USC and UCLA to leave Pac 12 for Big Ten

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LouderVol said:
Based on the 2019 viewership, oregon had well over 2 million average views, usc and ucla were barely over 1.
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I think that’s definitely going to change now that USC has made a re-commitment to football . I think when you have a marquee name like a USC playing at Michigan, Ohio State and other huge Big 10 schools the viewership will be higher. USC is a blue blood and UCLA has a massive alumni base.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I think that’s definitely going to change now that USC has made a re-commitment to football . I think when you have a marquee name like a USC playing at Michigan, Ohio State and other huge Big 10 schools the viewership will be higher. USC is a blue blood and UCLA has a massive alumni base.
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USC has a great football tradition and has had periods and runs of great success and they are a name brand. They have been down since 2010 but they will be back no doubt about it.
 
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GroverCleveland said:
Now this is interesting. Does Colorado decide to go back to the Big12 and Utah, with BYU already there, decide to join?
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I don't see what the Big 12 offers to the remaining Pac schools. The brands are so much better in the Pac, even without USC and UCLA. Plus, while it needs an overhaul, the Pac has a network.
 
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RDU VOL#14 said:
I think that’s definitely going to change now that USC has made a re-commitment to football . I think when you have a marquee name like a USC playing at Michigan, Ohio State and other huge Big 10 schools the viewership will be higher. USC is a blue blood and UCLA has a massive alumni base.
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I think oregon is also a marquee name. They would draw a lot more eyes in big 10 than they do in the PAC 12 as well.
 
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Just another day of poaching. It’ll probably culminate with super conferences. So far it looks like the Big 10 and SEC are the super conferences. I have no idea which P5 conference will get left in the dust.
 
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sunnyvol79 said:
By 2030 or sooner sadly I can see myself no longer watching college football. These greedy uber rich fools have killed it.
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In spite of UT having its most exciting offense in years, and a 5* kid at QB for 3-4 seasons, you’re still checking out on CFB?
 
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LouderVol said:
I think oregon is also a marquee name. They would draw a lot more eyes in big 10 than they do in the PAC 12 as well.
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I think Oregon is a big name and it’s been the better program for the last 10-12 years. I think when USC is very good, it belongs in the conversation with a Bama, Notre Dame, Ohio State, Michigan, Oklahoma as far historical significance.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
In spite of UT having its most exciting offense in years, and a 5* kid at QB for 3-4 seasons, you’re still checking out on CFB?
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Not this year and probaly not in the next few years and it would be very hard to quit watching UT football since I’ve been watching since 1982 when I was just 6. But if this gets any more crazy and they completely eliminate all the conferences and traditions and rivalries I might just step away at some point.
 
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If this happens, the ACC and Pac need to just merge. If I was the ACC, it's either **** or get off the pot time for Notre Dame. If the ACC could get Notre Dame games in Cali with Cal and Stanford, maybe that sways them.

Without ND, there's 24 teams. If ND decides to jump in, either Wake or Washington St gets left.

But you have to make a move. Biding your time until the contract runs out is a death sentence. Adding Big 12 or AAC teams won't cut it.
 
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I predict that we’ll soon see the SEC split in 2 divisions, the southeast and the southwest and the Big10 will be the northeast and northwest and then you’ll have everyone else who gets left behind. The division winners will make a playoff along with a couple of wild cards, just like the NFL.
We might as well prepare ourselves for some new rivalries because it’s coming and a lot of the old ones will be history.
GBO!!
 
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Nothing says Snowy, cold, gloomy, November football like the Big 10. Cool to see UCLA playing Northwestern in a blizzard and USC doing the same thing in Ann Arbor.

And I remember thinking it geographically weird when Missouri ended up in the SEC east. Geography almost doesn't matter anymore.
 
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ptcarter said:
Nothing says Snowy, cold, gloomy, November football like the Big 10. Cool to see UCLA playing Northwestern in a blizzard and USC doing the same thing in Ann Arbor.

And I remember thinking it geographically weird when Missouri ended up in the SEC east. Geography almost doesn't matter anymore.
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In this age of air travel, it is logical though that it shouldn't matter as much. When you look back to when the conferences were originally founded, the justification for them at the time was that you only had to play teams in your geographical area. Today it is more about about TV money.

In a few more years, the name "Southeastern Conference" will be something of a relic, like how "Southwest Airlines" or "Northwest Airlines" were initially named that because those were the geographical areas they served before they expanded.
 
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ptcarter said:
Nothing says Snowy, cold, gloomy, November football like the Big 10. Cool to see UCLA playing Northwestern in a blizzard and USC doing the same thing in Ann Arbor.

And I remember thinking it geographically weird when Missouri ended up in the SEC east. Geography almost doesn't matter anymore.
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Remember the good ol days when it meant something to SEC fans to win an SEC title or the bragging rights UCLA fans had after winning a PAC title.
Back when we thought it was fun to make the sugar, cotton or peach bowl.
When you could hold your head high in the off-season and argue that your #4 ranked team was just as good and “could’ve beaten the national champion!”
Now playoff mentality, super conference arm races and analytics have taken over and imo it’s taken a lot of fun out of college football.
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Get off my lawn!
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GBO!!
 
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UTwild82 said:
If this happens, the ACC and Pac need to just merge. If I was the ACC, it's either **** or get off the pot time for Notre Dame. If the ACC could get Notre Dame games in Cali with Cal and Stanford, maybe that sways them.

Without ND, there's 24 teams. If ND decides to jump in, either Wake or Washington St gets left.

But you have to make a move. Biding your time until the contract runs out is a death sentence. Adding Big 12 or AAC teams won't cut it.
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Except any expansion automatically triggers/leads to renegotiating of the ACC’s binding 14 yr media rights deal. Meaning the bigger market / media / value schools (UNC, UVA, Clemson, FSU, etc) would immediately be free to try to vamoose the new arrangement and try to sell themselves to the Big 10 or SEC.
 
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cobbwebb0710 said:
I predict that we’ll soon see the SEC split in 2 divisions, the southeast and the southwest and the Big10 will be the northeast and northwest and then you’ll have everyone else who gets left behind. The division winners will make a playoff along with a couple of wild cards, just like the NFL.
We might as well prepare ourselves for some new rivalries because it’s coming and a lot of the old ones will be history.
GBO!!
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Yep your right we are headed that way, two big conferences like the AFC and NFC
 
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TrueOrange said:
Except any expansion automatically triggers/leads to renegotiating of the ACC’s binding 14 yr media rights deal. Meaning the bigger market / media / value schools (UNC, UVA, Clemson, FSU, etc) would immediately be free to try to vamoose the new arrangement and try to sell themselves to the Big 10 or SEC.
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It wouldn’t surprise me at all if Clemson and FSU have already put out feelers to the SEC.

It’s sad that there isn’t some larger governing body of the P5 schools that could get together and establish the new landscape for big school sports, especially in regards to realignment, NIL, broadcast rights. The fact that this doesn’t exist nor even contemplated shows why we are in the situation we are now. Feel bad that a lot of schools and future athletes will likely get the shaft.
 
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Like the fans of Kiss had to accept the new Kiss without Peter and Ace in the 80’s and without makeup it appears us college football fans will have to accept this new restructured abomination of the sport we have grown up loving.
 
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