU numbers are not at all the norm for that timeslot.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
That incredibly valuable 10PM Eastern Time slot???

A game that WAS good but a fluke. There just aren't enough eyeballs that watch football routinely out there and I'm sure ESPN knows the Baylor/BYU numbers are not at all the norm for that timeslot.
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I'm sure that ESPN will check the numbers for last seasons BIG XII Championship Game and Sugar Bowl and like what they see. The PAC Championship Game rated sixth just behind the AAC. 👍

Kinda interesting that the two teams that played for that AAC Championship will be members of the BIG XII next season.
 
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BUBear said:
I'm sure that ESPN will check the numbers for last seasons BIG XII Championship Game and Sugar Bowl and like what they see. The PAC Championship Game rated sixth just behind the AAC. 👍

Kinda interesting that the two teams that played for that AAC Championship will be members of the BIG XII next season.
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There’s a reason the big xii doesn’t play it’s title game on the normal Saturday title game day. They know they can’t go up against the real conferences. When Texas and Oklahoma leave next year, there won’t even be a team that has more than 50k fans come to a game except BYU sometimes
 
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BUBear said:
I'm sure that ESPN will check the numbers for last seasons BIG XII Championship Game and Sugar Bowl and like what they see. The PAC Championship Game rated sixth just behind the AAC. 👍

Kinda interesting that the two teams that played for that AAC Championship will be members of the BIG XII next season.
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The B12 Championship Game was at what..... Noon Eastern? The P12 Championship was a 9PM Eastern game.

You were crowing about "big numbers" for a late night game and the slot being "valuable."

The numbers aren't big and the late night slot isn't valuable.
 
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SayUWantAreVOLution said:
The B12 Championship Game was at what..... Noon Eastern? The P12 Championship was a 9PM Eastern game.

You were crowing about "big numbers" for a late night game and the slot being "valuable."

The numbers aren't big and the late night slot isn't valuable.
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ESPN and Fox have opened up negotiations with the BIG XII a year and a half early. Fox declined to bid on the PAC. I guess we'll see where the chips fall.
 
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BUBear said:
ESPN and Fox have opened up negotiations with the BIG XII a year and a half early. Fox declined to bid on the PAC. I guess we'll see where the chips fall.
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Lol They didn’t “open negotiations early” because they are begging for the B12, the SEC told them to get Texas and Oklahoma to us sooner. Real conferences dictate to the lessers what to do
 
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BUBear said:
ESPN and Fox have opened up negotiations with the BIG XII a year and a half early. Fox declined to bid on the PAC. I guess we'll see where the chips fall.
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Actually, the B12 got rejected in May 2020 when they wanted to open up talks and it was only after TX and OU bailed that negotiations were accepted.

Neither the B12 nor P12 are in a good position for a good TV deal after having their larger audience programs poached.

Best of luck but the TV revenue gap will continue to grow between the SEC and B1G and....... everyone else.
 
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Rickyvol77 said:
Lol They didn’t “open negotiations early” because they are begging for the B12, the SEC told them to get Texas and Oklahoma to us sooner. Real conferences dictate to the lessers what to do
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That makes perfectly good business sense. ESPN will bid against itself for two properties it already owns. 😂😂🤣
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
It would be interesting, but it would suck. I don’t think Duke and Arizona should ever play a conference game, but I don’t think USC and Michigan should either. I guess we’ll see the next few years.
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The Carolina Panthers and Arizona Cardinals play next month.

It's headed in that direction. It'll just take a few years to completely sort itself out. It's going to be NFL Lite whether we like it or not.
 
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